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- I8PP, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Well I don't know about you lot, but if this law passes I'm sneaking over to Japan to rumage through some bins.
- DadOFeD, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Did Ya notice it starts on April 1st. April fools.....
- stealthboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Oh, the RIAA and MPAA would just *love* to have something like that here. They way when they lobby to get DRM tech in everything, they don't have to worry about people still buying old equipment to get around their DRM restrictions.
- szelij, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I don't think it'd happen. They won't ban the sale outright. You have to remember consumer sentiment and rationality. They can get away with car inspections on the pretext of road safety but to do away with second hand sales is just asking for voters to kick you out of office.
No sane politician would endorse a blanket ban with explicit language. - tazamore, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Readers gullible,
Wind passes through empty heads,
Link is *****. - supersteve, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1wow that sucks
- h0dg3s, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1tazamore said "Readers gullible,
Wind passes through empty heads,
Link is *****.
"
close but that's 5 - 7 - 4, could say "The link is *****" - worufu, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2How many sane politicians are there nowadays anyway? They are getting all away with limiting and reducing our rights. All in the name of terrorism or some other reason they like to quote. I can show you many examples within the nearest past.
And then it is Japan where not everything (probably nothing) is the same like outside Japan. Probably our "sane" politicians would not do it... - SPNKrPunk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Attention Americans: It could be ***** worse (see article).
"Most electronics from 2001 are junk anyhow."
I have a Minolta Maxxum 7000 from 1985; still takes good pictures. Not all pre-2001 tech is useless, especially in terms of cars. - Ghazi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Corporate greediness taken to a whole new level
- HeyArnold, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Japanese junk from 2001... = New to the US market in 2006 :p
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Have a look at : http://digg.com/hardware/2nd_hand_electronic_sales_will_NOT_be_made_illegal_in_Japan.
- LordJezo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The link is not telling the whole story:
http://www.mutantfrog.com/2006/02/22/2nd-hand-electronics-sales-will-not-soon-be-illegal-in-japan/
Don't worry about anything. - letmereplynow, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Well, look at this way, Japan will continue leading the world in terms of electronics. I wish the USA was as Tech savvy.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It's just another rule that will be ignored... there's a lot of those in Japan (which is not nearly as "conformist" as people are told).
- cemsity, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@ Lemereplynow
the reason why people in USA arn't tech savy is because they think they don't need it. it was like this for tivo with my parents they thought we did not need it but when we got it they LOVE it. - greenemeansgo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This may be an attempt to eliminate analog devices - it's happening in the US too. Makers want all digital ins/outs so you can't circumvent DRM.
- Stopher, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1The car thing is insane. A 10 year old car is effectively taxed 3500 EUR / year. Talk about throwing the environment out the window.
- cntp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0wtf
- AngryWookiee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1This is the most ridiculous thing that I have ever heard. Why in the hell would any sane person let the government pass a law like this. This just plain stupid.
The government should not be able to pass a law that would make selling second hand goods illegal. Some people can't afford the latest and greatest products and have to buy used goods. What the hell do they expect people to do with all their old electronics? Just throw them in the garbage even though they are perfectly fine, when you could possibly sell them and make some money of them?
Although I can see how they might get away the used car thing for safety, etc. this is just plain stupid. Don't people in Japan buy used cars? Don't people make a living selling used cars. This is retarded. - ajamer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0More likely than being tossed, the equipement will be sold to nearby Asian countries for cheap.
I remember in Singapore that they don't allow taxis on the road that are more than 4 years old. The old ones all get sold to Thailand. - Sirocco, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1>> Well, look at this way, Japan will continue leading the world
>> in terms of electronics. I wish the USA was as Tech savvy.
>>
No, Japan will continue to take technology created by other countries and figure out how to cram it into a smaller housing. That's what they do, and they're good at it. - ericpp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Wild accusations with no proof to back it up... sounds like BS to me.
- anamanaman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I guess thats one way to boost GDP. For some reason I dont think it'll work though....
- DarkZen, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@worufu Well said...
This just seems pointless, why would they do something like that? Don't they know that some people like to blow their money on older equipment? Its not like old electronics are evil or anything, not to mention wouldn't this effect the economy in some way? (And not a good one...) - cvirt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Big deal! It's not going to affect anything is my guess. If the government really tries to enforce anything, used dealers will just institute something like how the pachislo parlours get around anti-gambling laws. You buy a token, and then exchange the token for whatever it is you want. This article is complete crap since it doesn't reference anything in english or japanese saying what exactly the law states or when it comes into effect (i saw another website where it was said the law went into effect 3 years ago). And just to add, i heard the law was coming into effect because of regulations governing lead based (soldered) items.
c - DeckardRep, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I thought second hand video game sale were already illegal in Japan. At least, I remember reading something along those lines in the 90's...
