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- sardon1c, on 10/12/2007, -2/+51A website is NOT a substitute for good parents.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+42The gem: MySpace represents 16.7% of all internet hatred towards parents.
- Xizer, on 10/12/2007, -7/+43MySpace is the worst thing to happen to the Internet since AOL.
- adolfojp, on 10/12/2007, -0/+27I would say that MySpace is a good representative of society in general.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+29You don't need to single out MySpace.
Just look at any website that allows users to comment. There's a lot to be said for editors. - GuitaristTom, on 10/12/2007, -0/+22"Just look at any website that allows users to comment."
does...does else see the irony in that... - ALLCAPS, on 10/12/2007, -3/+25Fascinating article:
Google returned 9620 results for "I’m going to kill myself" on Myspace - johnnysokko, on 10/12/2007, -1/+20there's this crazy new thing called email. try it out. ;)
- chaosbuddha, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17I say keep myspace, because if myspace were to die it would cause a flood of retards on other web sites that actually have interesting material on them (aka digg).
- norbiu, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17Rather a hilarious study of a depressing problem.
- elnerdo, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=site%3Awww.digg.com %22digg sucks%22
47 for Digg sucks on digg itself.
EDIT: Whoops! Pretend that this comment is ACTUALLY a reply to 'ALLCAPS's' second comment rather than his first. - DaffyDuck, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13I would say it's a better representation of youth in America than society at large.
- Emerica88, on 10/12/2007, -0/+13Its more like, humanity is a waste of MySpace. How is it MySpaces fault that our majority of young people are idiots? They were idiots before Myspace, and they'll be idiots after Myspace.
- elnerdo, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17Very well written. I agree wholeheartedly
- Emerica88, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Scary huh?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -18/+28This story is just hating on Myspace that's all...
*lame reported*
Perfect example :) - ALLCAPS, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12There's more! If you use the same search method. On Myspace.com there are 115,000 results for 'Myspace sucks', but zero for 'Digg sucks', hmmm
- irate, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12I hate my mommy :(
LOL, myspace. - Centius, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8That's a pretty funny article. I would have to agree with a lot the the negative stuff said about myspace. I don't think that myspace really promotes any of the bad stuff presented in that article. It is just that when so many people use it the idiots are going to stand out from the others and make the situation even worse for the site. About the only good thing i can say about myspace is the benefit for promoting music, other than that its just an excuse for people to post random comments and see how many people they can add to their friends list.
- j0keR, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Interesting, but Google also gives about 12,100 instances of the word "dupe" on Digg.
Every web community has their trolls.
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26,500 results on Google for the phrase "No digg." - kalphegor, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8There are 8,730,000 for "blogging sucks", I wonder why?
and 17 millions for "myspace suck"...
and here is the most lightweight page i seen on myspace http://myspace.com/mikeindustries/ - NeilM, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9E-mail for teh win!
- kalphegor, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8but she loves you :P
LOL, digg. - Windowlicker, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7People tend to complain about there life in order to get more attention. I'm sure some of those kids are really really messed up, but the majority of them are just plain dumb. I had a roommate that would make up total BS stories just cause he would have a few girls talk to him... people need lives, not mySpace.
- GuitaristTom, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I wouldnt just single it out to youths...most adults these days are just as guilty of being childish
- renpatel, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6wow...what's worse?
Grammar problems or just the blatant disrespect of other people's opinions? - Burns, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5and thats just the ones with correct spelling
- jasqwerty, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7MySpace: Teen angst & drama in digital form.
- superfunkypants, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5I find it fascinating that the kids who used to make fun of me for using BBS's in 7th grade are the ones whoring themselves out for "add"'s on myspace.
- DaffyDuck, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5By the way, I don't see any problems with Myspace or see it as detrimental. These kids will outgrow these behaviors. Those that don't will be janitors or work at McDonalds or whatever. Those kinds of jobs need to be filled one way or another.
I'm not seeing a bright future for this kid though: http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=43011373 - starmanjones, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5>A website is NOT a substitute for good parents.
but we live in a society that doesn't allow for good parents. - johndi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5You realize you've just given the trolls all the inspiration they need to change that.
- PsycheRevolt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Disgruntled youth tend to conglomerate with other disgruntled youth. Not everyone has a myspace account...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6I told myself I'd never make one... but I did. Reconnected with a few of my army buds, and found a few other interesting people. Like the "investigate 9/11" people. Yes, most of them are sheep, just on the other side, but there are a few critical thinkers. My blog is also more likely to be read and commented on than if I installed software on my own site that nobody knows exists. But yeah, the overwhelming majority of myspace are the "clubber", "emo", "leg4liz3 Pot1!11" people. I just avoid them, and all the friend requests from myspace whores and bands.
And I keep my Ctrl + shift + S handy to disable those hideous styles. Why on earth would people disable the links to everything on their page? - forkburn01, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3myspace deserves my contempt, but i have to agree with those who commented above on the unforgivably unscientific and myopic nature of this analysis (that's prolly why this story was buried). nonetheless, there is significance to it, but i feel it was more the result of someone who is sick of not being able to really explain why myspace is such a "horrible" place to someone else. i'm sure everyone who dislikes myspace have had that experience to varying degree (usually depending on well that person knows u). what better and easier way than to compile a bunch of numbers for that purpose!
now i would like to get my own opinion in here:
for a moment, let's put aside important and even relevant things like "simply expressing oneself", "a waste of life", "blowing off steam", "social catalyst", "the role of parents", etc... a debate based on those views will get nowhere, because there is truth in all of them. but we don't need any more relative truths.
i feel the problem is that myspace has no "role models" (in quotes because i don't mean only ppl are role models), nothing higher for users to aspire to than who they are themselves. truth to tell, growing up is tough, and it's important to gain, retain, and continually refine that "higher" perspective relative to where u are (something that hopefully each person defines for themselves).
