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- shosterman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+239"Men Settle for Any Sex, Scientist Finds"
- BigManOnCampus, on 10/12/2007, -5/+147This article is very cleverly worded. Women "settle" for bad. Women "accept" non-pleasure.
Shouldn't it instead be titled, "Women fail to speak up and say precisely what they want from the guy" ???
Or perhaps, "Women so uncomfortable with their own bodies they fail to talk about it" ??
Maybe, "Women's perceptions of their own beauty so warped to the negative they are disconnected from the reality of relations with a man." ?? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+102From article: @ very bottom: "And to make more time for sex, she said, men can help a girlfriend or wife with tasks around the house."
I KNEW it. Bias reporting! - TheSexyGeek, on 10/12/2007, -2/+51I agree. I hear some women talk about faking an orgasm almost as if they're proud of it. As if they feel good that they fooled the poor bloke into thinking that he's doing a good job. But if he had a real orgasm and the she had a fake one, who's the winner here?
- stonewaljacksn, on 10/12/2007, -6/+55i sometimes settle for fat chicks. we are even
- diggfinity, on 10/12/2007, -1/+45"Women Settle for Mediocre Sex" -- Submitted by "fatmike".
You can't make this stuff up. - rudy23, on 10/12/2007, -14/+56well isn't it obvious. women know very well that mentioning a lack of skills in the bed is a big blow to the male ego. who is gonna pay for their shopping bills then?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+43Happy Valentine's Day, folks!
- jstohler, on 10/12/2007, -2/+38So how exactly did the scientist determine that women will settle?
- unicornhunter, on 10/12/2007, -1/+36If there's no communication, then of course the sex will be sub-par.
- Nougat, on 10/12/2007, -9/+43@BigManOnCampus
Better yet: "Women fail to take what they desire and deserve, and it's the fault of men." - jerbaker, on 10/12/2007, -3/+37"I agree. I hear some women talk about faking an orgasm almost as if they're proud of it."
A woman at a party once proclaimed that men are so dumb because, "we fake orgasms and you guys never know." I replied, "Ma'am, I believe your mistake is in thinking that we care." - mattxb, on 10/12/2007, -1/+34people settle for mediocrity in general, common sense finds
- raid517, on 10/12/2007, -1/+31My girl never complains about sex - but that might be because she isn't having it with me.
Sigh... Sometimes life just sucks I guess... - evil-doer, on 10/12/2007, -4/+26and 80% of women lay on their backs lifeless during sex and expect the man to do everything.
ladies, do some stuff yourselves that feels good, and for ***** sake, speak up. if you like something, say it. if you want us to do something different, say it. we arent mind readers. - Adamacus, on 10/12/2007, -4/+23"Men Crap At Sex, Says Lesbian"
- borchard76, on 10/12/2007, -1/+20If a woman is in a long-term relationship and not getting great sex, then it is likely her own fault. Speaking from my own experience as a guy, I will do pretty much anything that my wife wants in order for her to have great sex. I figure, and rightfully so, that if she is enjoying it more, then she will want it more. Of course, I could be wrong about that, but hey--it's worth a shot!
- PeakAction, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18Some tips and general information for women:
• Make a move once in a while. If it's always up to us to initiate, get used to low expectations. We like to feel desired too, and if we don't, then sex is just masturbation with a workout.
• Few things will turn your man on more than talking to him during sex. If you act like you're enjoying it, you might actually start enjoying it.
• Oral sex is fun. Stop saying it isn't.
• Speaking of oral sex, if you maintain that thing, our appetite will increase exponentially. And drink more water.
• We'll trim the hedge too if you want us to.
• Don't treat sex as a commodity or bargaining chip. It makes us feel unwanted, and makes you a whore.
• If your store is always out of stock, we will eventually find another supplier. - EsmeTrue, on 10/12/2007, -4/+21Well I'm a real woman and I'm on here.
Wait /checks body parts
Yup still a woman
If you truly love someone sometimes you just don't want to say anything because you don't want to hurt their feelings. Even though the "clinically" correct thing to do would be to talk about it, it's not easy to always do the "clinically" correct thing.
By the way, more then anything, being willing to experiment and try new things is really a great way to spice things up and for all the slams on it, the porn industry is a great help in this department. - vsujohn2, on 10/12/2007, -3/+19Well, as much as it might hurt the guy's self esteem, if they dont want to just "settle" they shouldn't say how great the guy was if it sucked (or didnt)
- Pfhreak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+16"If you truly love someone sometimes you just don't want to say anything because you don't want to hurt their feelings."
