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- OnipSemaj, on 10/30/2009, -2/+45C'mon - these days $1000 will get you a stellar PC - perhaps not a pro gamer's rig, but an order of magnitude better than what you could get - or even build yourself - a few yers ago. I saw an Asus desktop system in a big-box store for $629, which included 6 GB (!) of RAM, a 750 GB HDD, dual-core Intel CPU, CD/DVD, card reader, and even an HDMI port, and it included a 19" monitor. WTF? Go to newegg and get a good $150 graphics card and you have a monster system for under $1K.
- BillyB, on 10/30/2009, -0/+36the way computers have dropped in price, a $1000 PC is an amazing dream machine in my eyes.
- ummcordell, on 10/30/2009, -0/+27These articles always suck. Do some research, go to Newegg, and have fun. You should be able to build a good one for around $700, if you're on a budget.
- lnxfi, on 10/30/2009, -0/+25sorry. the results were positive.
- ummcordell, on 10/30/2009, -3/+21My $700 PC plays Crysis at 50-60 fps at 1680 x 1050 with all settings on high.
- wbrns, on 10/30/2009, -1/+17Someone gimme $600 and this should work well...
- TechnoRabbit, on 10/30/2009, -0/+14Actually, fragMasterFlash, my computer does just as well at the same resolution. Only catch is the fog levels. The levels where there's tons of fog effects bog my computer down, but otherwise 50-60fps on a 700 dollar computer.
If you don't believe the price point, I have my parts list for my computer on my site: heatherhacks.tiddlyspot.com
And before I'm dugg down for spam, there's no advertisements, no agenda on my site. It's got a few personal notes, some bits of projects I've worked on, and that's pretty well it. - deweyhewson, on 10/30/2009, -1/+15Yeah, just long enough to run the benchmark.
Which is all that tech demo is good for. - Woah_G!, on 10/30/2009, -0/+13PCSTATS has these every month. They also have a shopping-list for Entry-level (~$500), Mid-range,(~$999) and High-end(~$2000+) systems.
http://www.pcstats.com/ShoppingList.cfm
I just figured i'd let people that digg this check it out. - phyx726, on 10/30/2009, -0/+13It doesn't really take a $1000 computer to run games anymore. If all you do is play games and browse the web, you don't even really need a quad-core. Crossfire two 4770's, you'd be hard pressed to find any games you cant play.
- noumuon, on 10/30/2009, -3/+14"Almost no one actually needs more than 500GB"
entirely false. - vtbarrera, on 10/30/2009, -0/+11I know Newegg gets all the love, but if you're lucky enough to live near a microcenter make sure to get your processors from them.
Intel Core i5-750 = 149.99 on Microcenter - http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results. ...
On another note, the Asus motherboard they recommeded will do the job; but seriously, save up an extra 70 bucks and get an EVGA P55 SLIl (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N8 ... it's dar and away a much better mobo and is pretty solid if you're looking to take your entry level i5 or i7 to new heights with some OC action. - Timmyftw, on 10/30/2009, -7/+17***** you.
- yocouchdigga, on 10/30/2009, -1/+10mic check, 1, 2...
- Schmich, on 10/30/2009, -0/+8ǝʞ..ǝʞ..keboa..keyboard check, a, B, C...4, B...A B C
- subtheorist, on 10/30/2009, -10/+18But can it run Crysis?
- inactive, on 10/30/2009, -4/+12test
- thugok, on 10/30/2009, -0/+7So much bad information and fail here I don't think it's worth trying to break down point by point. You're an Apple zealot, let's just leave it at that.
- inactive, on 10/30/2009, -0/+6I think the biggest thing that most people over look is hard drive performance. Moving from DDR2 to 3 or even to the new I5/7's probably wont have as big of an impact on most people's day to day activities as getting a couple of SSD's and raid 0ing them. With a couple of SSD's (decent one's), you can get apps loaded in seconds and not feel "lag". I think most new CPU's are generally
often just waiting of "slower" HDD's.. - ZoomBoy, on 10/30/2009, -0/+6INTERNET TOUGH GUY ALERT!
- MScrip, on 10/30/2009, -0/+6Sibilance... sibilance...
