Blakovitch- cesclaveria, on 04/19/2008, -31/+919is this some kind of mac convention? did apple gave away macs on cereal boxes or what?
- LukeBeaumont, on 04/19/2008, -76/+7Clearly it was a photoshoot.
- Tiak, on 04/19/2008, -4/+68Unlikely... The few Dells and an Acer would be noticeable in one. It's a classroom, so most likely the school provided macs... A few just preferred other laptops.
- AROZ, on 04/19/2008, -2/+8Evidently, ONE person did.
- AROZ, on 04/19/2008, -0/+3Nevermind, there are a few macless individuals.
- AROZ, on 04/19/2008, -2/+8Evidently, ONE person did.
- allengeer, on 04/19/2008, -3/+6angles are all wrong. so are the shadows.
- DubiousDrewski, on 04/19/2008, -7/+1How..? I don't see a single place where the angles and shadows are "all wrong". They are using desks, if case you didn't see that.
- abhiroop, on 04/20/2008, -1/+3SARCASM u fool!
- DubiousDrewski, on 04/19/2008, -7/+1How..? I don't see a single place where the angles and shadows are "all wrong". They are using desks, if case you didn't see that.
- BlackCow, on 04/20/2008, -1/+2All the computers, all look the same with those white apples, kind of seems like 1985.
- Tiak, on 04/19/2008, -4/+68Unlikely... The few Dells and an Acer would be noticeable in one. It's a classroom, so most likely the school provided macs... A few just preferred other laptops.
- swimmer88, on 04/19/2008, -15/+166schools are beginning to include a laptop in the price of tuition and give every student one. I've only heard of this being done with mac's.
- notoneofus, on 04/19/2008, -5/+42Most schools I've seen doing this give you a choice between two similarly equipped computers: Mac or PC.
- Xorsist, on 04/19/2008, -0/+41yea my old school gave thinkpads t60p's to computer/engineer majors and macbook pros to design/architect majors
- nitramlliw, on 04/19/2008, -0/+10wake forest gives (in the sense that you have to pay for it) Thinkpads.
- petard, on 04/19/2008, -10/+4macs to architects? ever heard of CAD? Works better on PC
- dudeguy1234, on 04/19/2008, -24/+7petard: ever heard of bootcamp? Everything works better on Mac.
- Syphon8, on 04/19/2008, -12/+5dudeguy: Ever heard of GRUB? The only thing that needs *****, overpriced, propriety hardware is your precious Mac OS. And even that's being eroded away.
- Psythik, on 04/19/2008, -14/+14So why would anyone choose the Mac when the PC is cheaper?
- danomagnum, on 04/19/2008, -28/+14Why would anyone choose the Mac when they suck would be a better question.
- ICSU, on 04/19/2008, -4/+28personality issues
- AlgnPelotudo, on 04/19/2008, -6/+36to satisfy the tneed to look trendy.
- Syphon8, on 04/19/2008, -5/+33Many people don't know how to use a computer, and all also very easy to sway with advertising. Apple has based there entire target demographic on people who can't turn their computers on.
- BlueSkyfish, on 04/19/2008, -3/+4Because you pay the same tuition anyway.
- poxonyou, on 04/20/2008, -0/+2I think it works out the same price no matter what the student chooses. I don't think this is the case with this school though. Too many Macs, so I'm guessing their only choice was a MacBook.
That said. I bought a 13" VAIO last year for the portability and because it had a decent nVideo card...and Vista. I have actually made little to no use of the card and unistalled Vista for XP. I wish I could go back and buy a MacBook. I think OS X is better than XP or Vista, and I don't play many games anymore aside from ROMs. Maybe others are feeling that way too. Unimpressed by Vista and feeling as if XP is too old. OS X may be a bit more interesting to them. If you look at the people in the pic, it hardly looks like the type of people trying to stay on top of trends.
- Xorsist, on 04/19/2008, -0/+41yea my old school gave thinkpads t60p's to computer/engineer majors and macbook pros to design/architect majors
- Botanicus, on 04/19/2008, -29/+65I've been to colleges that give away / include a standard PC (IBM or Dell typically) in the tuition cost, the college I graduated from however chose to keep a desktop in each dorm room. as an IT student I'd hate to be given a mac.... They dont work how I want them to unless I put windows or Linux on them....
- firstpost, on 04/19/2008, -82/+39Then you're doing something wrong
- magic6435, on 04/19/2008, -7/+54Yea i must really be doing something wrong because for the life of me i cant seem to get 3DStudio max or Solid works installed..................Sometimes i really do think mac users must be retarded. Photoshop is not the only freaking application people might need!
- melonhedd, on 04/19/2008, -3/+37The creed of Apple and Linux: Blame the user.
- rauz, on 04/19/2008, -14/+9@magic6435: Intel Macs can run 3DStudio Max and Solid just fine so obviously you're doing something wrong.
- petard, on 04/19/2008, -2/+13@rauz
"unless I put windows or Linux on them...." - magic6435, on 04/19/2008, -5/+20Keep drinking your own koolaid. not everyone wants to dual boot. It is very misleading to run around saying "Just get a mac you can run 3dstudio" because i also need to purchase a new version of windows install and dual boot the system and at that point i am no longer using a mac im using a bloody windows pc.
Hey guess what dude i know you want a boat but just get a civic it works both ways.
Ps. you first need to build a boat around the car.
- illustrick, on 04/19/2008, -36/+88no, don't assume he is doing something wrong, i am a computer engineer and i ***** HATE MACS. linux/windows ftw
- cypherz, on 04/19/2008, -55/+22You're an computer engineer and you hate Macs? OS X in UNIX-based and has all the open-source stuff available that Linux has... How can you hate it? I'm always surprised when Linux users say they HATE Macs. I can understand *preferring* LInux etc, but why such strong feeling? Why do you hate them?
- rpgmaker, on 04/19/2008, -15/+16Because we do?
- JEWestbrookJR, on 04/19/2008, -22/+27@cypherz
I'm in IT and LOVE mac. I don't understand Mac hating IT guys for the same reason that you do. If they like Linux/Unix it seems logical that they would like Mac too. I'm assuming they just know nothing about Macs and are scared of what confuses them.
I actually hated Mac until I got into IT. Now it is my OS of choice. All of my Microsoft/CompTIA based courses just exposed to me how week windows really is and how much more reliable anything UNIX based is. - hellotyler, on 04/19/2008, -20/+4Obviously you are an idiot illustrick, as you can run any linux or pc programs all from the mac os with VMWare fusion... Why limit yourself to the programs from just one OS ?
- bigbadgoat, on 04/19/2008, -3/+16I'm a computer engineer and I own a macbook as my main machine.
At the same time, OS X is no better than any other OS, it's just different. - omgwhereami, on 04/19/2008, -11/+4I don't hate the OS. I just hate Apple and their stupid commercials. Which translates into me hating all Apple products they try and sell me when I could just go out and buy/build a machine for less money that can do the same things for free. Another huge point is that photoshop is not a reason to buy a computer. I'm not a photoshop fanatic anyways. And we all know that 90% of the people that use photoshop suck at it and that GIMP has all of the 20 or less features they've ever used and ever will use.
- terencec, on 04/19/2008, -4/+1I am a casual user and I hate macs as well... I never really liked the interface and the lack of visible extensions.
- mediaphile, on 04/20/2008, -0/+6Lack of visible extensions?
- scoffey, on 04/19/2008, -1/+3cue mac vs. pc vs. linux argument
- bxblox, on 04/19/2008, -5/+6Mac+ Dual Boot = stop arguing about it.
- firstpost, on 04/19/2008, -82/+39Then you're doing something wrong
- MacSuxWindozSux, on 04/19/2008, -13/+7I've heard of this being done with IBM laptops, but that was before the Chinese sellout. I've never seen anyone buy a Lenovo.
- skribble, on 04/19/2008, -4/+28Lenovo has built Think Pads for years and years, long before IBM "sold" their PC business to Lenovo. And FWIW The Lenovo ThinkPads are still far and away the most reliable Windows LapTops I've seen and used (and I've see used lot's). While there are plenty of opportunities to slam China for whatever reason, this probably isn't the best example of China bashing.
- JEWestbrookJR, on 04/19/2008, -4/+11seems like he'll bash anything. macsuxwindozsuxchinasux
- AlgnPelotudo, on 04/19/2008, -1/+4pentex sux
bonegnawers sux
- MacSuxWindozSux, on 04/20/2008, -1/+1Wasn't bashing anything. I merely meant that I haven't seen Lenovo brand Laptops in that situation. I was only making a distinction between the brands. None of the stores where I live sell Lenovo brand computers.
And I wasn't bashing the Chinese. IBM sold their business to Lenovo. That's all I stated.
You guys are assholes.- JEWestbrookJR, on 04/21/2008, -0/+1Diggerssux
- skribble, on 04/19/2008, -4/+28Lenovo has built Think Pads for years and years, long before IBM "sold" their PC business to Lenovo. And FWIW The Lenovo ThinkPads are still far and away the most reliable Windows LapTops I've seen and used (and I've see used lot's). While there are plenty of opportunities to slam China for whatever reason, this probably isn't the best example of China bashing.
- jagtar, on 04/19/2008, -6/+14i wish my university gave a laptop as part of the £3000 ($6k) a year admissions price!
- fenixxx, on 04/19/2008, -0/+58They just raise the price of tuition and then say, free laptop!
- 0tis, on 04/19/2008, -1/+2It'd be nice if they could just realise that spending £300 on a laptop (and I'm sure they could get cheap deals) was worth it considering the other £2770 they get out of it. Stingy gits.
- illustrick, on 04/19/2008, -2/+516k a year aint *****, try 30k
- whoaohh, on 04/19/2008, -0/+18and that doesn't even include room and board
- makkaveli19, on 04/19/2008, -1/+2subsidized education FTW!
- CrushThemTorg, on 04/19/2008, -1/+5Oh God! $6,000 a year? Let's cry more.
- swimmer88, on 04/19/2008, -0/+1i think my meal plan + room and board was $6k alone
- brettmurf, on 04/19/2008, -1/+7No ***** illustrick. I get double jagtar's yearly tuition in scholarships and it doesn't even make a ***** dent in college costs. A lot of schools in the states are expensive unless you somehow manage a full ride.
- nitramlliw, on 04/19/2008, -1/+2esp. for out of state schools. i got into GaTech and RIT, and nixing the scholarships from both, RIT was 3x the cost. with scholarships, the playing field is even more tilted towards GaTech. it's ridiculous.
- db0255, on 04/19/2008, -4/+930K ain't *****. Try 40K and no free laptop.
