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- H0mez, on 01/27/2009, -10/+52This is just another way to tax the rich. Since I am too poor to play golf, and don't live in CA I am all for it.
- Cglass, on 01/27/2009, -2/+36The deficit has nothing to do with Republicans. It all started from a crook named Gray Davis, he was a Democrat. I am a registered Democrat, but I think very liberally. Arnold is technically a Republican, but almost everything he does is down Democratic party lines.
Perhaps you should think a little before you write things :o) - WoWii, on 01/27/2009, -3/+37You just played a game of backyard football... that will be 10 dollars sir.
- clickmyface, on 01/27/2009, -3/+37How about -
CALIF. GOLFERS MAY TAKE PENALTY STROKE FOR GOVERNORS $42 BILLION BOGEY - financephi, on 01/27/2009, -1/+28$42 billion budget deficit - that's a lot of golf!
- v0ider, on 01/27/2009, -1/+24Really? Balance the damn budget and stop spending on things that you can't afford. That's what caused these economic problems in the first place.
- hobbers, on 01/27/2009, -1/+22Here's a wild idea - let's cut back on spending and see if that balances the budget. I'm not sure, but I have a hunch it might work. Any takers?
I can't believe the retarded people of California. Our budget problems were plastered all over the news just before the November ballot. So what do people do? Vote for billions upon billions of new spending. WTF? - SauceSpot, on 01/27/2009, -2/+21California is hardly a small government state.
- suicideboy, on 01/27/2009, -1/+17Does that include miniature golf to. If you don't get a hole in one on the last hole you have to pay the tax.
- inactive, on 01/27/2009, -3/+19Taxes are much worse percentage wise than those that caused us to rebel from England over 200 years ago. Pretty soon they will be taxing everything from water to having children. Frankly it's getting a little ridiculous. I'm ready for a 2nd revolution!
- BlackJackJester, on 01/27/2009, -1/+17Why the hell is it so hard to cut spending, rather than increase taxes. Ooo, looks like we're over budget, time to make everyone pay for our mistakes, literally.
- slightlyoffbeat, on 01/27/2009, -0/+15That's fine, but you're not allowed to eat or use any product that comes from California once you leave ;)
- violentvinyl, on 01/27/2009, -0/+13Voting against it?
- DontTreadOnMike, on 01/27/2009, -0/+13Republicans are just as much big government scumbags as Democrats. They're all the same. Infact the debt usually grows faster under Republicans than under Democrats. That's not an indorsment of Dems, just pointing it out.
Screw them all - MikeMitchell, on 01/27/2009, -0/+12im far from old, or rich, and i love playing golf. Its already too expensive. What a ***** thing to do....
- l0tharnt, on 01/27/2009, -3/+15Yea...lets abandon the biggest economically useful state this nation has.
- SPLASTiK, on 01/27/2009, -0/+10It is kind of interesting to think that if California was an independent country it's economy would be ranked larger than Canada.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_California - faithforever, on 01/27/2009, -0/+10California is doomed. Seriously, this is the best Arnie can do? At the rate the state of California is spending, the state is going to implode in 10 years. And taxing golf is the solution?
The idiots in Sacramento don't want to cut spending on anything, and want to increase taxes on businesses which are already leaving the state in droves due to high taxes and regulations, and find any way else they can tax people making a decent living. But cut spending? No way.
The middle class is getting hosed. Completely overtaxed, high unemployment, and the cost of living in California is so high that it's impossible to be able to afford to buy a house and send your kids to a good school. And now they can't play golf. Great. Even more reason to leave California. Pretty soon the state of California is going to be nothing but a few very wealthy elite (sure, let's tax them) and the very poor. The middle class is fleeing the state. Yet, no one in Sacramento seems to care or want to do anything about it. - shauncorleone, on 01/27/2009, -0/+10And when people stop playing as much golf due to the tax addition, the golf courses will lose money, and they'll begin cutting back on extra staff, which might just be a "poor" person similar to yourself.
