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- PATSCRU, on 07/01/2008, -1/+44The 4850 and the 4870 are big kicks in the ass to people who think they can't afford PC gaming. You can pick up a 4850 for $175-199 and play every game out there today on the highest settings (except for one of course). Well done ATI, you gave PC gaming just what a needed...performance for the masses.
- Rocketman1882, on 07/01/2008, -0/+34It won't play Hello Kitty Island Adventure? =(
- 11Christine, on 07/01/2008, -0/+30Nice! Nvidia would be finally forced to release something good, not like the 9xxx series.
- banmaster, on 07/01/2008, -1/+26Nobody seriously gives a ***** about mac users. Get used to it!
- banmaster, on 07/01/2008, -2/+16Can someone tell me the point of the 9xxx series at all?
All the cards are slower than their 8xxx equivalents! - n0odles, on 07/01/2008, -4/+18nVidia open your drivers stay ahead.
- digiwand, on 07/01/2008, -0/+14I'm working on a 4870 review now and the card is just f-ing amazing! Granted I'm an ATi enthusiast and all, but this card is really the one that is gonna put them back in the game.
It's the price/performance that's the key, nVidia is selling to way too select a crowd with their new cards this time.
My only reservation is about Crossfire and how well it'll work out, but I've been using 2x3870s in crossfire for almost a year now and I've had an extremely good experience with it.
If nothing else this is great for the consumers as it's gonna bring about one of my very fave things, a graphics card price war. :) - LMN8R, on 07/01/2008, -0/+12The 4850 runs hot because the fan is running at only 20% speed. With the newest drivers I believe it's possible to make the fan spin faster, cooling the card much better. Same with my 8800GT - default fan speed is only 29% but I can turn it up to 60% and still barely hear it at all.
The 4870, having a dual-slot cooling solution, doesn't have any problems at all at any fan speeds. - SOS84, on 07/01/2008, -5/+17ATI cards also own Nvidia in 2D performance, color accuracy, overall image quality and video acceleration. Finally, an ATI card that I can game on as well as use for work. Sign me up.
- inactive, on 07/01/2008, -0/+10Nice, i would love to see ATI make a comeback, in the last year the cards and support/drivers have really improved. I had constant issues with my nvidia card, i switched to an ati card , and haven't had any problems
- inactive, on 07/01/2008, -18/+28ATI > nVidia
- Arkz, on 07/01/2008, -0/+99600GT is much much much faster than the 8600GT, the 86 is actually only marginally better than the 7600, the 9600 is almost as fast as the 8800GT, it uses the same G92 core, still things like the 9800GTX are kinda daft, it costs much more than an 8800GTX but is barely faster.
- waver01, on 07/01/2008, -1/+94870X2 should already own everything out there, but this is only makes it better for ATI
- MarkusX, on 07/01/2008, -0/+8This is awesome. I'm gonna get one of those boards. However, I hope that more manufacturers will be coming, and the price will drop (at least a little).
- dsmx, on 07/01/2008, -0/+7I was referring to the cheap performance bit, which the GT managed way before ATI brought out the 3xxx and 4xxx series.
- PueSi, on 07/01/2008, -0/+6This card will use custom cooling, most likely watercooling of some sort.
- Kamael, on 07/01/2008, -2/+8[Citation Needed]
- PorkCharSui, on 07/01/2008, -0/+6how about a linux driver that doesn't suck ass ATI? please.
- banmaster, on 07/01/2008, -0/+6Um, the 3870 hasn't been out for a year.
I've just started using them in crossfire though and they do indeed rock! - SonnyW, on 07/01/2008, -0/+5The point is selling cards to people thinking a geforce 9 will be better than their geforce 8. Nvidia made a complete mess of their card naming while ATI finally went with a sane naming scheme.
- EvilLordBanana, on 07/01/2008, -1/+6Have you nvidia fanboys have realized that ati's drivers have been at least as good as nvidia's as of the last 6+ months right?
- Vector713, on 07/01/2008, -0/+5I know right? I could have sworn they had just released them not very long ago at all. Perhaps this digger has access to cards before they're released. He is reviewing them after all...
- YourDoom123, on 07/02/2008, -0/+5That's up to Novell now... and anyone who's able to contribute code. That's why open source kicks ass; its in your hands now.
- iofthestorm, on 07/01/2008, -0/+5Well, to be fair, ATI did the same thing with Radeon 3000 series, essentially just a die shrink, although it was significant in reducing the price and power consumption. But I have to agree, ATI fixed their naming scheme from 3000 series but nVidia is just creating bigger and bigger messes. At least with the 9800GTX they made the improved version the GTX+, but two very different products with the same name makes no sense (I'm talking to you, Geforce 8800GTS).
- trollick, on 07/01/2008, -3/+8Crysis... blah-blah... Vista... blah-blah... Beowulf cluster... blah-blah...
- dylio, on 07/01/2008, -1/+6The 9600GT beats out its 8600GT counterpart. Throw two 9600GTs in SLI and you're pretty much unrivaled in terms of price/performance.
- iofthestorm, on 07/01/2008, -3/+7Seriously, what would you do with a Radeon 4870 on a Mac? It's not like you can play Crysis in OS X, and I don't think WoW needs that much horsepower.
- inactive, on 07/01/2008, -2/+6Every government tells it's people what they can and can't do. It's called the rule of law. The law is created and upheld by the government, not some magical pixie living in a gum drop tree.
