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- lordsandwich, on 10/12/2007, -0/+51Is that before or after rebates?
- Petronski, on 10/12/2007, -19/+67We're each going to need one to run Vista.
- Pseudo98, on 10/12/2007, -1/+32"The Tera-RamSan costs $1.6 million, making it a great value for those demanding the best performance in a storage subsystem..." (http://www.embeddedstar.com/press/content/2003/3/embedded7467.html)
Oh yes, it's a bargin. I'll have two please. - sh0gun, on 10/12/2007, -1/+25"Is that before or after rebates?"
"Honey! Have you seen that UPC code I cut off of that box yesterday? Its kinda important....." - Beanlover, on 10/12/2007, -3/+20Everyone please block johnjoseph12 for spamming these stupid links in all the frontpage stories.
- Codom, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14In 10 years it will be standard in mobile phones.
- Slugo, on 10/12/2007, -6/+15Requires 2,500 watts of power.
takes a small nuke plant to run it.......environmentalist will never let this fly :) - markseviltwin, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8ONE POINT TWENTY-ONE GIGAWATTS? TOM, IT JUST CAN'T BE DONE!
- mattgilberg, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8replace all of google's servers with this, start an isp, and boom, u have yourself something like 1 Gb/s down and 500 Mb/s up (a man can dream, can't he?)
- tazamore, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7If your database requires hardware like this then you need to fire your DB architect.
- innerspirit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6like.. only 1.5 million?
- innerspirit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+699% of us still wouldn't afford it
- blackb0x, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6I think you're thinking about 2500Mwatt, which is a whole lot. Probably more than a nuke plant puts out.
2500 watts is a little more than a single hair dryer (~1800watts) - zeth, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5You are correct that RAM needs power to sustain information.
They have probably thought of that though. :) - domokunt, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5"requires 2500 watts", prob. max consumption
- shierone, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Does it come as a laptop?
- invader, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4yes, it uses RAM, but in the same way as any computer does. the storage is on SSD's, solid state discs.
it would be pretty stupid to use volatile memory as a storage device..... oops, power went out.. no more data... - pootus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+42500 watts = 20 amps @ 125 volt. This thing runs in a range between 900 watts (7.2 amps @ 120 volts) to 2500 watts. Anything that sustains a continuous load above 80% of the Overcurrent Protection Device (16 amps on a 20 amp circuit) will trip the circuit.
It will take a dedicated 20 amp, 125 volt circuit to power this thing and I can't see it running on a heavy load of more than 15 amps with sporadic bursts to 20 amps. Anything above that would be unreliable. - scotsman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Give it another year and we'll see them hanging around people's necks with "microvault" stamped on the side.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Flash is too slow. This beast run on DDR RAM! :D
Bye! - Avengelist, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4It does. It's a noticable improvement.
They've recently done an upgrade: http://www.eve-online.com/news/newsOfEve.asp?newsID=335 - Familyguykiller, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:FnR9ADMLliAJ:www.superssd.com/products/tera-ramsan/+site:http://www.superssd.com/products/tera-ramsan/&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=1
Google cache cause the link is dead or whatever you wanna call it. Thats a crap load of ram imagine how great they could make a game with that. - whizzbang, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Ahh thats would sort out all our IO bound performance problems, if only it was 1/10th the price!
- rm999, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3according to http://www.storagesearch.com/ssdmarketmodelupdate.html a 64 gb ramsan disk is $140,000. This thing has eight 128 GB ramsans which I would imagine is at least 2 million dollars.
- domokunt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3thats why the mentioned hard drive backup
- kapowaz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4The space MMORPG Eve Online has been using one of these since last year (http://www.bit-tech.net/news/2005/12/01/eve_solid_state/) - although only the 64GB model that was available at the time. They're a real-world example of a system that actually needs something like this. Shame I stopped playing EVE about a year ago, as it probably plays a lot more smoothly now.
- loker269, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4according to my meter my computer monitor speakers and all that consume 600 watts.....my home theater set up is close to 1500 watts with all those HDD's, speakers and projector.....this is not unreasonable....electric bill would only go up about 2 or 3 bucks.....