Go duke!!!- wafflez, on 04/19/2008, -1/+4In b4 USC
- klipseracer, on 04/19/2008, -2/+1Yeah, for an education you probably won't use, LOOOL!
- Mapekz, on 04/19/2008, -4/+240k here not including the cost of a dining plan or anything like that (not that the food is any good).
Go Columbia and New York City in general!!! Can't wait to graduate next month! - Nerfdude, on 04/19/2008, -2/+5640k ain't *****. try a million billion dollars and they stole the laptop i already had
my alma mater is the most expensive, therefore i win- GiggleStick, on 04/20/2008, -1/+3Mine raped my mom. :(
- bigbadgoat, on 04/19/2008, -4/+3I go to one of the top 10 Engineering schools in Canada, My tuition for two semesters? $2500.
- mrtibbs309, on 04/19/2008, -2/+12Canada doesn't count.
- bigbadgoat, on 04/19/2008, -1/+1Why not?
- klipseracer, on 04/19/2008, -2/+4because you didn't pay a stupidly ridiculous amount of money to go there. College does NOT make you smarter. It just proves you were that smart already.
- jmeskimen, on 04/19/2008, -0/+6It doesn't count because it's Canada... go on strike if that offends you.
- swimmer88, on 04/19/2008, -0/+2isn't education heavily subsidized in canada?
- mediaphile, on 04/20/2008, -0/+1@klipseracer
College might not make one smarter, but it does make one more knowledgeable and skilled. - bigbadgoat, on 04/20/2008, -0/+1where did I say anything about university making me smarter? And, yes education is subsidized, but not that heavily. Even if my university wasn't subsidized, my tuition would be less than $5000 a year.
- magic6435, on 04/20/2008, -0/+2Wait. theres more than one school in Canada?
- Nekiruhs, on 04/19/2008, -0/+3Thats lower than my old highschool tuition, and I got two scholarships!
- Freaknik, on 04/19/2008, -0/+26Your mom goes to college.
- AlgnPelotudo, on 04/19/2008, -2/+2well, i have free college. But i have to pay for studying materials, books and laptops.
- dudeguy1234, on 04/19/2008, -1/+36 k a year ?!?!?! JESUS YOU LUCKY BASTARD in the usa it can be over 50,000 for the best schools....
- klipseracer, on 04/19/2008, -1/+2which you'll probably get nothing from. except a lifelong debt.
- BlueSkyfish, on 04/19/2008, -0/+6Temple University Philadelphia = $24,000
Temple University Tokyo = $10,000
Using the Study Abroad program to spend two years in a country on the other side of the world where you have no friends, family, or understanding of the native language = Priceless
- svivian, on 04/19/2008, -7/+27Mac's what? Who is this "mac" person you speak of?
- lostarchitect, on 04/19/2008, -1/+6Sure, my school gave us all Macs in 1996, when I was a freshman.
- Syphon8, on 04/19/2008, -7/+2And when Apple made decent computers.
- lostarchitect, on 04/19/2008, -1/+2huh? that was os 8. it sucked. os 10 is so much better.
- Syphon8, on 04/19/2008, -7/+2And when Apple made decent computers.
- dukeochutney, on 04/19/2008, -24/+5so i can put MS Office on it.that seems logical....to bad there isnt an OS made by the same ppl who make Office.
- BlueSkyfish, on 04/19/2008, -0/+3Solaris?
- trogdorBURN, on 04/19/2008, -0/+5hahahahah, oh boy. if only my school did that. they take us for everything we have.
- triskele, on 04/19/2008, -0/+2Actually the only person I know who went to a college in which a laptop was included in the price was given a Thinkpad. This was almost 8 years ago though.
- mediaphile, on 04/20/2008, -1/+1So eight years ago one school gave away Thinkpads. Now schools give away MacBooks.
- earthceltic, on 04/19/2008, -1/+3northern michigan university gives out thinkpads to everyone but the graphics majors (and most of them hate theirs, the model is too slow for most graphic apps)
- chix0r, on 04/19/2008, -1/+3Not to mention they put way too much software on them. Adobe Photoshop, Illustrator, Indesign, Dreamweaver, and Flash on the cheapest Macbook model possible isn't a very good idea. I don't hate my macbook but I don't understand why we have them. Every program we use can be run on the cheaper thinkpad. We have to pay an extra 300$ a year for them as well.
- CrushThemTorg, on 04/19/2008, -0/+1You're incorrect insofar as I do that sort of thing all the time on the cheapest MacBook. It runs fine. Sure, I'll close Photoshop if InDesign or Illustrator get hungry, but otherwise it works perfectly.
- iliketokick, on 04/20/2008, -0/+1I have all of those on my Thinkpad. Sad times if you want to listen to music and design something at the same time.
- chix0r, on 04/19/2008, -1/+3Not to mention they put way too much software on them. Adobe Photoshop, Illustrator, Indesign, Dreamweaver, and Flash on the cheapest Macbook model possible isn't a very good idea. I don't hate my macbook but I don't understand why we have them. Every program we use can be run on the cheaper thinkpad. We have to pay an extra 300$ a year for them as well.
- sporad1c, on 04/20/2008, -0/+1http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=ma ...
Most informative mac site ever.
- notoneofus, on 04/19/2008, -5/+42Most schools I've seen doing this give you a choice between two similarly equipped computers: Mac or PC.
- InActionJackson, on 04/19/2008, -14/+213swimmer's probably rite, i know every student at Full Sail has to buy a macbook pro now, its adds an extra 3,000 to the tuition. i'm still trying to figure out how the most expensive computer company cornered the school market like this, you think they'd go for dells or something to make it more affordable.
- mattyk123, on 04/19/2008, -25/+9The thing is according to all colleges, macs are industry standard (for the creative industries anyway) so that's what they teach on.
Shame my college haven't upgraded theirs since the ***** 90's!- Nevarius, on 04/19/2008, -4/+9Used to be a standard for video editing etc but the gap has been filled for some time and i wouldn't say all colleges. The one i went too preferred macs only for video editing and the like. Everything else was either windows or UNIX/Linux. (back in the mid 90's)
- illustrick, on 04/19/2008, -0/+9same with mine( art institute) macs in the design sections and windows pcs everywhere else. even the web design building gets windows. only graphic/video get macs.
- JEWestbrookJR, on 04/19/2008, -8/+3that's dumb of them to force windows upon web designers. I design on both systems, but adobe suite just seems more streamlined on mac. Especially dreamweaver.
- magic6435, on 04/19/2008, -2/+11Dreamweaver ........ ROFL
- nitramlliw, on 04/19/2008, -1/+6haha... dreamweaver. hahaha. and your comments before said you were an IT person. hahaha.
- Light11, on 04/19/2008, -1/+3you can use any os to design websites, all you need is a text editor, ftp program, and, if you want it to look nicer, a graphics program
- Lanlost, on 04/19/2008, -0/+1Well technically Light11, you can use "ftp" in the command prompt in Windows, Linux and Mac. They all have a command line "ftp"
/ use it all the time to store single files on my homepage space for roadrunner.
- FoxOrian, on 04/19/2008, -1/+46Up here in the Northeast I usually see colleges urging a required Dell buy. I'm a Campus Rep for Apple for the Greater Boston area, so I design alot of the mailers and pamphlets for schools required purchases. We only have one or two schools up here that require Macs, and they're Art Institutes. Everywhere else suggests IBM or Dell. Boston University even suggests VAIO's. Schools that only offer PC or Mac's honestly irk me a little, because I like the students to have freedom of choice for their favorite platform.
- pixeldust, on 04/19/2008, -1/+18That also means double the support as well which needs to be factored in. Not to mention if a professor is using a program he doesn't have to worry about finding a mac and pc version and doesn't have to worry about the differences in the two. I run mixed mac/pc labs on campus and it does take extra work.
- warriorscot, on 04/19/2008, -1/+4Its not about choice but course software requirements you would be hard pressed to find allot of the leading engineering,science and mathematics suites for a mac system not to mention in house designed software which is usually for windows or Unix. Nothing stops a student buying a mac they would just have to find a way around it rather than it enabling them.
- mediaphile, on 04/20/2008, -1/+1Macs run Windows. Problem solved.
- EdwardsNH, on 04/19/2008, -18/+5"...I design alot of the mailers and pamphlets for schools required purchases."
Are you serious? You're designing stuff to be presented to schools, and you're using "alot"?! I learned that "alot" isn't a word in high school, so FYI, you might have more success if you stop using it. - ictharus, on 04/19/2008, -6/+3Edwards - "alot" is a word. It means to distribute.
But he is using it incorrectly, so I'll cut you some slack.- bronyraur777, on 04/19/2008, -1/+5"Alot" is not a word. Picture "a" parking "lot" full of cars, thats a lot of cars. The proper usage and spelling is "a lot".
- imikedaman, on 04/19/2008, -1/+13No, allot is spelled with two Ls.
- xprojects, on 04/19/2008, -2/+2Not true. I live in Boston and Berklee, as well as any arts school requires it, not just Ai. Why? Simple. SOFTWARE SUPPORT. YEah, believe it or not, there's a ton of software for the Mac that you can't get on PC, like Final Cut for video, Logic Audio for the MP&E kids, and any visual artist using a PC... well, heh. No comment.... but every advertising agency in the city (and we have some of the world's largest like Arnold and Digitas) uses MACS only. It's a no-brainer for these trade schools to require them when it's 90% that's what the kids will use in the real world.
- Lanlost, on 04/19/2008, -0/+1Funny, I wasn't going to comment on it but I was thinking the same thing as EdwardsNH.
I used to type alot back when I got on AOL in 1995. I had a friend who would bitch about it over and over and eventually I caved in and made a note of putting a space. When you have typed "a lot" for so long after having type "alot" previously it really sticks out and almost hurts to read. That's why people bitch about it. - manamizer, on 04/19/2008, -0/+1@xprojects
Digitas does NOT use macs exclusively. I work in the same building and I see them carrying thinkpads around all the time. Don't make things up to support your point.
- lostarchitect, on 04/19/2008, -13/+13There's a bunch of science/math software that's mac only, and I think they set up a deal with adobe for deeply discounted creative software.
- Spuy767, on 04/19/2008, -5/+22It's not Mac only, it's Unix only. Developers just throw a good looking front end on a Command Line app and you think it's mac only.
- lostarchitect, on 04/19/2008, -1/+2good point. the GUI is mac only.
- clockb0x, on 04/19/2008, -2/+15Could you give some examples of math/science software that's Mac only? I just graduated last year as a Computer Engineer and everything I've ever used is either Windows or Linux.