You can't run around outside in public naked for example, well you can, but only once, until you're arrested and put into a cell. - ScottDaMan, on 07/02/2008, -0/+4All I know is the idle temps of the 4850/70 is extremely high per the reviews I've seen.
- Tenoq, on 07/02/2008, -0/+49800GTX was a good deal faster than the 8800GT - it was the second-coming of the same board, basically. That's common nVidia practice. Pricing in the US must be different to here, because there was no point buying the 8800GT when the 9800GTX came out. And the 8800 GTX/Ultra was still much dearer than the 9800GTX.
- mrBitch, on 07/02/2008, -0/+3This is one aspect that ATI has always beat Nvidia over : Image Quality & HD TV Out capabilities.
I seriously doubt that ATI would drop the ball in that department with their latest cards. - threemagic, on 07/02/2008, -0/+3@CCmachined: yah the firmware in their newest ATI releases have both PC and Mac versions built in.. rather than selling 2 separate cards.
- CalcProgrammer1, on 07/01/2008, -0/+3Wrong, my old ATi Radeon X1600Pro AGP STILL doesn't work in Linux while my new 8600M GS works flawlessly in Vista and Ubuntu both. No Linux support, no sale. ATi needs to support their cards on all platforms.
- antdude, on 07/01/2008, -0/+3Are there any reviews on the video out stuff on these new ATI/AMD cards? I am upset with NVIDIA's fullscreen display on TV due to incorrect aspect ratios, lack of fullscreen option with 8xxx+ cards, etc. :(
- YourDoom123, on 07/02/2008, -0/+3^ already in the works. All the specs have been released, and Novell is developing the new drivers.
- jgtg32a, on 07/02/2008, -0/+2Wow there are a lot of nVidia fans here
- AdmiralAcbar, on 07/02/2008, -1/+3But only because every ATI card I've ever bought has been a piece of *****. I'd like to go back to them, but after their false advertising on the Radeon 9800se ("Fully supports directx 9.0c" my ass), I just can't trust them.
- YodaJones, on 07/02/2008, -1/+3ATI Rocks! And they support Linux. You go dudes.
- SOS84, on 07/02/2008, -0/+2Maximum PC did a comparison some time ago comparing image quality and color and the ATI cards basically walked all over the Nvidia cards. I am a geographer and I deal with color constantly and accuracy matters, a lot. Very few people in my field choose Nvidia cards over ATI or Matrox and unless it comes bundled, nobody chooses Nvidia. I currently have two computers set up in my home office sharing monitors through a KVM switch. My work desktop has an ATI x800 GTO card in it and my gaming machine has an Nvidia 8800GTS 320MB in right now. Running on the same monitors, I can attest that the x800 trumps the 8800 in 2D image quality and color accuracy. My work computer formerly had an x600pro and an x1650pro in it and compared to the last card in the gaming rig which was a 7900GS, the ATI cards won out. I don't know if the drivers are optimized for FPS versus other functions because the same does not appear to be true for Nvidia's quadro series. The FireGl cards appear better but the difference is not as large.
- TrancePX, on 07/01/2008, -4/+6Yay capitalism!
- adasha, on 07/01/2008, -0/+2They have not said they aren't making high end cards any more, their approach is to develop for the mid-range then scale up for the high end. NVidia is following the traditional route of developing for the high-end then trickling down the technology over time.
- twylight, on 07/01/2008, -2/+4oh please - everyone hates ATI for the drivers - doesnt matter what they put in a card - kinda like Creative Labs.
- antdude, on 07/01/2008, -0/+2Is this still true for VGA connection too via old KVM switch boxes?
- CCmachined, on 07/01/2008, -0/+2where are the benchmarks!?
- krische, on 07/01/2008, -0/+2aww, its so cute. did he steal your diary again?
- smmakira, on 07/02/2008, -0/+2ATI needs to overhaul their drivers and then people will start taking them seriously. The new 48XX line is really impressive. BUT if it had really rockin' drivers people would really start to consider a switch. I'm not just taking windows drivers here, the Linux drivers are laughable at best.
- RawOysters, on 07/02/2008, -0/+1Show me the benchmarks!!
- igob8a, on 07/02/2008, -0/+1GO ATI!
- wolferz, on 07/02/2008, -1/+2Back on the map? When were they off the map? They have been challenging nVidia off and on every year since the first radeons hit shelves. Only the nVidia fanboys will say otherwise.
I personally use nothing but ATI for my machines. The last 3 times I have gone to upgrade my video card (roughly the last 8 years) I have seriously considered nvidia and each time there have been issues that... while unimportant to gaming... would negatively effect other work that I do. Thus ATI has remained pretty much a no brainer for me. In games however the ATI cards have on many cases outperformed the equivalent offerings from nvidia... and there have been many times when they haven't... It's not like nvidia has ever been "the only real choice"... they have just had a bigger following because of the perception they are better for gaming... which is sometimes true and sometimes not... and because ATI is given a lot of flak because of driver issues they had back in the Rage/Rage Pro/Rage 128 days (and for those that actually care, because their proprietary drives on Linux have, historically, always sucked). - digiwand, on 07/04/2008, -0/+1Yeah, I do get them a bit early....ATi lovers me good. :)
But you're right, it hasn't quite been a year, I suck with time. I got the 3870s last fall right after the Lake Tahoe event.
Sorry, my bad. -
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