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- n0odles, on 05/15/2008, -3/+52Naming the board a Trojan is superb marketing.
- raptor87, on 05/15/2008, -1/+33my 9800 pro>4800 oh wait... whats with the naming strategies these days?
- dbzssj44676, on 05/15/2008, -1/+30Thank you for posting some tech news
- dudefaceguyman, on 05/15/2008, -1/+27I really hope AMD/ATI starts getting back in the game. They've been getting beat down by Nvidia and Intel year after year. I miss the days of AMD Athlon's and early Athlon 64's beating down Pentiums, and Radeon Series cards laughing at the face of Nvidia's offerings. *sigh*
- Nacon, on 05/15/2008, -0/+12"For Europe, things are more lenient, since nobody works in August"
Really?
I haven't noticed that yet... - avisgoth, on 05/15/2008, -0/+12It's a codename, not the actual name that will be marketed.
- bjornski, on 05/15/2008, -1/+14X850? You've gotten yours time out f that card!
I went from an X1300 to an HD2600XT, and I"m happy. But this new card looks droolworthy.
/Been with ATI since my 9550, and no matter how many machines I play on that have Nvidia, there's no way I'd switch. - da_bradler, on 05/15/2008, -2/+15Maybe they will finally come out with something that can beat Nvidias year and a half old 8800GT. Maybe then Nvidia will release a new card and discontinue 8800 architecture seeing as there are over 20 cards on the market based off it.
And don't even say "oh they have a 9800 GT now, the 9800 is just a 8800 GTS 512MB that is overclocked to high hell" - AdmiralAcbar, on 05/15/2008, -1/+9Grammar good be yours.
- YojimboJango, on 05/15/2008, -2/+9Everyone can be as critical as you like, however this from the article:
AMD decided to remain aggressive in an effort to win back market share. Pricing is actually set to a point where Nvidia is unlikely to be able to compete (that is at least what somebody is hoping for). Pricing guidelines are not finalized at this time, but according to several sources, the Radeon 4850 will succeed the 3850 512MB and should cost about $189-$219 at launch. Our sources indicated that 4870 GDDR5 cards will cost between $249 and $279, but somehow we feel that AMD might aim go for $199 and $249 at launch. - copperteeth, on 05/15/2008, -0/+7Hmm this was probably a bad time for me to buy a 9600GT :/ If only this article had come out a week earlier!
- lordtyros, on 05/15/2008, -1/+7Go back to your console, Frappman
- agisten, on 05/15/2008, -3/+13Once 4800 will come out, I think It'll about time I shall replace my old X850
- warriorscot, on 05/15/2008, -0/+5x850 was a kick ass card, so was the x800 they were great performers at a cheap price. They could hold their own for a long time the only bad thing they had was they didn't use SM3 which didnt affect performance but started to hurt last year with SM4 games not supporting it.
- Tenoq, on 05/15/2008, -0/+7I like ATi - my 9700 was the ONLY card I've owned that was stable for it's entire life. In that time I've had 3 Ti4200s, 6800GT, 7950GT and now a 9800GTX (which is still ok... but give it a few months it'll ***** up). You think I'd learn and stop buying nVidia... but the ATi cards just never seem to be in stock when I'm shopping. :(
- NanoStuff, on 05/15/2008, -1/+6Can't wait for Radeon 5800 Backdoor and Rootkit.
- inactive, on 05/15/2008, -1/+5Isn't the 8800GT less than a year old? It's the 320MB/640MB 8800GTS that is a year and a half old.
- shrewduser, on 05/15/2008, -2/+7are we thinking things out loud and in comment form on digg now are we?
- rlombardo, on 11/05/2008, -1/+5I'm still running an X850xt. I'm thinking it's time to send that and my Athlon 64 2800+ to the museum.
- doshindude, on 05/15/2008, -1/+4i'm pretty sure this product will turn off stupid people from buying it thinking their piece of HARDWARE will be a virus.
- inactive, on 05/15/2008, -2/+6What marketing genius named it "Trojan"? lolz
- praisethelard, on 06/06/2008, -0/+4I have a 7800GTX that I've been running on this comp for a few years. No problems at all.
- dsmx, on 05/15/2008, -1/+5Read the article it says that the GT200 is being launched before the 4800.
- mythicflux, on 05/15/2008, -0/+3The 8800GT was released October 29th 2007. It's just over 6 months old.
- DivineComedy, on 05/15/2008, -0/+3Isn't that an option with all graphics cards? :S
- bjornski, on 05/15/2008, -0/+3Everyone I know with computer problems is running Nvidia.