- queenstarsha, on 04/20/2008, -1/+1in the labs i've worked in, macs were frowned upon as too incompatible (you can't even connect them to the projector to give a powerpoint presentation without buying and keeping track of some extra cable) and closed-source. the people who cared more about looks than function still used 'em. but they were always whining about their beta symbols getting ***** up when they opened files created on real computers.
- Spuy767, on 04/20/2008, -1/+2Most nonsensical comment ever. You're mad because you'd have to get a DVI->VGA adapter? How much are those? ***** $0.49? Closed source? Windows is the definition of closed source. Mas OS X has a number of OSS components. And get this, if you make a change to one of them, and it's accepted by the development community. . . it actually ends up in the operating system. Try that with windows. Hmmm, what else, oh yeah, my mac pro sits under a desk, it's rarely ever seen by anyone, but I'll tell you what it does do, it has 2 quad core xeons and 8 ***** gigs of ram. And BTW, it's running server 2003 this very second, so you can shut the ***** up about design over function.
/rant
- Spuy767, on 04/20/2008, -1/+2Most nonsensical comment ever. You're mad because you'd have to get a DVI->VGA adapter? How much are those? ***** $0.49? Closed source? Windows is the definition of closed source. Mas OS X has a number of OSS components. And get this, if you make a change to one of them, and it's accepted by the development community. . . it actually ends up in the operating system. Try that with windows. Hmmm, what else, oh yeah, my mac pro sits under a desk, it's rarely ever seen by anyone, but I'll tell you what it does do, it has 2 quad core xeons and 8 ***** gigs of ram. And BTW, it's running server 2003 this very second, so you can shut the ***** up about design over function.
- Spuy767, on 04/19/2008, -5/+22It's not Mac only, it's Unix only. Developers just throw a good looking front end on a Command Line app and you think it's mac only.
- Nickdotnet, on 04/19/2008, -5/+9Apple has made the most strides in building relationships with education too. Not saying that you can't get that with PC's, but Apple has entire branches dedicated completely to education - normally your compromise on PC is getting some kind of small business deal. Lets face it - PC's cornered the business market and Apple's claiming the education market
- SpeedSteamBoat, on 04/19/2008, -0/+5I don't think this is accurate. Every high school I ever visited (including my own) always had computer labs loaded with Dells. The same is true for my university. The library and computer labs are packed with Dells and sometimes a handful of Macs. In fact, the only dedicated Mac labs I know of are there for the design majors.
- sephiroth965, on 04/20/2008, -0/+1My high school only uses macs. They spend a ridiculous portion of the budget on computers every year too.
- bastawhiz, on 04/19/2008, -1/+3A local college near me (Wilkes) switched all of their public computers to Mac. Guess what: at any given time, they're all running XP with Parallels.
- MtheoryX, on 04/19/2008, -0/+1The university I attend and work for has many labs consisting entirely of dual booting iMacs, and those labs are not specific to design work.
Additionally, a surprisingly large percentage of the IT folks use Macs as their primary machines.- Nickdotnet, on 04/20/2008, -1/+1True. As an IT Technician for a school district, our entire district has switched to Apple for a few reasons - they have good bulk pricing - way better than student prices (Which by the way, PC companies don't typically even have student discounts), almost every major school district in CA is in negotiations with Apple, the battery life is FAR better than PC laptops, and my favorite being theSysadmin, they are SOOOOO easy to administer via ARD - I can patch, wipe, fix, reinstall and lockdown every one of them from 30 miles away - ALL AT ONCE!
Don't get my wrong, I still use mainly a PC at work because most of the school employees do, but when I go home - I hop on my MBP..
- Nickdotnet, on 04/20/2008, -1/+1True. As an IT Technician for a school district, our entire district has switched to Apple for a few reasons - they have good bulk pricing - way better than student prices (Which by the way, PC companies don't typically even have student discounts), almost every major school district in CA is in negotiations with Apple, the battery life is FAR better than PC laptops, and my favorite being theSysadmin, they are SOOOOO easy to administer via ARD - I can patch, wipe, fix, reinstall and lockdown every one of them from 30 miles away - ALL AT ONCE!
- digitalarcanum, on 04/19/2008, -0/+1I don't think that's true. hands out discounts like hot cakes. they only way you'll get a discount via apple is if you're a student.
- SpeedSteamBoat, on 04/19/2008, -0/+5I don't think this is accurate. Every high school I ever visited (including my own) always had computer labs loaded with Dells. The same is true for my university. The library and computer labs are packed with Dells and sometimes a handful of Macs. In fact, the only dedicated Mac labs I know of are there for the design majors.
- asurroca, on 04/19/2008, -4/+7That's just one of the many reasons I'm glad I'm at UCF instead of Full Sail... it's too bad 99% of those Full Sail kids are going to be working at Starbucks when they graduate, and the other 1% are going to become Full Sail teachers.
- redslash, on 04/19/2008, -4/+1True that. UCF gave me a free PC when I got on campus... thankfully not a Mac. My roommate has one and hates it.
- killaCam921, on 04/19/2008, -0/+1Full Sail doesnt give away computers - they let you borrow them, then give you the option of purchasing them at a discounted (used) price at the end of your program. Full Sail is a great school......IF - you are intelligent before you attend. If you are an idiot prior to enrolling, good chances are you will be even less intelligent after completing the program.
- Bamont, on 04/19/2008, -1/+1Working at Starbucks? I work for a gaming company and *I* graduated from Full Sail. Everyone in my class has an entry-level or better job. Everyone I know who graduated also has a job working in their field. However, the people that went to UCF that I know can't find work and ended up moving back home.
- killaCam921, on 04/20/2008, -1/+1UFC is probably the worst college to attend in Florida. Think of all the other choices you have and you choose UFC lol....and - I went to Full Sail and I own three companies, have been worked on two grammy nominated projects, and I was the lead sound designer on the 07' Audio book of the year (nominated for 6 awards in 08') - sit me in front of pro tools or a console or a MAC for that matter and I guarantee that I am more efficient than 95% of the students who attended UFC - FOR ANY MAJOR - Thanks for letting me post that. I love DIGG!
- redslash, on 04/21/2008, -0/+1Hmm. Interesting, killaCam. Googling your real name (given on Digg) found only your jobster profile and your digg profile (plus a couple unrelated things, like a cemetery listing, etc.) I don't want to call you a liar, but...
- killaCam921, on 04/20/2008, -1/+1UFC is probably the worst college to attend in Florida. Think of all the other choices you have and you choose UFC lol....and - I went to Full Sail and I own three companies, have been worked on two grammy nominated projects, and I was the lead sound designer on the 07' Audio book of the year (nominated for 6 awards in 08') - sit me in front of pro tools or a console or a MAC for that matter and I guarantee that I am more efficient than 95% of the students who attended UFC - FOR ANY MAJOR - Thanks for letting me post that. I love DIGG!
- digitalarcanum, on 04/19/2008, -0/+4guess what? I graduated from a community college and haven't even finished my bachelor's yet and I have an entry level IT job :D :D :D
- Marcateyou, on 04/19/2008, -4/+10I'm not a mac user, but Dell has THE worst customer service I've ever heard of. I wouldn't suggest colleges use them at all.
- TRENT310, on 04/19/2008, -0/+4Not for Dell Business grade products...and if an organization buys massive amounts of computers from them, you can be assured that they will pay attention and provide 'THE' best support ever.
- Mahoney07, on 04/19/2008, -2/+4Full Sail is a for profit University so they probably pick the most expensive laptop so the percentage profit they change gives them more money.
- queenstarsha, on 04/20/2008, -1/+2that's what it sounds like. someone said their required laptop was $3000! even for a mac (which is always a ripoff) that's a huge ripoff.
- Bamont, on 04/19/2008, -1/+2In all fairness, Full Sail doesn't *require* you to have one - just suggests that you do. They also brokered a deal with Adobe to include the software for Digital Art programs for free. Therefore, you're getting not only a great machine - but you're getting a software bundle worth around $2,000.
Be fortunate, when I graduated college there I didn't have a laptop until over a year after I'd been in the program. You have no idea how difficult it is to pay attention in four hour lectures.- digitalarcanum, on 04/19/2008, -0/+1adobe's software is over priced for starters. would be nice if they realized no one wants to pay more for a software suite than a personal computer (macs being the exception here, I guess)
In any case, Internet piracy; the landlubber's alternative.- Bamont, on 04/19/2008, -1/+3Its a career, not a hobby. You do whatever you have to not to get sued, especially if you're freelance. Adobe does random site license checks, believe it or not. You must not work in this industry, I paid full price for all my software and its more than paid itself off. If you're doing it as a hobby, there's no reason to pay the price they're asking, and with that much I do agree.
- digitalarcanum, on 04/19/2008, -0/+1adobe's software is over priced for starters. would be nice if they realized no one wants to pay more for a software suite than a personal computer (macs being the exception here, I guess)
- plunderphonics, on 04/20/2008, -0/+1You would think with Full Sail being a Audio/Video editing school they would outfit them with a dedicated Linux system designed for media editing... Of course that would be too inexpensive for a school like Full Sail, gotta get the money from the kids
- mattyk123, on 04/19/2008, -25/+9The thing is according to all colleges, macs are industry standard (for the creative industries anyway) so that's what they teach on.
- Vasari, on 04/19/2008, -21/+2Our school has a laptop program but we have a deal with IBM. Sucks.
- WiZZLa, on 04/19/2008, -5/+15It must suck as IBM has no laptop division.
- mattcoady, on 04/19/2008, -1/+7Depends on when he started. Lenovo was IBM-Lenovo up until 2005.
- DinX, on 04/19/2008, -3/+13And nothing wrong with Lenovo. Imho one of the best laptops on the market.
- jonmlm, on 04/19/2008, -0/+8true. my work t60 rules
- Light11, on 04/19/2008, -0/+2i agree, my x61 tablet rocks.
- Spuy767, on 04/20/2008, -1/+1I used to bullseye womp rats in my T-16 back home.
- WiZZLa, on 04/19/2008, -5/+15It must suck as IBM has no laptop division.
- Slagtits, on 04/19/2008, -16/+5Tards.
- huwy, on 04/19/2008, -14/+3.
- AlgnPelotudo, on 04/19/2008, -0/+6Point made.
- Velirno, on 04/19/2008, -4/+24I know my g/f has to buy a Macbook for her education major, otherwise they won't let her in. She can't even buy the cheaper model, rather the one (the good one) with all the bells and whistles...
- Myonosken, on 04/19/2008, -1/+3Fairly sure they won't check.
- theblacknight, on 04/19/2008, -0/+5Buy a refurbished one, or the previous generation used or something. No one will know the difference unless they run the serial number.
