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- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Wow, very good review, I needed this, as I am looking into buying a new CPU Heatsink/Fan Cooling solution.
Good post. - kitejumping, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3thermaltake sonic tower is great... with a 12cm fan mounted i think it rivals most watercooling...
it does require some space in your case though
http://www.thermaltake.com/images/coolers/ComboCool/cl-p0071SonicTower/onMBenlarged.jpg - Psychoboy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I used a 3rd party cooling solution on my Intel processor which was boxed and had the 3rd warranty... had a couple probs with it and they replaced it no prob. all I had to send back was the CPU itself
- jmke, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I tested the AMD stock all aluminum one you get with most lower/mid-end A64 CPUs and also tested the newer heat pipe equipped AMD HSF which you get with dual core (X2) starting from 4200+
- drag, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Hell ya.
I have recently just bought a Scythe Ninja. They are HUGE tower style heatsink with 6 heatpipes bent in a U shape. (so you have effectively 12 heatpipes transfering heat to the cooling surfaces.)
see: http://www.silentpcreview.com/article251-page1.html
It's massive. I showed a friend this and told him I got a big heatsink. He said "So it must be realy large, eh?". I told him basicly yes it is very large but it's much larger then he thinks it is. Then I showed him it and he was still suprised with how gigantic it is. If you have a case that is thinner then 7.5 inches then it probably won't fit.
I bought a case specificly for it and used the included 12 cm fan as the rear fan blowing out. I then took some thin cardboard from a Dr Pepper 12 pack and made a sort of duct out of it. Then I hooked the fan to a fan controller at the lowest setting.
That and the heatsink fan are the only fans in the case.
I am getting something insane like 16C idle and 24C or so on load. And it's so quiet that you have to stop and concentrate on it to discern the noise from the fan from the normal ambient noise in the house. Keep in mind that this is a Pentium-D 920 system... Don't plan on overclocking it as I don't use it for gaming and it's blazing fast. (just have onboard video anyways)
Dual cores do wonders for audio latency... I have my Jackd sound server (using qjackctl) set around 11 msec latency and I had it lower then that, but I would experiance xruns when starting and stopping applications that hooked into jack. And I am not even running any low latency patches yet either. Just running the normal Debian 2.6.16-686-smp kernel from unstable. Absolutely wonderfull, I am running loads that would completely bog down my older machine (2400+ amd), but this one doesn't even blink a eye, even with very heavy disk access. Can't wait to see what it can do with some realtime-preempt patches...
At night when I turn out all the lights to watch a movie or something it is almost eerie not hearing my computer's fan wine.
Almost bought that Scythe fan that they have in the review for this posted article, and I doubt I would of been dissapointed. - coolguy69, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3full article without paging: http://www.madshrimps.be/printart.php?articID=419
- DougTanner, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Currently using the Scythe Ninja with a 118 CFM fan, 28C at idle and 34C at full. And this is with a massively overclocked Opteron 165.
- Zippo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I have an all-copper Zalman (CNPS7000B-CU) on my P4. It's a beautiful little thing - works amazingly well. When idle, my CPU is always in the low 40s (Celcius - around 110F). During full-load, it rarely even gets to 60C (140F)
- TugsMcgroin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Cut and paste from the end of the article that quote was...
- AMDnVidiaATi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I digg it guys. I have the AC Freezer 64 Pro so that's pretty cool.
- jshpro2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1How could they possibly prove that I used a different cooling system? All I have to do is scrape off my arctic silver and ship it to them for replacement
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Excuse me, rivals most watercooling? You sir, are sorely mistaken. Maybe a Thermaltake Bigwater...
- Castaa, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Extreme Tech has totally different results for some of the coolers. I wonder if the differences caused by thermal grease application?
Horizontal Cooler Showdown
http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0%2C1697%2C1951476%2C00.asp - Cronos, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Great timing. I am looking to upgrade my CPU heat sink, and I was wondering how the Zalman fan stacked up to the rest of the competition.
- igorparsadanov, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1That is most ridiculous thing I have ever seen! OK where do I get one.
- Castaa, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1FYI, AMD ships two different stock coolers with their 754/939 socket CPUs. The 'stock' one tested in the article is obviously the better model of the two types. The low end cooler is really bad compared to virtually any 3rd party cooler.
- LNahid2000, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I have an older Zalman HSF and it's super quiet. My only beef with it is that dust gets stuck in the fins on the heatsink so I have to clean it out every month or so. It seems like the fins are shaped the same way on the CNPS9500CU so it might have the same problem. Maybe my room is just dusty and the fact that my computer is on the floor.
- jmke, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1socketA.asp
that's for last generation hardware dude :p
+ heatsink tested outside a case tend to scale differently when heat goes up, case cooling is a vital part of the equation and some cooler designs just work better inside a case then others. when you test a HSF outside a case you won't find these differences - jmke, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I guess the "AMD stock" and "AMD heatpipe HSF" is not your defintion of "default cooling" ;-)
- SuperFarStucker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I can believe it pulls a 10 C - 12 C delta over ambient at modest clock/voltage combinations. Watercooling only runs away from air when the cooling capacity of the heatsink is saturated and most clock/voltage combinations won't achieve that. One good jolt and you might be out a board from the look of that monster though. You can only cool the water to ambient and the interface will usually put a 10-12 c delta on top of that, even with a G5 storm.
- wweasel, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2I agree with Zippo. Though I don't have experience with the other heatsinks out there, I use a Zalman CNPS7000B-AlCu on my A64 3700+ home theatre PC. No OCing, I dialed down the speed controller completely and it keeps my PC running cool without a whisper of noise. Definitely a good heatsink in my books.
- Spybot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0zalman rocks. I just built a new machine and used that giant hunk of copper and even at majo load the temp hasn't gone over 44. i wouldn't use anything else.
- ucg1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1ThermalRight XP-120 is the best if you want quiet cooling. Can't beat having a 120mm fan, especially a very quiet one that still pushes a decent amount of air. Make sure you have enough space in your case, though, it's pretty huge.
- cakefart, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Absolutely... my only complaint is that it weighs a ton.
Can't wait to move it off my current home server onto a Conroe setup this summer. - doit3d, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Better reviews:
http://www.overclockers.com/articles373/socketA.asp - CharlesDarwin, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1But they didn't test the stock cooling. :(
- Satertek, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Thermalright all the way. It's all the packaging, haha. And definately the best looking heatsinks out there.
I've got a XP-90 for my CPU and a V-1 for my GPU.
Never even have to crank the CPU fan over a few hundred RPMs to keep the CPU under 40C. - TugsMcgroin, on 10/12/2007, -6/+4"Do always remember that you’ll violate your CPU’s warranty when you use a third party cooling solution."
- kolop1, on 10/12/2007, -14/+5spam
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