- TehProphet, on 10/30/2009, -0/+5Yeah, they need to hurry up and make flash hard drives affordable.
- datdamonfoo, on 10/30/2009, -0/+5Are most Apple users as insane and misinformed as this guy? Scary stuff.
- Gizza, on 10/30/2009, -1/+5I just did a quote for my brother.
Phenom Tri Core -2.4ghz
4gb Corsair
9800GT 512mb
500Gb Hard drive
Some cheap mobo and cheap case/psu for it.
$650AU, from an Australia online shop, which tends to be more expensive than what you can get in the US from places like Newegg.
Not a extreme gaming machine by any standard, but it will play most modern games at medium to high. And an extra $1-200 will get you from that 9800GT to a pretty high end card that will run pretty much everything at close to high at a moderate resolution like 1600x1050.
Any one who spends more than $1000 on a computer these days is just throwing money away. - TSK05, on 10/30/2009, -0/+4Don't they make gray cases anymore..
- damnshoes, on 10/30/2009, -0/+4shes a power supply?
- zmigliozzi, on 10/30/2009, -1/+5$500 into a pc will play any game out right now. Pretty lame article.
- OutlawDJ, on 10/30/2009, -0/+4Someone must have taken an extra dose of crazy this morning.
I have been using Windows 7 since the beta first was available, across an assortment of systems, and hardware. The process every time the install has gone smoothly and has proven to be quicker and more responsive than XP and Vista both.
Hell Win7 even runs great (better than XP) on the four year old Compaq laptop my girfriend has. - noumuon, on 10/30/2009, -0/+4really? you ascertained that much from my digg history and "About Me"? one part of my About Me simply states that I'm a mathematician, and the other part combined with where i'm from are a play on my name. sorry for being educated; i apologize sincerely to you for that, but i'm unaware how any of this implies anything about my social life. from my digg history, you'll notice i've been on the site for 813 days, and counting this comment have made 3,270 comments. if you weren't inept at math, you may notice that this is only approximately 4 comments per day.
with a quick look at your profile, however, one sees that in the 15 days you've been on digg with this account, you've made 537 comments. that's 35.8 comments per day. - mabsark, on 10/30/2009, -0/+4Intels top of the range CPUs are far superior than AMDs, but AMDs budget CPUs are far superior than Intels.
- RizzosBack, on 10/30/2009, -0/+3If all you get from a Micro Center is the processor, there won't be any more Micro Centers.
I got my i7 920 for 199.99 there, with about half my current parts. Considering they must be eating like an 80 dollar loss on the CPU alone, I don't see why I wouldn't buy anything they have price competitive with newegg. - Schmich, on 10/30/2009, -0/+3Power supplies just seem to go up and up in price when everything else goes down >_<
- AngelBunny, on 10/30/2009, -0/+3They typoed:
"Our recommendation, the Core i6-750, is the cheapest in the Lynnfield family" - admdrew, on 10/30/2009, -0/+3@noumuon yeah ***** him, he started with a sub-par response to your earlier comment, then went off on a crazy person tirade.
- dha07030, on 10/30/2009, -0/+3Just bought a Q9550 and a HD4890 both for under 200 dollars. There are some very good deals out there. I get 11,000 on 3dmark vantage with some overclocking. Not bad.
- inactive, on 10/30/2009, -2/+5OK...ignoring thae fact that $1000 is not budget for a PC, anyone who knows enough about computers to build their own does NOT need a site to tel them where to get he best deals on the parts.
- noumuon, on 10/30/2009, -0/+3e5300 comes stock at 2.6ghz for 69.99 at newegg right now. amd athlon II x2 245 comes stock at 2.9 ghz for 66.99. overclocks fairly nice too, and performs better than the e5300. i wouldn't say it's far superior, but price for performance, amd almost always comes out on top.
- Elranzer, on 10/30/2009, -0/+3These days it's a combo of SSD for OS/apps and a regular, large-capacity HDD for storage. You can get away with 64GB or less for the OS/apps SSD.
- admdrew, on 10/30/2009, -0/+3...says the guy who took time to log into digg, check this article out, and make a comment.
- t4m5t3r, on 10/30/2009, -4/+7erm,OK, so why not buils the same one and use AMD and you can take atleats $300 of that price and get pretty much the same performance!!