- UNL1M1T3D, on 04/19/2008, -2/+35I've been working with computers for a very long time and have yet to run into a laptop, Mac or PC, that has included bells or whistles.
- hypertension, on 04/19/2008, -3/+4Zing!
- Kazanoe, on 04/20/2008, -1/+1Most of them have whistles, so long as you mod you're fan right.
- Velirno, on 04/21/2008, -2/+1Just for that I'm hanging a bell on the damn thing when she gets it ;)
- mllawso, on 04/19/2008, -0/+6Buy an old laptop, spray paint it silver and stick an apple sticker on the back.
Or get an intel based Mac and install windows on it.
- Soccer4786, on 04/19/2008, -1/+23Thats Mizzou.
- j3ffr0, on 04/21/2008, -0/+1Muck Fizzou!
- roflburger, on 04/19/2008, -1/+30im pretty sure the MIZZOU j school recommends mac laptops strongly because they use apple software for the majority of the work they do in that major, so freshmen are pretty much forced to pick up an apple laptop for college.
- diggimator, on 04/19/2008, -3/+5Ha, then my guess is that he's either a cheap-ass Hackintosh guy or a die hard Linux guy (keeps his Mac in his dorm while taking out and using his Linux laptop instead as much as possible).
- UNL1M1T3D, on 04/19/2008, -1/+8Why does him using a hackintosh make him a cheap ass? I think you mean innovative.
- whoaohh, on 04/19/2008, -0/+8Yeah, the J-School basically requires MacBook Pros
- diggimator, on 04/19/2008, -3/+5Ha, then my guess is that he's either a cheap-ass Hackintosh guy or a die hard Linux guy (keeps his Mac in his dorm while taking out and using his Linux laptop instead as much as possible).
- SupaDawg, on 04/19/2008, -6/+50Thank god this practice isn't common up here in canada. I love my $750 HP. I'd be hard pressed to find a reason to invest in a MBP... especially on my student income.
- IanPR, on 04/19/2008, -19/+6If youre going to go into computer sciences, getting a MacBook Pro is probably the best way to go. You could tri-boot Linux, Windows, and Mac. Plus, its a beast, and is pretty ;D
- NinjaBass, on 04/19/2008, -5/+17I would actually disagree with this. I am a Computer Science major, and Mac is probably the worst programming environment possible. Just get a nice PC and dual boot XP and Linux. The only reason you would need a Mac for a Computer Science degree is if you were minoring in a graphical art.
- solidcube, on 04/20/2008, -4/+2Mac the worst programming environment possible? That statement is insane. It was pretty strange back in the 1990s back in the days of the Toolbox and Quickdraw but now a great deal of effort has been made to make it simple. It will run basically all linux software, and the development tools may well be better than those available under linux. XP? Ha. The fact that you are ostensibly a computer science major and are saying this is kind of frightening to me. Personally, I prefer linux to OSX, partly because of the expense and partly because I despise Apple's marketing tactics, but how can you possibly think that XP is better?
- Spuy767, on 04/20/2008, -3/+1Coming from a guy with a CS degree, I honestly can't understand how such a baseless comment gets positive Diggs.
- NinjaBass, on 04/25/2008, -0/+0@ solidcube
Read my post again. Where did I say that XP is better than Mac? I didn't. Why have two Unix systems when you can have one? If you're going to do programming on a Unix system, you would honestly pick a Mac? That is kind of frightening to me. I hate Mac. I hate XP, if I could ditch it, I would. Linux is the only way to go, but there are just some things you need Windows for.
- nitramlliw, on 04/19/2008, -2/+8dude, no way. the thing costs like three grand and he's on "student income" *****.
- burrgrinder, on 04/19/2008, -8/+7"Mac is probably the worst programming environment possible."
Uh, no? Windows is the worst Computer Science programming environment possible. OS X at least has all the GNU tools, Perl, Python and Ruby installed by default on the installation disc, and has an easy to work with JDK.
Sure, linux can do all of it too, but OSX being the worst? You must be a freshman.- NinjaBass, on 04/25/2008, -0/+0Boy, Digg users sure are talented at taking things out of context. I NEVER said XP is a good programming environment. If you're going to program something on a Unix system, DO IT ON LINUX. Holy crap, guys, come on now. I have XP installed because there are alot of companies who refuse to release programs for Unix, most of these being games.
- mastersmite, on 04/19/2008, -5/+1windows is the best to program in since that is what the majority of users of any program will be running. A windows PC would be the best bet since you could triple boot XP, Ubuntu, and OSX86.
- burrgrinder, on 04/19/2008, -2/+2You obviously don't know what a computer science curriculum is like, and I'm betting you've never tried to install OSX86 either.
- dudeguy1234, on 04/19/2008, -3/+3"I am a Computer Science major, and Mac is probably the worst programming environment possible. Just get a nice PC and dual boot XP and Linux." Ummm.... Linux and Mac aren't that different. Unix is very easy to program for, actually.
- digitalarcanum, on 04/19/2008, -1/+3keywords here are "college budget" roughly translates to: "I'm up to debt in my eyeballs. I want whatever is cheapest and fits the requirements" hence, macs are a no go. Also, if macs are based off unix, why not go download a free copy of solaris for X86?
Just download VM ware, install Solaris and Linux to virtual machines, and you have Unix, Linux, and Windows on one machine. The other alternative is to tri-boot.- burrgrinder, on 04/19/2008, -1/+0Solaris? You're looking at an application availability nightmare unless you enjoy compiling everything from source. In which case, you might as well download for free the Darwin x86 OS from Apple (the actual OS X operating system everything else sits on). There's not much reason to install an official Unix though, as the differences between Unix and linux are slim. I would just pick Ubuntu or some other popular distro.
Either way, Macbooks aren't that expensive if you're in the market for a laptop and they're a good choice for a CS degree. If you're absolutely ramen-eating broke, you don't need to be buying a computer in the first place, since every campus I've been on provides computer access as part of the tuition, most with 24 hour labs too. If you're a penny pincher, you're better served buying a desktop with the money, and if you just have to have a laptop and you're broke, you'd be buying from the used market and installing linux.
I just worked while in school, it's not that hard to juggle work and school. I was able to buy 3 Apple laptops and plenty of other nice things in my college years. Yeah, I still accumulated debt, but it's not that big of deal once you get a job. - nynety, on 04/20/2008, -0/+1"I'm up to my eyeballs in debt"
Fixed.
- burrgrinder, on 04/19/2008, -1/+0Solaris? You're looking at an application availability nightmare unless you enjoy compiling everything from source. In which case, you might as well download for free the Darwin x86 OS from Apple (the actual OS X operating system everything else sits on). There's not much reason to install an official Unix though, as the differences between Unix and linux are slim. I would just pick Ubuntu or some other popular distro.
- NinjaBass, on 04/19/2008, -5/+17I would actually disagree with this. I am a Computer Science major, and Mac is probably the worst programming environment possible. Just get a nice PC and dual boot XP and Linux. The only reason you would need a Mac for a Computer Science degree is if you were minoring in a graphical art.
- dvicklund, on 04/19/2008, -1/+10I don't think you can call buying a computer "investing," what with the natural cycle of obsolescence being less than six months typically.
- kyouteki, on 04/20/2008, -1/+1That's exactly why I "invested" in a Macbook Pro two years ago...before, I was buying computers every two years or so, but I fully expect this Macbook Pro to last me another two years or so at least. So, two laptops at $1000, or one at $2000? I'll pick the higher quality machine.
- thelock65, on 04/19/2008, -1/+4ManBearPig?
- IanPR, on 04/19/2008, -19/+6If youre going to go into computer sciences, getting a MacBook Pro is probably the best way to go. You could tri-boot Linux, Windows, and Mac. Plus, its a beast, and is pretty ;D
- Goya, on 04/19/2008, -0/+100What about the poor chap to the left with just paper and pen.
- NOFXY, on 04/19/2008, -0/+33"old school" FTW!
- VivaLaShay, on 04/19/2008, -0/+31Sold his computer for pot. That's what my roommate did
- OneLess, on 04/19/2008, -1/+84That may look like paper, but it's actually a MacBook Air.
- bengringo, on 04/19/2008, -9/+1he spent his student loan on pot.
- AlgnPelotudo, on 04/19/2008, -0/+18he is the only one that's not watching a movie
- dudeguy1234, on 04/19/2008, -0/+9*porn
- AlgnPelotudo, on 04/19/2008, -0/+3no, he could have a porn magazine.
- dudeguy1234, on 04/19/2008, -0/+9*porn
- jimjoke, on 04/20/2008, -2/+2Endangered species.
Don't cry for him lads, he's already gone.
- whencowsattack, on 04/19/2008, -0/+3My high school and college were both IBM campuses. The high school laptop was $900 or $25 a month and my college included it in tuition.
- thehodgie, on 04/19/2008, -1/+22Apple Jacks... I totally get it now, that's why they don't taste like Apples, they have computers inside every box!
- Modizzle, on 04/19/2008, -9/+12Macs are good because their OS is pretty solid, but on the other hand, there is Ubuntu. I haven't used it, and my only concern is whether you could run all the software you could run on a windows platform. If someone could lead me in a direction to find out, I'd be much appreciative.
- solidcube, on 04/19/2008, -0/+8No, not all windows software will run, but most will. It may take some degree of contortions to get it to work though. Just install ubuntu and try it.
- Modizzle, on 04/19/2008, -3/+8That answer is good enough for me. Thanks. Now my only question is why the hell I'm getting dug down for asking such a harmless question.
- UNL1M1T3D, on 04/19/2008, -0/+6Because you are suggesting something you have never used. That and this is Digg. Not being a dick or anything (I dugg you up), but you might not want to suggest something you've never used.
- burrgrinder, on 04/19/2008, -1/+5My advice is to not use linux if you're just wanting a Windows clone. If you're completely dependent on a few Windows programs, you're probably setting yourself up for disappointment.
Linux has many great replacements for most software, but it's not a Windows clone. WINE lets you run some programs from Windows, but it's not perfect. Download the Ubuntu LiveCD, see if you can use the OS for a while without installing it (it will be slower), then install if it meets your needs.- UNL1M1T3D, on 04/19/2008, -0/+3I can accomplish most of the basic things I want to do in Ubuntu, but when it comes to certain programs I just keep an XP partition laying around.
- TeagueSterling, on 04/19/2008, -0/+1You'd be amazed what you can do with virtualization. I don't have any windows computers, but I'm heavily tied to Adobe Fireworks (which no longer works in WINE for some bizarre reason). I created a small virtual box partition, installed XP on it, and made it as minimal as possible. The setup works amazing. I can copy and paste between my Ubuntu desktop and Windows, move files seamlessly, and run required windows programs as they would natively.