- Ryan32, on 01/27/2009, -1/+11When I was an Active Duty Marine stationed in California, I went multiple times to expensive golf-courses (and I suck). I fully expected to be ridiculed and laughed at by snobby businessmen.
Instead, almost every trip I met up with a group of CLASSY individuals, who often times would not let me pay for a damn thing, and then they would ask me to join them for lunch (at $50 to $100/person) and pay for that.
The next time I deployed, these same individuals sent case after case of high end cigars, and DVD's etc to my Marines while we were deployed.
So say what you will about "rich" people. It's all being said out of jealousy, and you just make an ass out of yourself doing it. - Sagags, on 01/27/2009, -1/+10You guys must not live in california.... They are proposing taxes on EVERYTHING, everyday its something new, from wine to a new veterinarian tax.
- dimebonics, on 01/27/2009, -2/+10Oh man I can't wait until they start taxing air like his movie Total Recall (oops, better not give him any ideas!)
Seriously, when will the taxing end? Money does not equal solutions, INGENUITY equals solutions, you dummies can't just keep throwing money at the problems we face. - r0b1, on 01/27/2009, -4/+12Lol, that's just stupid...pure desperation.
- galeninjapan, on 01/27/2009, -3/+10It's okay to do things to other people. Just not to you right?
- anshuman, on 01/27/2009, -1/+8it is very very bad , when you start thinking tax on "Round of golf" is going to save economy :P , this really made me LOL.
- sphigel, on 01/27/2009, -1/+8Not everyone that golfs is wealthy despite your preconceived notions. Taxes like this further the disparity between the wealthy and middle to lower class because now all of a sudden only the wealthy can afford to play golf.
That being said your mindset makes me absolutely sick. You think because you don't participate or care for a certain activity then government should tax it? How long do you think freedom will last if everyone was as shortsighted as you. Grow up please. - shauncorleone, on 01/27/2009, -2/+9Golf is not only a sport for rich people. Your preconceived notion is completely wrong. Though once they start taxing it, it might move that way.
- hobbers, on 01/27/2009, -2/+8I'm a conservative independent. The problem isn't Republicans - it's politicians. These guys advertise one thing then get into office and do another thing. A true conservative would start red lining the budget and cutting programs.
When times are bad, tax revenue goes down, yet demand for government services go up. I can't believe these morons think it'll help the economy to recover by raising taxes in bad times, so that people making money make even less money. Just so people making no money can sustain their quality of life through the downturn. All that does is prolong the recovery. Instead of a long drawn-out struggle, I prefer a sharp quick pain that I can get over quickly and start moving forward from. - Eskinsaurus, on 01/27/2009, -0/+6While I'm no fan of taxes and agree they need to be heavily revised, insinuating that we should revolt because taxes are worse "percentage wise" is misleading and stupid. The American colonies were taxed with the profits going to Britain and not the colonies themselves, whereas the whole point of our taxes are to go directly to our benefit. Also, taxes were not the sole reason we rebelled by a longshot...
If you think a revolution that would throw our entire country into chaos and disarray is warranted by poor financial legislation, great for you and everyone digging you up. - IamJustinM, on 01/27/2009, -0/+6It's just you, again.
- drmangrum, on 01/27/2009, -1/+7because only the rich play golf?
This isn't the 1950's. There are people in all walks of life that play golf. They're just not all playing at pebble beach.
In any event, I don't see what the big deal is until a hard number is set forth.
If you can afford to pay the green fees, the clubs ( or rentals ), the balls, the beer, etc, you can afford a couple bucks for taxes. - chocobomog, on 01/27/2009, -1/+6To balance the budget you need to cut programs
Cutting programs means lost jobs
Lost jobs means unions/groups fight back and refuse to be cut
Every time a proposal to cut programs is presented, those affected by the cuts fight tooth and nail to keep their jobs (and who wouldn't?). Hospitals, firehouses, schools, state workers, etc have all been presented plans to save money on the budget and none of them have passed. This war has been going on for months now and while everyone agrees the budget needs to be balanced everyone also thinks someone else should have to make the sacrifice to do it.