- theone3, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3This + Fiber = Freaking awesome Bittorrent seeding :)
(Please? Someone? Preferably someone in AU?) - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Set up as RAID no doubt coz its just too slow otherwise :)
24Gig/sec just isn't enough - liquidcoooled, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3A fast one...
- krum0786, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2I wonder how long it'll take for this to be practical for the average geek though.
- Rashnok, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Well, in a couple years, it ought to be a bit more affordable...
- machx, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5Also probably hugely expensive, don't get me wrong im all for flash memory to replace hard drives but we still have a looong way to go.
- nighthwk1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2why doesn't digg use rel="nofollow" on comment links?
- Woknblues, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2didn't they stop doing this when they figured out that everything shrinks by 50% every 18 months? not only that, the price goes down too..... This thing will be a piece of crap before the year is out. is DDRRAM even state of the art now? anywho, I am guessing they built this thing for a special order, the customer backed out, and now they are flogging it.
- tombomb, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2To quote The who,
"I call that a bargain, the best I ever had!" - fletchowns, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3What kind of CPU would you need to be able to harness that beast?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1if you have a db which needed insane access times for, and money wasn't an issue this would be a good investment.
almost no seek times, no drives spinning up. at worst power fails for longer then an hour and it has to load back up off the hd's on boot, although i assume with 1.6mil to spend on storage you'd have your own power plant onsite anyway. - ke4roh, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1This reminds me of the one time I've seen 14 TB storage in one place - at the Alabama Supercomputer Center about 15 years ago. (At the time it was a VERY impressive amount of storage.) The storage was rows and rows of boxes 1.2 meters tall (otherwise roughly standard rack dimensions) - filling much of the room. They shared the space with a couple of VAXen. The Cray X-MP 24 was in the next room. (They've since upgraded the whole facility a couple of times.)
- nundeeram, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1All of the RAM sets have a backup hard drive; if the power fails then the data on the RAM gets saved to the backup disk drive (using the power from a backup battery). In fact, some of their devices have Active Backup, which constantly is backing up data to the hard drive:
Exclusive Active BackupTM software constantly backs up data without any performance degradation. Other SSDs only begin to backup data once power is already lost. (from http://www.superssd.com/products/ramsan-400/ ). - coding, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1You could build a customized raid that has the same throughput but not latency. Throughput is easy to attain because you basically have many disks holding data in a stripe. This product obviously has the same concept going on. So the only special thing about this product is the latency however most databases and database queries are optimized such that the WHERE clause is working on an index that probably fits in system ram anyway. I still dugg because of the feat of creating this monster. If this was available when Google was reviewing possible algorithms to find data and then filter it, I bet they would have purchased one too.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Where is this in Alabama?
- thatsiebguy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1http://www.superssd.com/success/ccpgames.htm
- Plezops, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1everything is bigger in texas!
this just proves it - mattverso, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1For all those who are saying 'requires 2,500 watts of power... would need your own power station', etc...
2,500 watts is about the amount used by an electric kettle. Not a hell of a lot really. I wouldn't want the bill at the end of the month though. - compressedaudio, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1ohhh, can ya pass us that box of tissues? im dribbling
- sstidman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Remember back when hard drives for PCs first came out and a big one was 40 MegaBytes? Fast forward and compare that to now where you can get a 400 GigaByte drive (that's 10,000 times more capacity) for a bit more than $200.
So how long before we'll all have a solid state disk this big that fits on a keychain and costs $80 after a rebate? - sound, on 11/03/2007, -0/+1With up to 64 4Gb FC ports you are talking about *many* servers consuming that bandwidth. At that point 1TB isn't all that much space.
- jeromehorwitz, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Just put that in the if you have to ask don't bother category!
Still sweet and consider that's what's to come for us all (or similar technologies). - Banzai, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1...been talking to these guys for almost a year, truly the fastest hardware on the planet, the technology is not new but still, the RAMSAN is a blindingly fast piece of hardware. Love it, I want two, no three. Banz
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