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- jgo6d, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7It's interesting, you twit. Enjoying something simply for intellectual stimulation is one of the luxuries that evolution has afforded us.
- valis, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Based on this thread I'd say some people digg people down because they can. No rhyme or reason to it.
- valis, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4"Skeletal remains of a hominoid nicknamed "hobbit" and found in a cave on a remote Indonesian island are from an ancestor of human pygmies still living there today, scientists say."
http://www.cnn.com/2006/TECH/science/08/22/pygmies.reut/index.html - mustanggt1989, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3When I saw this I thought the "debate" was over the ***** nature OF hobbits. Which in that case, their gay. (LOTR: Return of the King ending) And in the context of this story, if there were hobbits, I bet that is why you don't see anymore hobbits. They made themselves extinct.
Sorry. I saw Clerks 2 over the weekend. - Esstee, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Since the Pluto disgrace my life has never been the same.
- tthomas1529, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Did they close the excavation because of the politically charged debate? if so how sad. you would think both sides would welcome more specimens. the debate is BS and can be easily resolved with more fossils.
- tedc, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2It's really a question of sample size, isn't it? It's hard to make a definitive pronouncement when you've only found one reasonably complete skeleton and a smattering of other bone fragments.
- runmaximus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1a lot of new species of early human have been discovered with very few bones, and some with just the skull, the skull can tell anthropologists tons about the species. im not saying that those conclusions are always correct (piltdown man) but there is precedent for this type of thing in the field which sometimes prove to be true (black skull).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piltdown_man#Forgery - info on piltdown
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paranthropus_aethiopicus info on black skull - RCinBigD, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I think you hit the nail on the head...except that they don't even have a complete skeleton, they have a mostly complete skull. That's it. How they leap from that to a whole new species of humans is beyond me.
- stephyhall, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1 Here's some information.
http://dsc.discovery.com/news/briefs/20050509/pygmies.html - Johnka, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Here's more info about the snarky scientists - it's becoming a soap opera:
http://digg.com/general_sciences/The_Hobbit_Wars_Heat_Up - osubuku, on 10/16/2007, -0/+0I think I saw on http://www.dinosaurhome.com/ a thread about it, but I can't seem to find it :-|
- Esstee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I also think that the classification is somewhat raw under the circumstances. There was plenty of evidence to support a more civilized explanation but the desires of some to fill in much needed gaps in other scientific theories is strong and so emotions fly.
This reminds me of a story I read several years ago where early researchers took pygmies from the jungle and studies them as if they were animals. Seems to me there was a movie of this as well but I can't remember. Whatever the case, the timeframe, location and bone fragments do not provide sufficient information to conclude it was a new species. - Esstee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Thanks, I was just going to ask if anyone else had some info. on this.
- Esstee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1I also read this information shortly after a the publication release covering this artifact.
It is disappointing that all facts are rarely available in events such these. It harms both the credibility of the researcher and does not improve on the overall integrity of the scientific community. The problem is not so much the researchers as it would be those who are handling the data presentations.
Thanks for sharing this information also. - Esstee, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Can they even do that? - I mean is the site 'owned' by a particular person or organization?
I also agree, whatever the case may be with these findings, continuing the excavation is a crucial element to the success of the research. - CatalystGhost, on 10/12/2007, -4/+3Yes... instead... they should've named it some ridiculous thing that no one even knows what it relates to. Right...
They called it a hobbit because that's what it looks like, kind of. And because most people know what a hobbit is now. It's not an official name, it's a nickname. What else should they have called it, jackass? The "short-looking almost-human"? "The midget"? "The dwarf"? Yeah, I'm sure stuff like that would fly really well... idiot. - uberjurk, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2Did they plan to return for the huge bash when he turned eleventy-one?
- Esstee, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1You seem correct.
I think DIGG could improve the DIGG system by forcing comments when digging, this way people would actually have to 'think' before acting out. - Teaboy, on 10/12/2007, -5/+1There was a documentary on the BBC about this, although it was a couple of years ago. They went to Indonesia and found this guy living in a village in the jungle (who lost count of his age, but his friends swear he's over 100) and he was only about 4' 5" or something; which suggests that there are pygmies living around the area, possibly because of a genetic flaw.
But obviously their results were inconclusive. - roosterjm2k2, on 10/12/2007, -6/+2Does it really matter in the grand sceme of things, this has about as much an affect on life as reclassifying pluto...
- blapierre, on 10/12/2007, -10/+6Hobbits are from the book Lord of the Rings, they aren't real! Don't try to be cool by calling your fossils hobbitses!
Edit: Ugh, why did this get posted under this guys post even after I refreshed. - Lexus30, on 10/12/2007, -7/+2And the Lord of the Ring jokes start.
- zediker, on 10/12/2007, -8/+2Way to make you look credible guys... nickname your discovery 'hobbits'... you do realize you will now and forever be known as 'that hobbit guy' by your peers...
- Feanor, on 10/12/2007, -12/+3bury
- valis, on 10/12/2007, -12/+3*chuckles*
My precious ... - ChileanGoD, on 10/12/2007, -11/+1One does not simply ROCK into Mordor
http://i47.photobucket.com/albums/f200/prettyfargone/Rock-Into_Mordor.jpg - jonathantneal, on 10/12/2007, -12/+2Mommy, when did Jesus create the little people?
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