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- Mysk, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11ATi's drivers for Vista are substantially more stable and far closer to being feature complete than NVidia's drivers. The difference is so significant, in fact, that I would go out and buy an ATi card right now to replace my NVidia card if I had the money to burn on something like this. I'm running Vista, so this is something that's important to me. The strength of the drivers now has importance beyond powering games.
I realize that it's vogue to knock on ATi's drivers, and they have definitely earned that reputation. However, read any review of the driver situation in Vista and see for yourself. The roles are now reversed.
Though I'm sure that fanboism will rear its head as it always does, I don't personally give a rat's about EITHER company. I only care about which product is currently the best. As far as it stands with Vista drivers - not the actual power of the card itself, but the drivers - that company with the best is ATi.
~Mysk - unidentified, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I wouldn't touch ATI with a ten foot pole tell they get some decent Linux drivers. Thanks anyway though.
- mesostinky, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5As a nvidia only buyer it burns me to say it but ATI's drivers are VASTLY better than nvidia's when it comes to Vista. ATI users with only a few exceptions can go right to Vista with little to no penalty. Nvidia users are getting hammered and lose anywhere from 5%-50% on Vista.
I wish Nvidia would get its crap together already. - Lyanto, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5At what point were ATI's Windows drivers problematic? They were a bit bloated but I found it reassuring that they took the effort to release updates every month to ensure compatibility and performance with the newest games. Granted, they don't have very good Linux drivers, but that seems like a whole other issue to me.
- Buelldozer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Second.
I am sick and tired of their ***** drivers for *nix and I've emailed them several times to let them know that I will not be buying any more of their products until they do better.
I've been a faithful ATI buyer since 3DFX went under but no more! - misfit410, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2The X1950 Pro is more powerful than this, and can be found in the $150 range already ($169 with a $10 rebate), with performance much greater
than anything else in it's price class. - m3ta1head, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Looks like an excellent midrange competitor.
- pistcivet, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I'm going to be in the market for a new video card soon
but it won't be ATI that gets a sale.
Unless by some miracle they release decent Linux drivers.
(Ex ATI fan-boy) - Caffeinate, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Good Review.
- OneAndOnlySnob, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I've been an ATI guy for about 6 years. My current card (purchased almost a year ago) is the last ATI card I will buy until they change their ways. I blame them for a substantial part of keeping Linux off a lot of people's desktops. The fact that they don't support AIGLX is PROBABLY what is keeping Beryl out of the next Ubuntu. I've gotten Beryl working on my ATI card through XGL, and was no cakewalk. The nightly builds from subversion were the only builds that worked. And yes, it's unstable and crashes hard with no warning.
- frgmstr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Looks like the R600 may be a bit longer than 60 days after all.
- macbookpromat, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I can't wait for the R600, I would love to see it in a Mac Pro, same with the 8800.
- 35263526, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Combination of tax (VAT especially is very noticable on > £100 purchases) and the fact that we've gotten so used to being overcharged that the vast majority of people don't think about it :/
- frgmstr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1ATI just released a new driver as well with OpenGL for Vista. Remember too that ATI will finally have their "next-gen" out in the next 60 days as well. I think maybe not having a DX10 card has shielded them from a lot of slings and arrows that NVIDIA is having to eat along with those big 8800 series revenues.
- unununium, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Why are you still an nVidia-only buyer if ATi's driver support in Vista is that superior?
- tgunner, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This will still face some tough competition from the upcoming nVidia 8600 series cards.
- reevolutn, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1does anyone know if hooking two of these up with crossfire be better then one 300dollar card?
- erll, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1A pity about the irritating fan noise. That would rule it out for me.
- supermanred, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2ATI is working hard right now to make the fan louder, and their driver team is working on adding more bluescreens of death. The product will not ship until the driver makes it fail miserably at key moments.
God I hate ATI drivers. Anyone want to buy a used HDTV Wonder card? 75 bucks!! Oh, it doesnt do one thing...uh... play HDTV. - endgame, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Why do our brothers in the UK have to pay so much more for hardware than us in the U.S.?
- Henwood, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Shame it costs over £200 ($400) in the UK! Rather than the $150 in the states. It'll be a while before I get one then!
- Shroomie, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I thought about ordering one of these, but I ended up just getting a cheap X1650Pro to hold me over until ATI has some decently priced DX10 cards.
- TheSpooler, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Ok, to all of you saying that ATI has the best Vista drivers in your comments about the Sapphire ATI X1950 GT, let me correct you. Concerning the vista drivers located here http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/vista64/common-vista64.html, take a look at the relesase notes for the latest version (7.2) : "Caution: The ATI Radeon™ X1950 GT is currently not supported under the Windows Vista operating system"
- Drizzt81, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It's a [H]OCP article. Need we say more?
- dmg025, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Yeah go with X1950 Pro...but I am still partial to Nvidia. Anyone make the swap to Vista and have problems with Nvidia?
- gtlogic, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Vista... sigh.
- mlw4428, on 10/12/2007, -5/+0Guys...Vista hasn't been out THAT long. Granted NVidia and ATI prolly got the OS back before it was released so that they could develop drivers for it. However Vista is a bit of a different beast and it might take NVidia a while to catch up.
However I'm an Nvidia guy now after being an ATI fanboy for years. My 5 month old Sapphire x1600XT bit the dust for no apparent reason one day. I can say I still have a very old GeForce 2 (64MB version I think) that still runs.
Plus Nvidia has better Linux drivers :D - troydoogle7, on 10/12/2007, -11/+2If only they would develop working drivers for their existing range of "vista compatible" graphics cards, before creating more...
Ati sucks.... BIGGG!
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