Now we have to tax random things to compensate for the jobs we aren't allowed to cut. - zacharytelschow, on 01/27/2009, -1/+6You're falling for the false statements that these are the first things to go. From what I've read, stopping benefits to illegal aliens and stopping subsidies for light rail would bring your budget to nearly balanced. The first things to be cut most certainly don't have to be jobs, particularly jobs for basic services.
- Ninjapope, on 01/27/2009, -1/+6If you're rich, you probably don't pay attention to how much it is. It's probably one of those "if you have to ask, then you can't afford it" sort of things.
- chocobomog, on 01/27/2009, -0/+5Everyone seems to care, no one wants to be the one to make the sacrifice to make it happen.
There is a lot of needless spending in California, but that spending creates jobs for people. If you threaten to cut the spending you threaten peoples jobs and then they fight back. There have been many proposals to cut spending in various programs, but the people who are affected then complain to their politician and the proposals are shot down.
There is nothing wrong with fighting for your job, it just creates this terrible catch 22 which will likely bankrupt the state and cause even more people to lose their jobs. - elliotys, on 01/27/2009, -0/+4How bout we just tax the strokes above par.
- IamJustinM, on 01/27/2009, -1/+5Too bad there are no caddies in golf anymore.
- gttim, on 01/27/2009, -0/+4Not only I am for it, but I think they should double the tax for men who hit off the lady's tees!
- pathouston22, on 01/27/2009, -5/+9If you tax the rich guy a dollar more to play golf, thats probably one less dollar he's going to tip the caddy, the not-rich guy.
- Hetman, on 01/27/2009, -1/+5Have you not been alive these past 8 years. The only difference between the two are social issuies anymore.
- jeffkee, on 01/27/2009, -0/+4Yeah I know. I'm Canadian, I don't see it as a big deal. I would have been surprised if the government maintained a surplus in these times.
- vilago, on 01/27/2009, -0/+4you didnt see him in Junior...he was strong enough to have a baby
- DirtyVicar, on 01/27/2009, -0/+4How much you want to bet the elite who use those golf courses will place a couple of phone calls and threaten to cut off those $1000 campaign contributions?
- d3dm, on 01/27/2009, -1/+5Spalding! You'll get nothing and LIKE it!
- skizz, on 01/27/2009, -0/+4Agreed. The fact that we Californians as a whole voted to pass multiple high-budget propositions in the November election doesn't help at all. /facepalm
- Tyrghast, on 01/27/2009, -1/+4Saper seems to have taken the stance that most people take when driven in to a corner with no fact or real argument to back up their beliefs. We see it most commonly in religious people during a discussion on the validity of religion and the existence of god.
The stance is one of sheer arrogance, where their pride wont let them admit any wrong, that can be accurately summed in the statement "I am so much more intelligent than you, you couldn't possibly understand". Such an attitude expresses rank immaturity and a short-sighted nature that does more to hurt their argument than help it.
SaperKain you're a ***** moron. - FattyCorpuscle, on 01/27/2009, -0/+3At one point they were proposing (may still happen, who knows) to tax what we pay in state income tax...that's right, a tax tax.
- JulyZerg, on 01/28/2009, -0/+3""Rich" Americans tend to have money due to their drive/ambition/intelligence"
If drive/ambition/intelligence means rich parents, then yes. I agree. - inactive, on 01/27/2009, -1/+4There are a whole lot of us that are FAR from rich that enjoy playing golf...especially since the rise of Tiger Woods. Golf has become a universal sport, not just for rich white guys. The game is now more middle class than ever.
The article doesn't say it, but I'm assuming this is putting a tax on municipal (government-run) golf courses. If so, this is hitting the middle class and lower-middle class instead of the rich...because the rich belong to country clubs. The rich *rarely* play at municipal courses.
Just one more thing that convinces me that the GOP has eschewed conservatism altogether. *sigh* - Serinus, on 01/27/2009, -0/+3Yeah, because trickle-down economics works...
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