VirtualBox or any of the other virtualization programs are really worth a look.
- Modizzle, on 04/19/2008, -3/+8That answer is good enough for me. Thanks. Now my only question is why the hell I'm getting dug down for asking such a harmless question.
- solidcube, on 04/19/2008, -0/+8No, not all windows software will run, but most will. It may take some degree of contortions to get it to work though. Just install ubuntu and try it.
- cfulp, on 04/19/2008, -1/+5Saw this on fark a while back. I forget the school, but they partnered with apple to give bigger then normal discounts. Which is why most had macs.
- mGARANDEUR1, on 04/19/2008, -4/+4A lot of campuses are now based on macs.
- mllawso, on 04/19/2008, -1/+4How is a campus "based on mac"?
- mediaphile, on 04/20/2008, -0/+1If the school's curriculum is based around OS X software, I'd call it an Apple campus.
- mGARANDEUR1, on 04/20/2008, -0/+1The campus can issue software that is based on OSX. They might also sell macs at discount prices at an on campus store. My school still only supports XP.
- mllawso, on 04/19/2008, -1/+4How is a campus "based on mac"?
- linuxpenguin, on 04/19/2008, -1/+4You'd be surprised to see how many Macs you see - I go to a largely engineering/science school, and there were a lot more Macbooks than I expected.
- calon9, on 04/19/2008, -1/+6Way back when I went to university (almost 15 yrs -- wow!), Apple offered great educational discounts, close to 50%. Apple had a good relationship with schools and probably still does.
When I walked into the campus computer store and saw all the discounted computers (PCs and Macs), it was more tempting to get a Mac (a powerbook 100), knowing that I'd never see that price in the outside world.- asurroca, on 04/19/2008, -2/+3Wow, I'm going to assume that was during the era when Jobs left and they were doing under? Because I can assure you that at least on my campus their "discounts" are somewhere in the 0% - 5% range.
- dudeguy1234, on 04/19/2008, -1/+2Actually, I just looked it up for UCLA, and it was 200 off the Mac Book Pros... That's still pretty good.
- giantsfan134, on 04/19/2008, -2/+1That is only because they mark up the hardware cost like 500%
- mediaphile, on 04/20/2008, -0/+2The MacBook is actually really well priced when compared to other comparably outfitted notebooks. When I bought my MacBook a couple years ago, it was cheaper and better than the similar Sonys and Dells.
- asurroca, on 04/19/2008, -2/+3Wow, I'm going to assume that was during the era when Jobs left and they were doing under? Because I can assure you that at least on my campus their "discounts" are somewhere in the 0% - 5% range.
- rddtf3, on 04/19/2008, -0/+8I graduated from Mizzou, and not only does the J-School recommend Macs, they are required.
- SuperCUBE, on 04/20/2008, -0/+2I guess they're not really recommended then if they force you to have it.
Please, get a Mac. We _recommend it_.
No, I'm good with my Dell, thanks.
No, you don't seem to understand. _WE RECOMMEND IT_.
- SuperCUBE, on 04/20/2008, -0/+2I guess they're not really recommended then if they force you to have it.
- rentmitchum, on 04/19/2008, -6/+11100 people with Macs.. the most pretentious photo ever made.
- waldoxcore, on 04/19/2008, -1/+5University of Missouri requires journalism majors to have a Mac..
- dehlz, on 04/19/2008, -0/+4Yeah, because we all know Mac's can help you become a better writer.
- rentmitchum, on 04/20/2008, -0/+2Macs to me are like a beret and a bluetooth headset. It's all about looking important.
- dehlz, on 04/19/2008, -0/+4Yeah, because we all know Mac's can help you become a better writer.
- LastDitchHero, on 04/19/2008, -3/+3NAMBLA
- queenstarsha, on 04/20/2008, -0/+1oo. got it after the digg-down. sorry.
- joelito, on 04/19/2008, -0/+3Damn! My school is still selling HPs.
- boobsbr, on 04/20/2008, -0/+5wait, since when schools REQUIRE, not RECOMMEND, people to have a computer? what happened to computer labs?
- MikeHoe, on 04/22/2008, -0/+0Check this
http://digg.com/apple/JEALOUS_FTW
- LukeBeaumont, on 04/19/2008, -76/+7Clearly it was a photoshoot.
- Newsdude, on 04/19/2008, -39/+12There's always one in every crowd!
- arcooke, on 04/19/2008, -6/+34Yeah, and it's usually an apple user.
- Jaste, on 04/19/2008, -0/+4But she is sitting between two people without laptops. So at least she can show off to them.
- Hefelumpman, on 04/19/2008, -1/+8What? An individual?
- crazypestz, on 04/19/2008, -0/+1i dont understand why you were dugg down i thought it was funny!
- reevolutn, on 04/19/2008, -5/+164i wanna know what the girl down the front right is looking it
- faceless323, on 04/19/2008, -2/+9she probably is looking at the laughing baby vid..
- DeskFlyer, on 04/19/2008, -1/+86Sorry, I was busy looking at the girl in the front left.
- naffets, on 04/19/2008, -0/+5What about the girl to the right of the Acer (HP?) laptop in the blue shirt, she doesn't even have a laptop, let alone a mac!
- eq2s, on 04/19/2008, -7/+3Way to confuse us. To HER right. To our left. To our right there is a dude.
- carleethian, on 04/19/2008, -2/+4no... our right.
keep going eg2s
- nvisn, on 04/19/2008, -0/+17Tice Nits!
- OneLess, on 04/19/2008, -0/+3Have to admit...what grabbed my attention was the guy in the second row who looks like he's scratching his balls.
- TheXuu, on 04/19/2008, -0/+3He is probably receiving, what is called, "a telephone call," on his brand new Apple iPhone (tm), sir.
- naffets, on 04/19/2008, -0/+5What about the girl to the right of the Acer (HP?) laptop in the blue shirt, she doesn't even have a laptop, let alone a mac!
- ladon86, on 04/19/2008, -1/+35Goatse.
- Slagtits, on 04/19/2008, -0/+10Girl on right is watching the dude doing the hot dog and the girl on the left has just realised she has left the baby on the bus.
- pmace, on 04/19/2008, -0/+17Girl in the red shirt is looking at a picture of a Twinkie.
- Brainmodder, on 04/19/2008, -1/+8She's looking at YOU!
- JaqMs, on 04/19/2008, -1/+2she's looking at your comment after looking at the picture seconds after it was posted on digg, if that makes sense whatsoever.
- jordandiggsit, on 04/19/2008, -0/+42Who cares what shes looking at. I want to know why theres a dead zebra in the front row, far right.
- UNL1M1T3D, on 04/19/2008, -16/+2A soldier in a Iraq probably through it off a cliff.
- Intamin, on 04/19/2008, -1/+6Yep, and it landed indoors in Missouri.
Good one.- UNL1M1T3D, on 04/21/2008, -0/+1Sure, why not?
- Sherman901, on 04/20/2008, -2/+2hahahahahaha i'm laughing at intamin and how he just got you way good.
- Intamin, on 04/21/2008, -1/+1Oh yeah, and I forgot, "through?" Seriously...
- Intamin, on 04/19/2008, -1/+6Yep, and it landed indoors in Missouri.
- UNL1M1T3D, on 04/19/2008, -16/+2A soldier in a Iraq probably through it off a cliff.
- pizhole, on 04/19/2008, -2/+8because i sent that bitch a smiley face.
bitches loves smiley faces - megamod, on 04/19/2008, -0/+2What about the girl wearing the black shirt (2nd row from the front, to the right of the fatty wearing the red shirt). Her stare is piercing my soul and it's very moving....nvm it's just something in my pants moving
- sooter8, on 04/19/2008, -2/+02girls1cup...
- iamanorange, on 04/19/2008, -3/+4I like this version - http://www.masturbatoreum.com/images/237.jpg
Apparently, she's looking at porn- saulimus, on 04/19/2008, -0/+2The text is too hard to read in that pic.
- Knucklecallus, on 04/23/2008, -0/+1That version is both offensive and unoriginal.
- sliggy, on 04/19/2008, -1/+3You're all wrong. She was being Rick Rolled by the guy.
- GliTCH82, on 04/19/2008, -0/+1This is fun, let's do another photo after this one.
- sammydeath, on 04/19/2008, -0/+1isnt that fred durst third from right front row?
- PlainJoe, on 05/14/2008, -0/+1I digg the white chick flashing her gang sign three rows up...
http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=KKTDRqQtPO8
- sirbenofwhite, on 04/19/2008, -9/+85there's another "not apple" about half way up the stairs.. they must be new.
- Wilsomatic, on 04/19/2008, -1/+24Nah, just the light's not working on his Apple Logo.
- skribble, on 04/19/2008, -0/+10Also the laptop fourth from the isle in the row in front of the Acer is an HP.
- SiliconRain, on 04/19/2008, -0/+107And the guy on the left in the yellow t-shirt is holding what looks like some sort of primitive parchment or scroll, seemingly made out of organic plant cellulose - how ridiculous! I think he is reaching into his pocket for a scrawling implement such as a quill or stylus.
- UltramegaOK, on 04/19/2008, -1/+6He must be new.
- GliTCH82, on 04/19/2008, -0/+3He's probably the only one actually taking notes. I think everybody else is either on Myspace, facebook, or watching the video of the dancing baby.
- kirkio, on 04/19/2008, -16/+623This picture was taken at the Missouri School of Journalism (http://duggmirror.com/apple/Look_at_them_apples/)
From their website:
"Students are encouraged to acquire wireless laptop technology from Apple, which the School has designated as its preferred provider, but students also will have a choice of a Windows-based alternative. Last year, 99.5 percent of incoming students chose the Apple option."
"Q. What exactly is required?
A. The minimum is a wireless laptop with Microsoft Office installed. Most of the MU campus has easy wireless access. "
(http://journalism.missouri.edu/undergraduate/compu ...
So why is one OS preferred over the other if you're only using a word processor? Who knows.- repick3, on 04/19/2008, -105/+12Cuz they Just Work?
- graderguy, on 04/20/2008, -2/+1exactly......
- strictnein, on 04/19/2008, -6/+191And a Microsoft Word Processor at that.
- pmac, on 04/19/2008, -40/+3Is that Intel or AMD or one of those other weird ones?
- Istrancis, on 04/19/2008, -2/+28WORD processor, not, like, CPU processor.
- Intamin, on 04/19/2008, -1/+3Yeah, I just upgraded to a socket 939 word processor, that thing writes my papers for me!