Speaking as someone whose wife is (sometimes brutally) honest, I gotta say: don't worry so much about hurting his feelings. The male ego may be fragile, but it heals quickly. He'll get over it, you'll get better sex out of it, and it'll help his ego in the long run when he knows he's improved himself in some way. - BigManOnCampus, on 10/12/2007, -14/+29That's perfect Nougat, I knew it was somehow my fault.
After all, here's my checklist:
1) I'm white
2) I'm a man
3) I have blond hair and blue eyes
4) I have a good job and I'm finishing a decent education.
I'm sure one more strike against me would send me to hell. - biggerthed, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16"women may fake orgasms, but men fake entire relationships"
- chaosium, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16If all the persons a woman sleeps with are mediocre, EVERY SINGLE ONE, there's one factor involved that remains the same. Hrmmmmmm.
- nutmeag, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15I didn't read every comment, but I didn't see many (if any) women making comments, so I thought I'd give my womanly two-cents. I agree with y'all guys. I'd say my sex is way better than mediocre because the boyf and I communicate what we want, which satisfies me physically . . .and also emotionally. Having that communication is a great emotional connection, too. No, I might not get an orgasm every time, but the sex is still great. And I've NEVER faked an orgasm--seems rather stupid. If I'm tired or getting bored, I just let him know it's not working and tell him to finish his part so I can sleep. He understands.
- Craz1, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17i read that as "The University of Vagina Health"
- r0b1, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16Women will settle for mediocre sex, and will then get back in the kitchen and make me some pie.
- jstevewhite, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11Well, duh. I mean, "Mediocre" means "of only moderate quality"; "moderate" means "average in amount, intensity, quality, or degree". So if you have a long term relationship, *most* of the sex you have - regardless of how good it is on a global scale - will be 'average' to you, by definition. It's the clamping problem; if you are conscientious and work hard for romance - say you buy your girl flowers, just because, a couple times a year (in addition to birthday, anniversary, valentine's day, etc) - after a couple of years those flowers will be "mediocre", and you have to find a way to spike the chart. Same in bed. Which makes it difficult, because it's hard for anyone to continually improve performance over years and years.
People (not just women) lie to themselves, too. I don't know how many times I've had friends who had expressed distaste for - or desire for - certain things, whether sexual, conversational, or relationship specific, either gladly accept those things they didn't like, or do without those things they wanted - all because of the 'rush' of a new relationship. It's like Eddy Murphy once said. When you first hook up, and you get some, it's like "Oh, my god! What kinda cracker was that? That HAD to be a Ritz! That's a damn good cracker!" But a year later when you've been hitting it every night, you roll over and say, "Wow. I just had a regular old cracker!?"
The answer is communication. Sometimes we (both men and women) don't know what the problem is, just that there is one. Talk about it. It's been said that communication is the secret to a happy relationship - that extends to the bedroom as well. - drmangrum, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11hell at this point I would settle for bad sex. Even a pat on the ass would be nice.
- patientXero, on 10/12/2007, -4/+14The good news is that there is a solution.
Any women out there who are unsatisfied with settling for mediocre sex, call me to discuss the fix. - JQP123, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12I used to think this ... before I met my wife.
The quote that comes to mind here is from actor Paul Newman. Asked why he wasn't involved in affairs like most other Hollywood types, his reply was, "Why go out for fast food when I've got steak at home?".
I lived the single life for a looong time but I've been happily married now for over ten years. A hot piece of ass still catches my attention on occasion but I know from experience that it can't replace the relationship that I've built with my wife. I've never cheated on her and I don't intend to. I think they call that "love". If you're lucky (I know I am) you'll get to experience this one day. - jcaino, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12@doctorsax
i read that as:
'Your sex is very important to us, and we are constantly looking for ways to improve our customer service. This sex may be recorded for trading purposes.' - JQP123, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12"If a woman is in a long-term relationship and not getting great sex, then it is likely her own fault."
A significant percentage of women have either physical or psychological issues with sex and as a result, have never had "great sex" with anyone. If you just don't really like sex, "mediocre" is probably as good as it gets. - Equistatic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Maybe you should mention Japan and how you lived there a few more times in this thread.
- lokai, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10It's pretty silly of most women to not inform their partner if sex isn't as good as they would like. Without knowing what she wants, how is the man supposed to even attempt to properly satisfy her? If more couples took the time to communicate to one another what they like in the bedroom, a lot more couples would be having some really great sex.
- jbreiding, on 10/26/2009, -3/+12The irony of this is the mentality of men is to fix something that is broken. So if the women would just speak up, more than likely the guy will continue to try harder until he has accomplished this task of "getting her off".
Women not saying anything and being proud of faking an orgasm are merely hurting themselves.
