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- kingkilr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+56"Let's face it, we're not changing the world. We're building a product that helps people buy more crap - and watch porn."
-Seagate CEO - nixonrichard, on 10/12/2007, -1/+22"Western Digital rocks!"
Looks like somebody just got Western Digital bed sheets for Christmas.
I use two hard drives. One is small and fast and I use it for holding application data, scratch files, etc. The other is gigantic and slow and I use it for movies (mostly pornographic movies) - Ray_Justice, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14Man, only Tom's Hardware would have an 18 page article on hard drives. That website has an unimaginable wealth of information.
- MrZop, on 10/12/2007, -0/+10I Just want Solid State HDDs. I don't care if they are only 80-100GBs each.
- kingkilr, on 10/12/2007, -5/+13Tom's is notorious for being among the most biased and inaccurate websites.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8I avoid reading Tom's Hardware. There are numerous other sites that provide tech information that you can trust and can use. I remember the 90's and how badly Tom's Hardware reported almost everything.
- FunkyWitDaSysTm, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8law of diminishing returns. dead-end technology. time for innovation.
- pairanoyd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5In the address line of your browser add print.html to the end of the toms hardware URL and hit enter.
You get the entire article on one page with no ads! - biohzrd, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Wow, I never realized how much people thought TH was biased..... I haven't seen any bias recently...any links to backup such claims?
- manitoba98xp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4@MrESaulved
RAID 0 is striping. It allows you to combine multiple physical volumes to create one virtual volume (with the added benefit of performance). I believe _that_ is to what he was referring. Even if he _were_ talking about RAID 1 (mirroring), there would still be advantages. Solidstate drives could still fail, require maintenance, require upgrading, etc. RAID 1 is still helpful. - Kanna, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Tom's Hardware article alert. Marked as lame.
- AReallyGoodName, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3"Man, only Tom's Hardware would have an 18 page article on hard drives"
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out over 18 pages - OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I think Tom's was where I first learned about overclocking methods back in the 90s. They were one of the first hardware websites and demystified a lot of the crap that magazines like PC World were spewing.
Sad to hear that Tom has fallen off the wagon. - FunkyWitDaSysTm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2need? who said need? in _theory_ it could be awesome. with enormous amounts of bandwidth and high enough bus speed. i never said need, but if raid (or something comparable) could be applied to solid-state memory storage, it would compound the benefits even more.
i'm more referring to the abstract of multiplexed data streaming and how it could benefit flash technology. - culbeda, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2They lost their reputation years ago as soon as they started accepting advertising from brands they were reviewing. And, mysteriously enough, the advertisers' products tended to fair better in TH reviews than on those of other sites. (Anandtech, etc.)
as for drives, you can get reviews on any drive that matters on http://www.storagereview.com. They have comparisons based on several sets of benchmarks including everything from office performance to concurrent IO server performance. And they also review drives based on important non-performance metrics, such as heat and noise. Seriously, I have yet to find a reason to go anywhere else for drive reviews. That's all they do and they do it damned well. - DASH, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Now I like a great review just like the next guy but DAMN does it need to be spanned out over 18 PAGES? Don't these guys know how short the attention span of a digg user is? Ad block Plus saves the day again...
- FunkyWitDaSysTm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@tek, i know, but good point. i'm just saying that companies are beating magneto/optical storage to it's physical limits. in fact, i am amazed at the amount of innovation that has been accomplished in extending the life of this technology almost 5-8 years past it's logical end-of life. fortunately most people didn't need data to transfer so quickly (outside of an enterprise environment) until now-ish.
now that we're pushing new areas of development, they should be the priority, not extending (yet again), a dead-end technology that is the single biggest performance bottleneck in most computer set-ups. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1@manitobaxp98
Again, you would see no increase in speed with striping RAM! Striping only works on mechanical hard drives, to make up for the vastly slower physical mechanism that is required to access the storage element on the platter. In solid state, the rows and columns are always accessible compared to the delay of disk rotation.