Nice Intel Advert.
I have alsways used AMD, it did consider getting an i7 however I saw my mates £4500 Dell XPS with i7 and all the trimmings (was 8GB ram, 2x 4870 x2 2gb & some raptors on raid, dont know which type probably 0 or 1) and it got about the same FPS in most games as my phenom 960 with a GTX260 & 8GB ram,for some games his was slightly better but for the most part the difference in performance in now way justified the extra £3000+ he spent on it!
Honestly, I work with intel system, we do ahve AMD but they dont sell many (probably for the same reason we dont sell many Linux PC's) and i have to say Intel is just far more troublesome, in all my years of building AMD systems I have had driver issues one single time and it was with the RC version of Windows 7 just the other day (and it was a Nvidia NIC driver)
If you want bang for buck i would always recommend AMD, good performace for a reasonable price. Intel CPU's are better than AMD the same way Iphone's are better than other Smart phones, and thats mostly in peoples imaginations! - admdrew, on 10/30/2009, -0/+3@newchap - a computer used as a home DVR is going to use 500gb of space pretty quickly. that situation is becoming more and more common
- acknotSW, on 10/30/2009, -0/+2Agreed 100%!
I just tried out my first SSD, a 64GB g.skill falcon. I put it in my lenova x61 tablet with 2GB of ram. I installed Win7 from a flash drive.
Total install time, about 15 mins.
From a cold start I can be logged in with a browser, excel, word, and visual studio 2008 open and responsive in 20 to 30 seconds.
It shuts down in about 10 seconds.
I've built $4000+ workstations, $10,000+ servers, and setup the most expensive laptops available at any given time and nothing has felt as fast on regular apps and general use as this 2 year old laptop does. Obviously it would choke on any kind of graphics or if I tried to run 10 resource hungry apps at the same time, but damn, unless you need to have a ton of space on your laptop, drop $150 and try an SSD in an older laptop before you spend the cash on a new one.
SSD FTW! I can't wait until the bigger and faster drives get down to a couple hundred bucks. - betona, on 10/30/2009, -1/+3I built my own a couple months ago for about $800 - new case, quiet 750W power supply, ASUS P6T mobo, quad core Intel, 6G RAM (for $90!), pair of RAID drives, etc. The deals and rebates I got were excellent and it's seriously fast.
- Napiertt, on 10/31/2009, -0/+2Way to use math noumuon!
- FightTest, on 10/30/2009, -1/+3A good power supply is important, but there's no way the system they linked needs 650w. That thing would be fine on a 500w PSU. Somewhere along the line people became convinced that they needed dual-video card level PSUs when they only run a single and meanwhile everything else is becoming more energy efficient.
- admdrew, on 10/30/2009, -0/+2cause ram is cheap and 'processing power' is a pretty ambiguous term; you're not necessarily going to find the latest and greatest multicore cpu for the cheap store-bought computers
- AngelBunny, on 10/30/2009, -0/+2it is called 'typo' as in the 5 and the 6 key are next to each other
- megamod, on 10/30/2009, -1/+3I don't understand these PC's with really awesome specs...but then you go look for what video card it has and it's using integrated...WTH.
What do you need that much RAM and processing power for if you don't have a good video card, have 50 copies of word open? - kellyrx8, on 10/30/2009, -1/+3you are a complete moron. Do research before you come spouting that nonsense.
Im not being and Intel fanboy here but your clains are so skewed by your personal preference. Ive used AMD for years also, however Intel is on top and has been for a while now. AMD has nice stuff....but clock for clock intel has them beat.
You are using FPS as base ....which is the beginning of your crappy claim. Different games use different ways of processing. some are GPU dependent and some are CPU dependent.
The 2nd issue here is that your friend WAY overpaid for a system like that. Thats his choice for buying pre-built, and that comes with a price tag.
Do you understand the cpu's your comparing at all?
do you overclock?
do you look at benchmarks at all?
your last quote is also a load of *****...I hope never to cross paths with IT person like yourself, the last thing you should be doing is giving people advice like that. You obviously have no clue what your talking about. - drsjlazar, on 10/30/2009, -1/+3$107 for Win 7 lol... n00bs.
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