- GreenSlabOfClay, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Actually, the thinking may be to shorten the life of older equipment so they can pedle more new equipment. A small, but growing market of people probably are satisfied with older technology.
Which, in a technological singularity, can lead to a break down in conventional market models.
Case in point:
I bought a PowerMac 9600 for my Asterisk server.
Cost $26
Don't need no fancy Nortel, Cisco or Dell Server.
On the converse, don't they have a restriction on exporting new technology so that old inventory has a chance to sell? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0BEST QUOTE: "...security reasons on anything electronical."
- letmereplynow, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0@cemsity
I know that too and to be honest for the most part people aren't smart enough to use something more complex than a dvd player efficiently. Then another issue is the current pop culture and it emphasis on money….ill stop here because I could go on all day about what I think is wrong with society.
This stems to another issue that is wrong with Windows computers, if everyone's' windows computer that is sold came locked down(limited rights/permissions). We wouldn't have half the computers problems we have now, it's not like teach how to properly work a computer in school at all(they should) because at least the next generation would be prepared...sorry im done ranting lol. - matt4077, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I don't really trust this report. This seems totally against anything what a free society is about. The only reason I could see would be changes in radio frequencies forcing government to forbid sales of equipment that operates in an old spectrum and could cause interference.
- stuge, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Thank Good I`m Living In India ......
This is foolish. Do this in any part of the world and see how consumers are going to put these stupid & greedy companies in court .
.Japanese government might be getting something from these companies . - acontorer, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0There is no source cited in this article, and on a quick Google search I was unable to find another article (in English) confirming this. I wonder if it's true.
- RickySan65, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0lot of commotion over a april fools joke.. nice buildup though ;)
- pgm_01, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I call BS on this article. Considering that Japan will be importing electronic waste for recycling. http://www.crisscross.com/jp/news/364814
- DisposableRob, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1"the reason why people in USA arn't tech savy is because they think they don't need it. it was like this for tivo with my parents they thought we did not need it but when we got it they LOVE it. "
Think about that for a second. Does anyone NEED a Tivo? Need and want are very seperate things. - Squeebee, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Bah, this affects nothing. Having lived in Japan I can tell you that most people throw out perfectly good used electronics after 5 years anyway, they even have a special garbage day once a month for larger items. I have grabbed washing machines, stereos, DVD players, and even year-old cellphones (new in box). The used electronics market is tiny and there are relatively few used shops compared to North America.
While it is a silly law, it only puts into law what most people already do: throw away old electronics.
No need to dumpster dive, once a month they put it on the curb for you. - cathode, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I feel for the small shops in Akihabara
- AshMCairo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0OK. Where is this official document? Also, did anyone else notice that the day they're set to enforce this is April Fool's Day?
- ironbear, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Actually, there's an interesting export market of used Japanese vehicles which resulted as the result of the tight vehicular laws. Perhaps we'll be seeing more of their old electronics on eBay.
- PacoBell, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0AngryWookiee said "This is the most ridiculous thing that I have ever heard."
You post got a +1 from me for being able to spell "ridiculous" correctly, as opposed to "rediculous"! Kudos! - mailman-zero, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This probably won't affect too many native Japanese. I had a friend who lived there for a couple of years and he said that you would often see perfectly good electronic equipment on the curb for trash pickup just because it was old and its owner had purchased something newer that supplanted it.
Incidentally, it's also illegal to take said electronics from the curb unless you are the trash collector and are demolishing it. - spiderland, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Where are the REFERENCES for the article? I don't see any mentioned.
- bokaratom, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0It might reduce sales of new products. If I can't sell my old TV I might not buy a new one.
- JangoFett, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Also, did anyone else notice that the day they're set to enforce this is April Fool's Day?"
In Japan, the corporate business year starts on April 1st. - jayf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Did anyone notice this headline has nothing to do with the actual content of the article in question?
People can resell their electronics guilt free.
Only stores are forbidden from selling complicated electronics (high voltage stuff with the type of circuits elctronics hobbyists couldn't make heads or tails out of) older than 2001 for safety reasons. They've been given 5 years advanced warning to this effect. - stuge, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0At the top It already says
Warning: The Content in this Article is Under Review:
Weired!!!!!! - muzikandpics, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0wow Sony pulls another one, just like the graffiti of the PSP.
- sirfrancisbacon, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0
"Hey man, got some TI-82s. Real primo if you know what i mean." -
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