Mirroring is just as pointless, you don't need to mirror RAM. Mirroring is to anticipate the eventual failure of the physical mechanism. Solid State cells have a MTBF rating hundreds of thousands of hours greater than hard drives. The only thing you have to watch for is some types of solid state cells have a fixed read/write state change lifespan. Which is in the many millions of flips, but still, finite. - NanoStuff, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"Man, only Tom's Hardware would have an 18 page article on hard drives. That website has an unimaginable wealth of information."
Feel the wrath of my disapproval. I shall bury you like you've never been buried before! Bang! ......pshhhhhh..... BOOM! -1 - Vinthian, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1i'm on page 2 of 18... wow.. lots of writing on this one :/.
- 3dom, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2rickthebrick: ahem. video downloads are are already common. we do all already use bittorrent. ISP's want nothing to do with this and are usually actively against copyright infringement cos they have to deal with the first wave of legal crapola. And finally, I can in no way imagine that what you describe has any mechanism that would somehow generate the profit to pay for this free internet access and storage media you speak of. dont act like you know stuff when you dont.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"a dead-end technology that is the single biggest performance bottleneck in most computer set-ups."
You're talking about the user, right? - m0nte, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0LACiE Is the way to go. i currently own 9 - 250 gig external drives [ and 3 - 250 acom data external drives]
- Sethwm2, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Still... Very lame......
- AReallyGoodName, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2I thought everyone knew toms was biased by now.
A while back toms hardware showed a video of an AMD AthlonXP with smoke coming from it. The video just showed the chip catching on fire but the implication was AMD CPUs could catch fire at any time. He then showed a video of an early Willamette P4 (one of the hottest chips ever) and showed it not catching fire.
As Athlon owners know, you have to go to a lot of trouble to make an AMD smoke, Tom had to go into BIOS, disable the overheating shutdown completely and remove the heatsink from the CPU. He didn't take off P4s speedstep or it's overheat shtdown. He never mentioned these things which led a lot of people to think Athlons ran hotter than early P4s and were prone to burning your house down.
He had a huge amount of Intel advertising on his site when he did that.
He has also been found to have reviewed CPUs that he didn't actually have in his possesion. He once claimed to have a sample of a new Intel chip. Intel turned around and stated that there was no sample sent to him. He edited that article and then claimed he was basing the results off an older chip overclocked to the newer P4s speed. Thing is they were different architectures (Willamette vs Northwood). - m0nte, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0LACiE
- teknotant, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1That is why SDD and hybrid drives are starting to make their move into the media.
- Ray_Justice, on 10/12/2007, -5/+5How could they be biased, they break down everything and spell it out to a T... Granted there is always a conclusion at the end but there is plenty of information for a person to make their own informed decision.
- TonyCubed, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4Western Digital are indeed good.
I wouldn't trust Maxtor again, had too many bad experiences with them, their performance is good, but that's not a good enough reason for my MAxtor hard drives to die every other month. - Sethwm2, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Lame article
- FunkyWitDaSysTm, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1no shiz. a bunch of memory nodes in raid would be awesome.
- RicktheBrick, on 10/12/2007, -3/+0When video downloads become common there will be a great need for an increase in bandwidth. Maybe if ISP's would encourage a small per cent of its user to have a 10 Tera Byte or larger hard drive and to leave their computers on 24/7 than maybe we could all use a bit torrent program and decentralize the downloading of movies. Maybe that person could get the hard drive for free and get the internet for free for the trouble.
- mhockey14221, on 10/12/2007, -9/+3Whats a hard drive?
- OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -9/+2I didn't RTFA, but did they mention solid state drives?
Also, I agree that Maxtor sucks. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -9/+1@funky
Why would you need RAID? RAID is for speed (which solidstate doesn't have a spinning drive's latency to compensate for) and reliability (add parity bits to the memory address lines instead). Solid State Storage does not benefit from RAID (note well, the acronym would no longer apply). - keegan3d, on 10/12/2007, -23/+1Western Digital rocks!
I am not surprised that they did not test Maxtor cause they suck.
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