- pmac, on 04/19/2008, -40/+3Is that Intel or AMD or one of those other weird ones?
- PhoenixAvatar2, on 04/19/2008, -1/+61Could be heavy discounts. My college (Drexel) does discounts with all the regular PC providers, just like most colleges, but maybe MU signed some kind of exclusive deal with Apple.
- HenvY, on 04/19/2008, -4/+47Yeah, they're not doing it for the good of the students. They're doing because they're getting a fat paycheck from apple.
- tidu, on 04/19/2008, -4/+2Drexel! Woo hoo...
- jeff303, on 04/19/2008, -0/+7It is. My sister goes to Mizzou and I advised her on her computer purchase. Their student bookstore sells Mac packages for a steep discount even over standard academic prices.
- Kronk42583, on 04/19/2008, -0/+2all universities get discounts on computers from most providers. apple, dell, ibm, gateway.... all the major computer companies give education discouts, usually 5% off the purchase price. apple has recently given better deals on ipods bundled with computers sold for education. i paid only 90 bucks for my ipod video when i bought a ibook g4 for my mother while i was in school. its clear mizzou encouraged apple, and most student are going to o with what the university reccomends and uses to avoid complications. also i used my macbook when i was a senior in college and its small size and reliability made it more attractive than my pain in the ass PC laptop.
- ursername180, on 04/19/2008, -12/+7That's why all their shirts say Mizzou?
- drlha, on 04/19/2008, -0/+6Yep.
- MarrowMan, on 04/19/2008, -5/+2You we're expecting Harvard were you?
- below413, on 04/19/2008, -4/+2***** hahvahd.
- Anifanatic, on 04/19/2008, -1/+0You we're? =/ *grammar'd*
- drlha, on 04/19/2008, -0/+6Yep.
- cheappop, on 04/19/2008, -6/+105Because they get sponsored to do it. It is the same ***** with middle and high schools. Apple puts itself there to familiarize it with the youth, thus making them dependent on a particular operating system.
- Gimpishi, on 04/19/2008, -1/+16I went to a Missouri elementary school and middle school. All of the computers were from Apple. All the way up to college level in that state it seems.
- linkinpark342, on 04/20/2008, -0/+1I went to my local public elementary/middle school. and i think every single one in the area is like that (apple). they just sold a ***** ton when the schools were being formed. doesn't mean most of the people at those schools don't use Windows.
I'm just glad my college looks like that except with Thinkpad T61 and in my classes probably half of them are Linux (though depressing that you can tell most of them are Ubuntu... no variety anymore =(... )
- linkinpark342, on 04/20/2008, -0/+1I went to my local public elementary/middle school. and i think every single one in the area is like that (apple). they just sold a ***** ton when the schools were being formed. doesn't mean most of the people at those schools don't use Windows.
- FiendishMuffin, on 04/19/2008, -0/+2I was in the MU Journalism program and sat in that very lecture hall. I too had a mac, but only because the on-campus apple store has pretty awesome student discounts. I even got mine on clearance! Honestly, if you're an MU student, it's the best time to get an apple if you're going to get one.
- ZenMojo, on 04/19/2008, -3/+4Back in elementary school we were taught on the Apple IIe and in middle school and high school my school district used nothing but Macs. Meanwhile, just about every kid I knew owned a PC.
It's a clever marketing strategy by Apple, trying to brainwash kids into buying their system at early ages, just like Coke machines in the school cafeteria, but it never actually works.- ladyarcher85, on 04/19/2008, -3/+4Sadly it does, to a degree.
- PandarenLord, on 04/20/2008, -0/+1Hmm, except Coke is addictive. Oh, and anecdotal evidence (a poor example too), does not matter.
- Fundillo, on 04/20/2008, -0/+1It's like McDonalds...
- PandarenLord, on 04/20/2008, -0/+1I'm sorry, but kids are essentially conditioned by everything that they learn to use. I think I should point out that by your same reasoning, Microsoft (e.g.) does this but on a much larger scale. Apple's tactics may be to introduce kids to Macs, however, there is almost a certainty that they will not solely use Macs, simply because of the penetration of Windows. I believe it is more of an attempt at product exposure.
- Gimpishi, on 04/19/2008, -1/+16I went to a Missouri elementary school and middle school. All of the computers were from Apple. All the way up to college level in that state it seems.
- lamiaconfitor, on 04/19/2008, -2/+82licensing agreement, school got paid. Its that simple.
- stereosaurus, on 04/19/2008, -1/+3Pretty much. I go to Mizzou, as a Journalism major, and there's really no reason that you need to have a Mac (I don't, in fact I have an Acer laptop, sadly that's not me though). The software used is predominantly Adobe (InCopy, InDesign, Photoshop) whose software of course is just as suitably run on Windows than on OSX. Not to mention the fact that you are more or less required to do most of your work in a lab (the newspaper newsroom, TV station newsroom, etc.) on one of the wonderfully outdated iMacs.
- skeletorcares, on 04/19/2008, -2/+2a journalism school not promoting free-choice, i'm sad to see this is an american image. Sounds more like a chinese school to me, i mean, that is where apples are made. Also... communism.....
- stereosaurus, on 04/19/2008, -0/+2It's funny you should say that, considering that the Chinese students (there are quite a few) are generally the only ones who DONT have Macs.
- skeletorcares, on 04/19/2008, -1/+1The Chinese being productive instead of buying into the latest expensive fad? no wonder they are gonna fusticate us in WWIII.
- skeletorcares, on 04/19/2008, -1/+1The Chinese being productive instead of buying into the latest expensive fad? no wonder they are gonna fusticate us in WWIII.
- CrushThemTorg, on 04/19/2008, -0/+2Ha ha! Your medium's dying.
Ah crap ... I'm a journalism major. Whiskey time!
- stereosaurus, on 04/19/2008, -0/+2It's funny you should say that, considering that the Chinese students (there are quite a few) are generally the only ones who DONT have Macs.
- directedition, on 04/19/2008, -0/+3Not always the case. After the funding cuts to my school's art department, they are no longer able to maintain computer labs. So what to do? Require the students to buy laptops. The Mac requirement was implemented in the interest of having a homogenous working environment for art students. I can tell you the dept chairs received $0 for it. You don't HAVE to buy a mac, but it means you won't get to use the university volume licenses or get much support for the applications you use. I'm a film major and I use a Mac (*cough* OSX86 *cough*) because the dept's taught editing software is Final Cut Pro. But some students still buy PCs and "buy" copies of Adobe Premiere.
- Stevethegreat, on 04/19/2008, -14/+55So that a worse monopolizer (Apple) will become the master of the market by familiarizing the youth with their products. It's also funny cause if you think about it Apple is only accusing Microsoft because they're not in their position. If Apple had won the OS war things would be a lot worse (hardware would still be in the 90s at most, for once).
It seems like Linux or Linux based attempts are the only hope for the survival of home computing as an independent section of the economy instead of a luxury provided by certain companies (PCs could already be sold for less than $400 and do everything that modern PCs do, if it was not for the OS and propriety software adding on the cost)....- burrgrinder, on 04/19/2008, -3/+3"hardware would still be in the 90s at most, for once"
You're arguing that x86 isn't stuck in the 80s and 90s? If Apple had won, things would probably be PPC, a technically superior architecture. Other hardware would certainly be different, but I see no reason to think it would be any worse than what's occurred with Microsoft (refusing to support some families of hardware to prevent breaking backwards compatibility with their 16bit codebase).- Kamujin, on 04/20/2008, -0/+1Dude, PPC was a dead end. RISC is a nice idea, but full instruction sets make as much sense as GPUs when top end performance is limited.
Also, PPC didn't do multicore very well.
- Kamujin, on 04/20/2008, -0/+1Dude, PPC was a dead end. RISC is a nice idea, but full instruction sets make as much sense as GPUs when top end performance is limited.
- burrgrinder, on 04/19/2008, -3/+3"hardware would still be in the 90s at most, for once"
- Xalorous, on 04/19/2008, -15/+9Mutually beneficial agreement designed to benefit everyone involved.
Easier to support ONE OS. Instructions for the classes only need to be written for one OS. etc.
Apple gives the students a discount on the laptops, they get their product out there with young audience.
Students get to use computer for college. In this day and age, when most of them will have a computer on their desktop at work, it is not a bad thing to start learning now, although many probably know more than their instructors.
Main problem here is that most of those kids can't afford the laptop, even at a discounted rate, so they've used student loans to pay. They'll probably pay significantly more than paying full price with cash at an Apple store once they've spread it out over 10-20 years. Bad to go into debt further.- AlanLivingston, on 04/19/2008, -2/+8You know, you're probably right. Experience has shown time and time again, that a regulated market is much better for the consumer than a free and open market.
- markpoepsel, on 04/19/2008, -2/+3You could look at it that way, or you could say the students are getting an actual physical tool they can take with them for the next several years and getting it cheaper by buying as part of a bulk agreement.
Makes more sense than many other college expenses. $150 dorm chair anyone? - davewho, on 04/19/2008, -1/+1This is preference not regulation.
- markpoepsel, on 04/19/2008, -2/+3You could look at it that way, or you could say the students are getting an actual physical tool they can take with them for the next several years and getting it cheaper by buying as part of a bulk agreement.
- AlanLivingston, on 04/19/2008, -2/+8You know, you're probably right. Experience has shown time and time again, that a regulated market is much better for the consumer than a free and open market.
- neferiousrich, on 04/19/2008, -23/+7o i dunno.... because they won't spread viruses?
- Velirno, on 04/19/2008, -5/+13I dunno...Once more and more schools use Macs more than windows machines, hackers will just step in with ease. Only reason there hasn't been any (or at least few) viruses is because most larger businesses use Windows still.
- digitalpencil, on 04/19/2008, -7/+5OS/X's security is largely attributed to its BSD roots. However, its inherent security measures are also well implemented. Many argue that the only reason that OS/X has remained virus/malware free for so long is due to its obscurity. Whilst this too is true to an extent its equally an entirely naive perspective to hold suggesting that this is the only reason it has remained secure since for so long..
Think about it, how may mac-haters out there would love to see a virus spread on this platform? Hell, how many people are always arguing that the first mac-virus is just around the corner? The truth is simple, most virus writers code for community kudos, if one managed to write the first successful virus, to spread outside a lab environment, they would be the veritable virusKings of the computing world! Championed by Windows lovers and Apple haters alike, for once and for all, wiping that smug fanboy smile off the faces of so many mac users..
