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- Koppie, on 06/16/2008, -16/+90I for one welcome our new GPU overlords.
- Xanium4332, on 06/16/2008, -2/+69Congratulations, you've just created the best digg-down combo ever...
Off-topic, incorrect, Microsoft promoting, open-source insulting. Now that's a record. - trollick, on 06/16/2008, -11/+72I predict that within 100 years, computers will be twice as powerful, 10,000 times larger, and so expensive that only the five richest kings of Europe will own them.
- gr00, on 06/16/2008, -7/+635 TFlops? Still not enough to process all the junk on MySpace pages :)
- Izacus, on 06/16/2008, -2/+54Man, anyone with basic knowledge of computer architecture knows, that GPU and CPU aren't really comparable. GPU can't do most of CPU's operations. However it is really really fast at those that it is capable of.
- ssj2119, on 06/16/2008, -4/+39why would you compare it to 1996 tech? that's just laughable.
- ihavebeenseen, on 06/16/2008, -6/+41can they boot up win 2000?
- theaverageidiot, on 06/16/2008, -3/+33Awesome! I can now render virtual 3D porn with 25,000 speed as I could in 1996!
- benologist, on 06/16/2008, -1/+30The most amazing thing is that they haven't been doing it all along....
- xerox, on 06/16/2008, -1/+27The Playstation had a MIPS R3000A at 33 MHz, no it certainly can't compare to the processing power of 'today's consumer computer'.
- inactive, on 06/16/2008, -2/+24No, which is why this article (not that I read it, I read the summary) is stupid. GPU's aren't general purpose processors. They can't run Windows, and they can't run Linux either (at least, not very well, it would be slower than on a Pentium Pro). You can't compare something like FLOPS on a GPU and a CPU and get anything meaningful out of it. There are probably DSP's that get even higher than this, but again, it's meaningless if you're comparing it to a general-purpose CPU.
- inactive, on 06/16/2008, -0/+21She has... in the last five years she's gotten five years older.
- Zaeboes, on 06/16/2008, -0/+21Yes, yes it will.
- tito13kfm, on 06/16/2008, -0/+21Seriously, an on topic Simpsons quote gets dugg down? WTF
- jayzeus, on 06/16/2008, -2/+22Good news, everyone!
- simpleid, on 06/16/2008, -2/+21not true. a gpu can execute any operation a cpu can. gpu's are really engineered to deal with inherent constraints of a cpu's sequential execution limitations (inefficient). gpu's how ever can more efficiently execute algorithms designed to work with information stored in two dimensions, hence it's a lot more efficient than a cpu for image processing, dsp, various analysis and certain aspect of physics equations.
for example, when you want to iteratively perform a calculation on a large number of values in some dataset, a gpu can perform the operation in groups of that set simultaneously, where the cpu would have to align the data in to a series and perform one operation at a time.
sometimes though you can't perform all of the calculations you want and get all your end-results in a single pass, gpu applications have to be designed in an awkward fashion occasionally (at least until you're used to it), to pass data through multiple times until it 'converges' to the result you expect. (there's some mandelbrot algorithms design this way for example, most older gpus would fail entirely to attempt that.) ... actually... that's how almost all gpu applications work because usually you're expressing something over time, like particle motion... so yea. still there's a difference in what i meant to address and that.
sorry if that was confusing or incoherent /drunk - p3ngwin, on 06/16/2008, -0/+17the Adobe acceleration won't be ATI exclusive. Nvidia cards will also be supported.
- xerox, on 06/16/2008, -0/+17http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Roadrunner
"Roadrunner is a supercomputer built by IBM at the Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico, USA. Currently the world's fastest computer, the US$133-million Roadrunner is designed for a peak performance of 1.7 petaflops, achieving 1.026 on May 25, 2008,[1][2][3] and to be the world's first TOP500 Linpack sustained 1.0 petaflops system. It is a one-of-a-kind supercomputer, built from commodity parts, with many novel design features." - DLuckyE, on 06/16/2008, -1/+18Have you tried playing quake lately?
- Farik, on 06/16/2008, -6/+22How about AMD gets back to making a decent GPU and CPU chip rather than comparing a quad-GPU solution to a CPU that is 12 years old?
- CasinoJack, on 06/16/2008, -1/+16Judging by this guy's other posts, I think he's going for a bury record: "go riaa, diggers are ***** stupid socialist ***** who think they can get anything for free".
- inactive, on 06/16/2008, -4/+18It runs Linux BECAUSE it can't boot Windows 2000?
I hope you are not that stupid. Do you think they built a $100 million computer, over the course of months, and slapped a Windows 2000 CD in there, saw it didn't boot, and thought "Oh *****, what else can we run??"
You are a retard. - superjunaid, on 06/16/2008, -10/+24This power will be used by the upcoming Adobe's CS4 applications package where Photoshop, After Effects will use the power of the graphics cards. So awsome!