I for one have never faked an orgasm! Men don't fake orgasms! - Ibox, on 10/12/2007, -5/+14So you know why women fake orgasms'?
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they think we care.... - jerbaker, on 10/12/2007, -10/+19Does anyone think it's strange that women give men a hard time for viewing pr0n because, they say, it gives us unreal expectations? Some women say that pornography distorts our view of what is normal by allowing us to seek out sexual experiences with women possessed of bodies far out of most of our leagues. Then, the conventional wisdom goes, men have unrealistically high expectations of their partner's physique and performance in the sack which leads to disappointment and even possible infidelity. Remember that this is MEN'S FAULT.
Now, women are shown to have exactly the same sort of unreal expectations. While we can only speculate why this is, I suggest soap operas, romance novels, Cosmopolitan, and the like. Regardless, the point is that women also have unrealistically high expectations of their partners, but do you notice that this is also MEN'S FAULT.
Does anyone still seriously wonder why there's domestic violence? - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11I think everyone is missing the most important part of the article:
"Women have high expectations for nearly every area of their lives"
Women have unrealistic expectations. Average is not good enough. They expect things to be like in the movies, TV, and in those books they read. They expect the man to earn over $100,000 a year, working part time at home in the 5000sqft house they own while paying $500 a month in mortage. Women want the big manicured lawn with pool and a dog that never smells or needs to be washed They expect to be driving a $40K car. They expect to have a gardner that looks like a model and a housekeeper that is a gourmet cook. And, they expect Hubby to have a models looks, a pornstar's dick, be clean shaven at all times, and know exactly what she wants how and when she wants it without her ever saying a word. - raindogmx, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12So, can the woman have "mediocre" sex and the man still have "good" sex? I don't think so.
More like humans settle for mediocre sex either because we don't comunicate or we don't know better. - orlyfactor, on 10/12/2007, -4/+13@xBiTReaVeRx:
Kramer: You know... I faked it.
Jerry: What?
Kramer: Yeah.
Jerry: You faked it? Why would you do that?
Kramer: Well you know, if it's enough already and I just want to get some sleep.
I faked it once, for that exact reason...sometimes you just want to go to bed and realize that initiating sex wasn't the best idea. - PedleZelnip, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Interesting how many men on here read this and took it as anti-male when in fact the article puts much of the blame on women (don't be insecure about body image, be more open to sex, make it a higher priority, communication, etc). One reading the comments might take this as a sign that men don't listen (since we didn't "hear" what the article had to say).
I took it as a sign that Digg readers are f'n hillarious. :p - meltingrobot, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9@xBiTReaVeRx
I wouldn't quite rule that out. I've thought about faking them before. It's a little harder to get away with I imagine though. If the evidence isn't there... - ICSU, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11What a stupid premise. They have to settle for mediocre sex because they are bad at it in the first place.
This stupid article makes it seem like all women are great at sex and have to tolerate lame partners. - qshady, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10I agree with you completely, but communicating to a guy even the mere possibility that what he's doing isn't gonna get you off or that his sexin' could use some adjustment is like skipping through a minefield. I'm opposed to faking on principle, but might less women fake it if guys' egos weren't so famously fragile?
- drmangrum, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12They left out some things. Due to the media (romance novels, cosmo, insipid romantic movies ), many women think sex is supposed to be some kind of mind-blowing, toe-curling, explosive experience, WELCOME TO REAL LIFE! Life is not a porno.
Could men do more? Sure, a little foreplay never hurts, but women could try harder too. - nofxjunkee, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11Most chicks like to watch porn. Some like to watch it and do what the porn stars are doing. Ha ha, just be ready for her to go "we are NOT doing that!" when some chick gets ploughed in the ass.
- Equistatic, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7@popfrogs
Via wikipedia:
Leykis has been married and divorced four times, although he has never had any known children. His fourth wife, Susan Drew Leykis, filed a police report against him while they were married and living in Boston in 1993. She allegedly told police that Leykis assaulted and threatened to kill her during a fight after they returned home from a radio station Christmas party.
Sounds like the kind of guy you would want to give you relationship advice. - JQP123, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9"and 80% of women lay on their backs lifeless during sex and expect the man to do everything."
This is my definition of mediocre sex ... and I'm a guy.
In these cases, I recommend a little role reversal. Encourage her to get her on top while you just lay on your back. Once you get her up there and moving around; hopefully, she'll discover her "sweet spot" and eventually become a more active participant. Otherwise, I'd try to find someone else to play with. - airship, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7"We might think that Victoria’s Secret models have a great sex life, but their sex life is no better than anybody else’s.”
Any Victoria's Secret models out there who are having mediocre sex are cordially invited to contact me. I can deliver all the mediocre sex you can handle! -
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