/knocks on his desk - CoolGoose, on 05/15/2008, -1/+3Am i the only one that thinks about the trojan war when somebody mentions trojan ?
- mintblogger, on 05/15/2008, -4/+7If they will be launched after Nvidia's GT model, then it's not a good strategy.
- stuffradio, on 05/16/2008, -0/+2I still have an NVIDIA 6600GT lol.
Are the ATI cards really that much better than NVIDIA!? I am thinking about buying this when it comes out. :) - longbow486, on 05/15/2008, -0/+2I'm still running my Sapphire X850XT, which had replaced my 9500 that lasted a good 4 years. The only thing with that card was that it made burn marks in the floppy power connector :-(
- gutistg, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1Just press the button.
- Kranklin, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1now it just seems that much more suspicious..... i'm going to use hardware that was code-named torjan? sounds like the air-force is in on this one, trying to hack into every computer there is....
- PueSi, on 05/15/2008, -1/+2I hope the performance claims are real this time, getting that much performance on a single GPU solution would be amazing.
- hosehead16, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1Because spending all of 2 minutes switching around settings is just the end of the ***** world.
- bjornski, on 05/15/2008, -1/+2True, true. Not everyone who runs Nvidia runs into problems. But the people that are running into problems, almost always, have an Nvidia card in their machine. I've never had any difficulties with an ATI card. Ever.
- inactive, on 05/15/2008, -5/+6Your 9800 is a regular 9800, the 4800 is an "hd" 4800, making it a regular 14,800. Or a 14 series card, versus a 9 series card.
- bjornski, on 05/15/2008, -1/+3Yeah, that kind of irked me too.
But then my school's mascot was the trojan.
/yes, heard all the condom jokes. Homecoming was full of inflated ones being used as balloons. - Volkor, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1Does it really matter which company is the underdog? In the end it's about performance and price. If AMD can release a competitive card then it will bring down the prices on the nVidia ones, and everybody wins. What exactly makes AMD's brand more preferable than Intel and nVidia's?
- potterboy, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1Was just thinking that.
- praisethelard, on 06/06/2008, -0/+1That sounds a lot more like consoles, to me.
- bjornski, on 05/16/2008, -0/+1I've always had good luck with them. The one issue that I'll admit they do have is that their first revision or two of the drivers for any new card they put out can be twitchy. They'll work, if you work around it, but it's normally patched up within a few weeks with driver revisions (which ATI is actually pretty good about).
Performance-wise? I can't complain. I don't know if it'll play Crysis (no interest in game, *shrugs*). But it does everything I want, very well, and reliably.
Add in the cost-point, and it just gives ATI too many benefits to not at least consider. - ChileanGoD, on 05/19/2008, -0/+1I still play with my 9600XT.
- Dominicc2003, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1Was I the only one expecting a "homecoming" joke?
- purplehaze420, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1YOU ARE CRAZY!
- bjornski, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1I really should go grocery shopping.....
- inactive, on 05/15/2008, -0/+1Sweet name for the card! The fact that I'm Macedonian and am named after Alexander the Great has nothing to do with my opinion of the name -_-
- Druckles, on 05/27/2008, -0/+0There seem to be far too many people criticizing the new numbering scheme of ATi/AMD when they don't appear to have really looked into it. As you seem aware, the old Radeons used numbers like 7500 and 9800 with suffixes like pro, ultra and all this jazz. But recently, in the past couple of years, ATi realised they'd run out of numbers and so came up with this new scheme.
You might say they're "going backwards", but then surely Adobe are going as backwards with their products, going from Photoshop 6 and 7 to CS1, 2 and 3 all of a sudden? There's no need to critisize the naming of their products, as it doesn't take too long to understand.
The new naming convention relies on prefixes to distinguish from their older ancestors. Similarly to Adobe's CSs, ATi are now working on the "HD" series with products like the HD38xx and the HD48xx, so anything with HD on the front will most likely agree with this scheme. They also released an HD2xxx series, but no-one paid too much attention. The first number of the four is the series, or age of the card, where the higher numbers are newer models. The second is, as far as I can tell, the platform, similar to AMD and Intel mobile solutions. Finally, the last two digits represent what used to be the suffix. I'm not entirely sure why they chose "50" and "70", but that's equivalent to your old XTs and Pros.
I hope that cleared any confusion with anyone.
As for the card itself, it certainly looks schmexeh. I'd buy it myself, if I hadn't bought my 3870 three months ago... - viper001, on 05/16/2008, -0/+0But the question is, will it be able to run Battletoads?
- bjornski, on 05/15/2008, -1/+1I could give your 2800+ a good home. It can replace my Duron 1.3ghz as a file server, and sit right next to my 4200+.
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