Has it happened though?? No.. People have been waffling on for years about how OS/X's secure base is under attack and soon enough someone's going to crack it but they haven't. I love macs for various reasons and I own one, I also own a Windows/Linux box and love it for other reasons & hate the airs of superiority associated with each specific group but you can't carrying on flogging the same dead-horse... OS/X is secure! The vast majority of mac-users have never even thought about securing their machines and have never suffered any security issues whatsoever.- LocalDocal, on 04/19/2008, -3/+6Er, hate to break your argument, but wasn't there a virus for Mac OSX? Leap-A?
- graderguy, on 04/20/2008, -3/+3my my, the windoze fanboyz are out in force digging down every positive comment about mac. And to hear them gripe about "macs taking over the world" is just too ***** funny/..
"wasn't there "_A_" virus for mac osx?" Oh *****, I'm gonna puke from laughing.....
roflmoa [:P*
digg me down!!! MACS RULE!!!!! - Velirno, on 04/21/2008, -0/+2Well my perspective is from the dirtiest of dirty when it comes to hackers...which are those who do it to make money.
- digitalpencil, on 04/19/2008, -7/+5OS/X's security is largely attributed to its BSD roots. However, its inherent security measures are also well implemented. Many argue that the only reason that OS/X has remained virus/malware free for so long is due to its obscurity. Whilst this too is true to an extent its equally an entirely naive perspective to hold suggesting that this is the only reason it has remained secure since for so long..
- Hoov, on 04/19/2008, -3/+7Are you retarded?
- brkhobowriter, on 04/19/2008, -0/+3He's just etarded...
- NinjaJoey, on 04/19/2008, -2/+3Only nubs get viruses, much less spread them.
- Velirno, on 04/19/2008, -5/+13I dunno...Once more and more schools use Macs more than windows machines, hackers will just step in with ease. Only reason there hasn't been any (or at least few) viruses is because most larger businesses use Windows still.
- D14BL0, on 04/19/2008, -17/+6That is ***** awesome that they refer to Windows as an alternative for once.
- RunningRabbit, on 04/19/2008, -2/+3I don't understand why that is awesome...... you realize that it's just going to flip to all Mac at one point, and then Windows will ACTUALLY make a kick-ass OS to win the war back and it's just going to start moving the other way again..... it's a cycle, and it's lame when people take sides.
- graderguy, on 04/20/2008, -0/+1it's never been a cycle. Apple OS's have always been better. SOS for the old apple /// STILL beats DOS hands down. And GUI is owned by mac......
(I am going for a record number of negative diggs in one article. please help me Windows apologists..") - Hoov, on 04/20/2008, -0/+1If by GUI you're referring to Graphical User Interface you're another dumbass.
- bbrew, on 05/02/2008, -0/+1LOL, Microsoft writing a kick-ass OS!!! :-) ROFLMAO
- graderguy, on 04/20/2008, -0/+1it's never been a cycle. Apple OS's have always been better. SOS for the old apple /// STILL beats DOS hands down. And GUI is owned by mac......
- RunningRabbit, on 04/19/2008, -2/+3I don't understand why that is awesome...... you realize that it's just going to flip to all Mac at one point, and then Windows will ACTUALLY make a kick-ass OS to win the war back and it's just going to start moving the other way again..... it's a cycle, and it's lame when people take sides.
- billbuckner, on 04/19/2008, -2/+10Mizzou broadcast students use Final Cut and I assume their print department uses a mac based layout system.
- dancercotillion, on 04/19/2008, -2/+8I use Final Cut in my broadcasting program. It sucks ass. I cannot stand using Macs in class. They're so touchy and obscure, it's absolutely unreal. Give me Adobe Premiere, Avid or, God, even a Media 100 anytime, man. ***** Final Cut.
- markpoepsel, on 04/19/2008, -6/+23I went to Mizzou, am going back for my Ph.D.
They're pushing multimedia, or convergence journalism, which is to say encouraging students in the various news sequences to learn how to produce video and soundslides, etc. in preparation for web-based media to dominate. (Older generation watches TV...30s and younger get their news from the Internet). So, even print students will have to be familiar with visual grammar. Final Cut Pro is what Mizzou has used for awhile. Express is cheap and easy to use. Photoshop works well on Macs, etc. Office is required just because it's the industry standard Word Proc. I know Open Office is an option, but there are enough differences in the way it functions that most students would be better off learning on MS Word.
oh, btw
MIZZOU-RAH!- arfuldodgerIII3, on 04/19/2008, -7/+0"(Older generation watches TV...30s and younger get their news from the Internet)."
O rly? Well someone forgot to tell my 62 y/o mom cause she e-mails me news articles from various websites every other day. And my 65 y/o uncle is constantly e-mailing me youtube links, news articles and various website url's every day.
And then there is my buddy who is 31, and the only thing he looks at the internet for is porn, he either reads newspapers or watches TV.
God I hate digg, people make grandiose statements and they have no idea what they are talking about.- kingtriumph, on 04/19/2008, -0/+2If you hate digg so much, why do you even bother to post a reply, let alone come to the page and view an article and it's comments?
- ParanoydAndroid, on 04/19/2008, -0/+3Jesus you're an ass. He didn't make a "grandiose" statement. He made a generalization, but a fair one IMO. The fact that you could name three people you knew who "disproved" the generalization shows us nothing, since the united states alone has 100 million times that number, and if you consider the younger generation in all the internet enabled areas worldwide, that gap obviously increases. One of the central tenants you learn in structured argumentation is that anecdotes don't mean ***** for evidentiary purposes. I could care less about your 65 year old uncle, he proves nothing about a fairly obvious emerging tech trend that apparently neither you, nor your 31 year old buddy, can wrap your heads around.
- arfuldodgerIII3, on 04/19/2008, -7/+0"(Older generation watches TV...30s and younger get their news from the Internet)."
- idleidol, on 04/19/2008, -2/+10Mac is the standard for desktop publishing. It used to be for graphic design as well, but PCs are pretty even in that market now. Mac still control most of the sound editing sector.
- pixelguru, on 04/19/2008, -0/+6In my part of the world (East Coast, USA) Macs have always, and continue to dominate in graphic design. I work for a 50+ year old advertising agency, and we're currently in the process of phasing out ALL our Windows PCs - currently only used in sales & accounting. Any currently required PC apps will run in Parallels. Vista was the final straw for management, but the support bills for the PCs (historically 3X that of the Macs) also contributed to the decision. As a web programmer, I use a single Mac to design, code and test on PC and Mac browsers. It's even a development server running both Apache and Ruby on Rails.
- bobburn, on 04/19/2008, -11/+14Macs are seen as 'trendy', and since the Macs are also 'preferred' by the university the less-informed students take whatever the University says is best.
- daizaru, on 04/19/2008, -2/+7The simple answer is money, the school gets paid to encourage people to use macs very much the same way teachers are influenced into what high priced books they sell you vs cheaper books with the exact same information. Schools are businesses and will do whatever for a quick buck, apple may or may not be the good alternative to learn on but that is not the backing for their decision.
My school also pushes Apple and encourages their student pricing (which is about $150 savings), then teaches using Windows or Fedora. Most people just want macs though because it trendy, even the pretty girls are like "oh you have a mac?" when they come up to my friends. I've really got nothing against macs, besides their pricing but they are being marketed to people who may never really NEED the perks of a mac. It's brand awareness though, they know what they are doing and are doing it well.
If people want to spend the money let them, but I wish schools would preach the benefits of both because being a student is expensive and schools just keep catoring to companies and making it more and more difficult financially. - ligyron, on 04/19/2008, -7/+2It's just that macs are the preferred operation system next to Linux for programmers and art designers. If you want to go to business school, event coordination, human resources, public relations, or business management/administration, expect to be using PC. If you're going into information technology, computer science, accounting, graphic design, expect to be using mac
- Mapekz, on 04/19/2008, -1/+3IT or computer science or accounting = Mac? Not at all. Windows if not Linux for all three of those. Mac is the LAST thing a programmer will want to touch.
Apple isn't known for its servers if such things even exist, so socket programming is out of the question. Java is portable, so OS doesn't matter, but typically I find Windows users coding in Java. But Linux completely dominates C/C++ with gcc/g++, followed by Windows with gcc/g++ ports and its various IDEs such as MS Visual Studio and Borland.
Needless to say, you won't see a Google employee or a Goldman-Sachs IT guy using a Mac at work. In most cases, Linux, otherwise Windows. - ligyron, on 04/19/2008, -1/+1Well I'm just speaking from experience. My brother is studying computer programming, and the school uses mac and all his classmates use mac, and he always tells me how much his classmates talk about their computers. My cousin, who went into web design/graphic design, also uses mac
I'm studying business administration/public relations, and all the school computers use PC, and when we do marketing research we use PC. The only mac in the school is one I've seen the IT admin carrying around sometimes
I suppose their marketing campaigns are working. All the commercials portray the mac as a young geek/programmer/graphic designer, and the PC is your regular business man- skeletorcares, on 04/19/2008, -0/+1Apple lawyers are gonna getcha for "All the commercials portray the mac as a young geek/programmer" cuz you missed their campaign by about a million miles.
- Mapekz, on 04/24/2008, -0/+0If we are going to use completely useless and just blatantly wrong stereotypes, Macs are what the "cool" kids use. Windows machines are those that your "professionals" use. Linux is what your "geek/programmmer" types use. There's a fair bit of overlap between Windows and *NIX, but for the most part I believe the above holds true. And this is truly "speaking from experience". I've been programming for ~9 years now, and am about to graduate with a non-programming related degree. I'll be taking up a job with a prestigious company under an IT/programming programming department - I was out-programming most of my fellow interns over the summer who were almost all master's students.
I am not here to flaunt my accomplishments but instead tell you directly that a _majority_ (not all) of people who "study computer programming" at school have nothing on people who have done it forever as a hobby on their own time. If I had the link on me, I'd refer you to that old link that used to be on Digg regarding "how to tell if someone is a good programmer" because much of it seems true.
Just before I finish here, I'm not trying to berate you or anything, so don't take it the wrong way. I'm just trying to dispel any preconceived notions you have after what you have heard indirectly (through your brother and what he tells you) with what's much more accurate.
- Mapekz, on 04/19/2008, -1/+3IT or computer science or accounting = Mac? Not at all. Windows if not Linux for all three of those. Mac is the LAST thing a programmer will want to touch.
- aaabatteries, on 04/19/2008, -4/+48so they can't play games during lectures. =P
- AntidoteSqrd, on 04/21/2008, -0/+1That strategy died when bootcamp was released.
- thedrue, on 04/19/2008, -3/+6The school IT department might have something to say about it... fewer network problems, easier to keep up.
- taikahn, on 04/19/2008, -2/+3... or because they simply work and someone on the school board knows that.