- trispear, on 06/16/2008, -0/+12GPUs are much better than CPUs at a small subset of tasks (not necessarily just graphics, but solved in a similiar manner)... but they are limited to that subset while general purpose CPUs are not. That is basically the whole point of having a generalized chips and specialized chips.
You really can't compare them completely. - inactive, on 06/16/2008, -2/+13I'm surprised this joke hasn't gotten old yet.
- wedges, on 06/16/2008, -1/+12i don't think that is correct. PS1 had a 33Mhz MIPS R3000A RISC processor, 2MB RAM, and 1MB Video RAM. That doesn't sound as powerful as even a basic 1.8GHz Core Duo Dell machine.
- whatthehell9, on 06/16/2008, -0/+10since this is all theoretical, I say: still not as powerful as 1 Flux Capacitor
- Rally603, on 06/16/2008, -0/+10***** Myspace.
- Izacus, on 06/16/2008, -0/+10Technically yes, you can pretty much realize almost everything the CPU can do on the GPU. But for some of those things you'd have to jump through alot of hoops and burn a whole lot of GPU cycles, making such solution alot slower than to just let it run on the CPU.
I'm not saying that GPUs arent capable of outperforming CPUs on specific problems, it's just that most people see that kind of article and think that CPUs will be replaced by GPUs soon. - wonkavsn, on 06/17/2008, -1/+11Yeah except it'll be much easier to get 25,000 Pentium Pros running under Linux than one ATi GPU
Even for Windows, ATi's drivers kinda blow - gavroche, on 06/16/2008, -13/+22But, will it run Crysis?
- leerayIG88, on 06/16/2008, -1/+10I wonder If I could afford them 2 years from now.
- SpectralSounds, on 06/16/2008, -3/+12I can hardly wait to see how many buries you get. I'm sure I won't be too far behind you.
- Aadain, on 06/16/2008, -0/+9Probably never. The hardware requirements would basically be two physical chips under one package, if you want the performance of the current best-of-class products. That would really screw with the thermal envelope though since GPU logic generates a lot of heat since most of the chip is on at the same time to processes the massive amounts of graphic data. If you want to add *some* vector processing features to today's CPUs, there are plenty of chips out there that already have this feature.
- Zeddd, on 06/16/2008, -1/+9Hmm, why didn't they just say 1 ATI GPU = 6250 Pentium Pro CPUs.... ??
I guess they do mention that one is equal to "more than 5000". Pretty amazing how technology progresses! - benologist, on 06/16/2008, -0/+8I wouldn't, the feds are watching and MySpace lies about it's age.
- Prescottonian, on 06/16/2008, -1/+8What materials would hold the heat? Don't know about your GPU but mine is unbelievably hot (55+C) and putting it next to the second hottest item = problems.
- jarbro, on 07/23/2009, -1/+8or 1,000,000 8088's...
- Aero347, on 06/16/2008, -1/+8Still lacks the overclocking abilities of my sweet Pentium Pro.. I could overclock that baby from 100mhz to 166mhz.. a 66% performance increase just by using my turbo button.
- ausfahrt, on 06/16/2008, -0/+7It was on the front page a couple times how did you miss it IBM Roadrunner.
- inactive, on 06/16/2008, -2/+8because then we couldn't say.....
"IT'S OVER 9000!" - diggduggDOOM, on 06/16/2008, -0/+6Got a problem with Prof. Frink? He's even got a theme song:
"Professor Frink, Professor Frink,
He'll make you laugh, he'll make you think,
He likes to run, and then the thing,
with the... mm-m person...
Oh boy, that monkey is going to pay." - Aadain, on 06/16/2008, -0/+6GPU = multiple data, signal/multiple instruction or vector processors. They are great for massively parallel operations such as applying shading or geometry operations since each piece of data is (more or less) independent of all other data; ie, the more processing units you throw at the problem, the faster is gets solved.
CPU = generic processor, with conditional loops and interdependent data flows. Simply throwing more processors at the problem won't necessarily speed anything up since there might be a large amount of conditional dependence and data dependence between instructions.
So while both do floating point operations, they are targeted at drastically different problems. It's why CPUs aren't very good at performing graphic calculations (not setup to take advantage of parallel data), and GPUs aren't very good at general computation tasks (only one or two processing unit active at a time). - yaosio, on 06/16/2008, -0/+6Content rises linearly, not exponentially.
- Inflammo, on 06/16/2008, -3/+9Can anything?
- nullx42, on 06/16/2008, -1/+7...and go back to on-board with shared memory? no thank you sir. DooM Is fun as hell, but I need me some Country-Stake: Sauce
- tfrans, on 06/16/2008, -2/+7Can't wait to download it...
- GeneralFault, on 06/16/2008, -1/+6I'll help him out with that one today. But by blocking him he may be easily ignored in the future.
- BingeBoy, on 06/16/2008, -0/+5good one fanboy.
- zephyr42, on 06/16/2008, -2/+7AMD is doing good things with the late ATI branch.
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