- eightyk88, on 04/19/2008, -0/+0um year microsoft word is great but i bet they are all DMA students.
- jwalk81980, on 04/19/2008, -3/+3college kids like free music. free music (and porn) = spyware. spyware = huge headache for college i.t. department. spyware doesn't affect macs because macs are made of god. this is one of many reasons why mizzou, just like every other university, prefers macs.
- SwedishNinja, on 04/20/2008, -0/+1"college kids like free music. free music (and porn) = spyware. spyware = huge headache for college i.t. department. spyware doesn't affect macs because no one even ***** cares enough about mac to make spyware or viruses for it. this is one of many reasons why mizzou, just like every other university, prefers macs."
Fixed.
- SwedishNinja, on 04/20/2008, -0/+1"college kids like free music. free music (and porn) = spyware. spyware = huge headache for college i.t. department. spyware doesn't affect macs because no one even ***** cares enough about mac to make spyware or viruses for it. this is one of many reasons why mizzou, just like every other university, prefers macs."
- serebreal, on 04/19/2008, -2/+1Easy answer to this question -
Step 1: Apple finds the person or persons that decides if there will be a 'preferred' computer company, and who that will be.
Step 2: Buy that person(s) lunch, dinner, tickets to ball games, Apple hardware, clothes, get their kid a job, etc. etc.
Step 3: Throw some flashy and possibly made-up marketing bunk and statistics at that person so they can feel like they are doing the 'right thing'.
Step 4: PROFIT!!!!
- repick3, on 04/19/2008, -105/+12Cuz they Just Work?
- chrisaug18, on 04/19/2008, -54/+747Holy rich kids alert
- eigenweasel, on 04/19/2008, -37/+83Or maybe kids with hard-working parents who have foregone their own expenditure to invest in their childrens' educations?
- byrdgang, on 04/19/2008, -9/+35How is buying an expensive laptop a good investment? Even an inexpensive laptop is not that much of an investment. Remember how people used to go to schools before laptops were invented? Those before-laptops-were-invented students were just fine.
- albinorhino101, on 04/19/2008, -3/+17It's an investment in mobile porn
- stealth210, on 04/19/2008, -2/+1Sure, when businesses worldwide didn't need them you could get away with learning without them. These kids look they are in some sort of arts or related class. How would you teach whatever graphic/3D/etc theories they are learning without being able to use some sort of said purpose application? Now, I'm sure there is some internet abuse going on that distracts the students from learning, but it will be their own fault if they miss the material.
- cactus476, on 04/19/2008, -3/+5And buy a Mac?
- roflburger, on 04/19/2008, -3/+19i go to that school, and certain major's you basically need to buy a Mac to keep up in coursework and use the software the school provides. Its not so much of a style choice for this class as a school requirement.
- wedgemartin, on 04/19/2008, -0/+5i'm trying to figure out why you're getting dug down for that comment. a fact is a fact..
- quisph, on 04/19/2008, -0/+2That's the way it was at my school in the mid-90s. I had two computers at home (Amiga and PC) but I still had to spend countless hours using Macs in the computer labs.
- stealth210, on 04/19/2008, -0/+1Back in the late 80s and up to the late nighties, Apple gave a huge discount or hardware donation to school districts to encourage adoption of their hardware and software and to get the kids used to using their product. Back then, there was 1% +/- market share. Now that those kids are becoming/ have become adults, Apple is starting to see a major return in market share.
- wedgemartin, on 04/19/2008, -3/+3and a respectable system
- thedez, on 04/20/2008, -0/+2Doubtful
- byrdgang, on 04/19/2008, -9/+35How is buying an expensive laptop a good investment? Even an inexpensive laptop is not that much of an investment. Remember how people used to go to schools before laptops were invented? Those before-laptops-were-invented students were just fine.
- Xalorous, on 04/19/2008, -7/+81They might "look" rich, but 20 years from now when they look back as they send in their final student loan payment and add it up, that laptop's going to cost them about $4k.
- asurroca, on 04/19/2008, -0/+3Agreed... this, coming from someone who uses a cheapie $350 laptop for school and owes about as much in student loans as the price of a MacBook Pro.... that *****'ll be paid off by the time I graduate.
- orlyfactor, on 04/19/2008, -2/+48The "rich" kids are in private schools with $5,000/hr hookers. I'd rather see that picture.
- Tyrghast, on 04/19/2008, -23/+30Ballpark estimate would say that... everyone with a mac in that room is a liberal arts major or will end up one. We'll see how rich they are in ten years when they're waiting tables 'cus their degree is useless...
- lostarchitect, on 04/19/2008, -10/+51oh please. go weld something.
- byrdgang, on 04/19/2008, -4/+5You are so right even though I am a liberal arts major (English to be specific).
- SupaDawg, on 04/19/2008, -13/+7ahh, another wonderful person who has brainwashed to think of post-secondary education as job training. Congrats to you... welcome to the masses.
- talonstriker, on 04/19/2008, -2/+10If it isn't, I want my money back.
- funzo, on 04/19/2008, -1/+10LOLiberalarts
- vagarach, on 04/19/2008, -6/+10But macs allow them to better express their thoughts, what is more important than that? I mean, with windows, they'd all be suffocating in corporate ineptitude.
- stealth210, on 04/19/2008, -1/+2Dugg. Too bad people don't recognize good sarcasm when they see it.
- crsd36, on 04/19/2008, -0/+2They're all journalism students at Mizzou. All incoming freshmen J-School students are now required to purchase a laptop upon acceptance. Many emphasis areas within the school of journalism require software only available on macs, i.e. broadcast journalism uses Final Cut.
- discodeathopera, on 04/19/2008, -13/+6Holy brats Batman!
- IanPR, on 04/19/2008, -9/+4Or... its just kids who dont spend 50 dollars on booze a weekend, and dont spend money on things they dont need.
- kidneyd08, on 04/19/2008, -1/+5Probably not
- Kanidia, on 04/19/2008, -5/+2People think that spending 3000 dollars on a MBP is an investment because they can use it for about 10 years after they buy it. Wrong, you should never spend too much money on a computer, because it is not an investment, it is forcing yourself to use crappy computers. If you are rich, buy a 800$ computer and use it for 2 years, then sell it and buy another 800$ computer. Don't expect to buy one 3k computer and use it for 6 years.
- GamerGirl57, on 04/19/2008, -2/+0agreed, just did the $800 laptop thing...computers change so much in 4-6 years!
- alpha88, on 04/19/2008, -2/+3Orrr... you could buy the $3000 better laptop, use it for 2 years, then sell it and buy another $3000 computer. Mac's maintain their value much better than PC's, so this is pretty easy to do, whereas selling a used PC for close to what you bought it for is nearly impossible after 2 years.
- Ymeg, on 04/19/2008, -1/+10They are rich for now, but...
but this is a liberal arts college and they are majoring in art and philosophy.- jpkeisala, on 04/19/2008, -4/+4Yea, and using Mac. That is very useful for real work...
- OpaqueMurdock, on 04/20/2008, -2/+2It is for me...
- jpkeisala, on 04/19/2008, -4/+4Yea, and using Mac. That is very useful for real work...
- eigenweasel, on 04/19/2008, -37/+83Or maybe kids with hard-working parents who have foregone their own expenditure to invest in their childrens' educations?
- Fatcheeseguy, on 04/19/2008, -25/+3I wonder how many of them also sadly own this.
http://www.symantec.com/norton/products/overview.j ...- bytor4232, on 04/19/2008, -1/+44How do you know that Acer isn't running Ubuntu!
- borninda818, on 04/19/2008, -5/+12How many women run Ubuntu?
- Light11, on 04/19/2008, -2/+8error, could not compute
- dawnraid101, on 04/19/2008, -2/+4youfail.org
- lamiaconfitor, on 04/19/2008, -0/+6your momma does.
- balazsbela, on 04/19/2008, -2/+5Many
- bytor4232, on 04/19/2008, -2/+2It was a woman who put me down the Ubuntu path. I was running Debian at the time, and was looking for another Distro for personal reasons.
Currently, I personally know at least four women who run Ubuntu, and have seen a lot of women online who enjoy a healthy cup of buntu. - identitymatrix, on 04/19/2008, -0/+2My college laptop (IBM Thinkpad) came with Vista installed. I gave it a shot for a few weeks but became fed up with it and installed Ubuntu over it.
- borninda818, on 04/19/2008, -5/+12How many women run Ubuntu?
- sq377, on 04/19/2008, -2/+27I like to keep a healthy supply of "Page Not Found" around. Why shouldn't they?
- Hayaemsay, on 04/19/2008, -1/+11I presume he was pointing to the Norton Antivirus 11.0 for Mac
Coincidentally I saw it yester while getting a new mouse, and wondered if anyone was stupid enough to buy it.- lostarchitect, on 04/19/2008, -0/+3occasionally someone asks me if they need it. i'm like, well, if you want your computer to run 20% slower for no reason, go to town.
- KayIslandDrunk, on 04/19/2008, -6/+2One of my friends from college now works as a computer consultant and uses a mac when he has to travel. He keeps Antivirus on it for no reason other than most of his clients run PCs and he'd hate to lose their business by passing them a virus that could hurt their systems.
- lostarchitect, on 04/19/2008, -0/+3occasionally someone asks me if they need it. i'm like, well, if you want your computer to run 20% slower for no reason, go to town.
- Hayaemsay, on 04/19/2008, -1/+11I presume he was pointing to the Norton Antivirus 11.0 for Mac
- bytor4232, on 04/19/2008, -1/+44How do you know that Acer isn't running Ubuntu!
- nizzy1115, on 04/19/2008, -127/+1047At least one kid has a brain of his own.
- sgregory416, on 04/19/2008, -10/+38ftw!
- theprez, on 04/19/2008, -43/+17Exactly what I thought when I was in college studying engineering and was the only one to have a Mac in my class.
- dukeochutney, on 04/19/2008, -17/+37thats because you're a tool
- Viriatus2, on 04/19/2008, -15/+37so you were the gay dude with the Mac
- fxu1989, on 04/19/2008, -7/+8no no no you're wrong
according to the commercials, he's the cool hip guy that everybody likes!
- fxu1989, on 04/19/2008, -7/+8no no no you're wrong
- OpaqueMurdock, on 04/20/2008, -3/+4Wow, can you believe these freaks? And they call Mac users arrogant. I say its rarely been us that starts this crap... how can people hate a product so much? Its like a sickness. Stay strong my Mac brother... only a few more years and the tables will be turned. heh.
- graderguy, on 04/20/2008, -3/+2the windoze freaks are on it tonight. they must have all figured ou