myspace, unfortunately, offers an environment in which users are typically surrounded by mirror reflections of themselves; an environment that vindicates who each user is relative to others like him/her.
that is, if you have "high standards", myspace can theoretically be a very stimulating place (e.g. for the bands.. well, at least some of them). however, if you have "low standards", myspace turns into the swamps, a concentration of a type of confusion in which questions answer themselves.
in all fairness, i think that's the challenge we are going to have to face in any social medium, whether in myspace or at the office. it just so happens it's easier for myspace to be in the dumps. - renpatel, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6general teenage population is absurdly stupid. you take a high school of about 1500 students. and only a 100 will probably be considered respectable human beings as far as taking arts, intellect, reasoning, and originality into consideration.
blame the parents for raising stupid kids not myspace. if i were the creator(s) of myspace hell i'd do the same thing... reach for the massive populace of dumb people on the earth. with all that said i have a myspace account as well myspace.com/renpatel simply because i don't want to be a hermit just because i consider myself smart.
-ren - charmedguy18, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5http://moneydick.com.nyud.net:8080/wordpress/2006/04/23/science-of-myspace/
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3so you're saying you're smart?
- l337sponge, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3I personally hate myspace but i still have a profile there. It has reunited me with a long lost friend and cousin so that is pretty cool. Otherwise it is just a place to put stuff when your bored.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3i agree with you here forkburn01. And it is very sad that there are very few role models left anywhere in society. I am glad that i had my father to look up to when i was younger. I think that myspace probably is also a bit of a backlash from the abscence of rolemodels. If i can't look up to someone i'll look side to side.
- oneiroi, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Okay please elaborate?
It sucks because they put fake profiles up?
Who cares?
Is it tarnishing your good name with your peers and coworkers? - fluxion, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4over your heads i suppose.
original:
http://myspacesuicide.ytmnd.com/
remix:
http://thyspace.ytmnd.com/ - p9s50W5k4GUD2c6, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2@jmhoule314
That was exhausting to read - but I agree with you. :)
I wouldn't worry about the stones that people throw at this juggernaut website - from the outside. It's clearly filling a need. As such it will grow as long as it fills that need better than others. Beyond that, it is an interesting social phenomenon to read about.
But I would worry about the ***** that's going down from within MySpace. - tragik, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5As a former Myspace user. I have a cellphone. I call my friends, They don't mind.
No digg for you. - starmanjones, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2>blame the parents for raising stupid kids not myspace. if i were the creator(s)
of myspace hell i'd do the same thing... reach for the massive populace of dumb people on the earth.
all the parents i know are too busy trying to keep food on the table and a roof over everyones head. we need a society that fosters good parenting. that takes time not just the ability to punish.
i think we should also not loose sight of the fact that one of the worlds most notorious conservatives owns myspace. this is classic. we have the conservatives [you don't fool us by not stating it] complaining... blaming others... for myspace... if they have a beef shouldn't they blame the owner. but he's one of them so they can't. - CannibalTom, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2http://hitlermyspace.ytmnd.com/
- oneiroi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2People are taking myspace out of porportions.
I think the issues that are talked about tend to be the same issues that were here when the internet was born. Now they just have a simpler target. - RichPowers, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I have a MySpace that I use to keep in contact with old friends. I'm proud to say that it has no ***** up HTML, bright orange backgrounds, or Emo music playing in the background. Nor do I ever blog (except once to tell people that MySpace for the most part sucks balls).
I'd say about 5% of people on MySpace are like me. I don't know about the other 95% (except from articles like this) because I'll be damned if I ever visit a profile other than my friends'...
PS: The author of that study rocks! And I thought AOL was bad... - p9s50W5k4GUD2c6, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"respectable human beings as far as taking arts, intellect, reasoning, and originality"
There is more to being a respectable human being "arts, intellect, reasoning, and originality"
Respecting others is sorta key to - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I haven't read the article because the site is currently down, but I'm still going to put my two cents in. Myspace is not a haven for stupidity or a disease (etc..). Myspace acts as nothing but a social catalyst. If you are in to meeting new people then you can use Myspace to do so. You can meet people of of Myspace much more quickly then by any other means. Say you met 10 people off of Myspace in 6 months and 5 of them turn out to be complete tools. Compare that with meeting 10 people in real life by other means in 6 years and 5 of them will probably turn out to be just as crappy as the 5 people you met off of Myspace in the much shorter time interval. Now you might say, but in real life you meet someone at a baseball game, a cookout, a concert, a bar, you would say its the real world and i am meeting people with whom i have similar interests. To which i would respond, you have fallen right into my trap. And ill take the latter example of a bar for the purposes of my argument. It is presumable at least that when you are talking to someone on Myspace they are sober(most people anyways). If you meet people off of Myspace at least you aren't driving home drunk. Myspace also works as a catalyst because if you were meeting people at events that cost you money it would take you much longer to meet as many people because you probably don't have the money to do something that interests you everyday but you can use myspace every day. Also being a closed-minded snob is not the way to broaden your horizons or nurture your intellect, as any cognitive researcher will tell you. By saying "the sky is falling" and badmouthing myspace is only playing into the hands of two major groups, the government and the media. Clearly they want us to be scared. If you aren't scared that your carbon monoxide detector might be one of those on the recall list you wont "stay tuned" and watch the commercial to "find out after the break". If you aren't blindly scared of damn near everything then the government wont have anything that they need to protect you from and they will no longer have a purpose(id go get 1984 and quote some stuff but i am currently too lazy). I was watching 20/20 a little while back. Every other week they have a 'new' story about the dangers of myspace. On this particular episode there was a detective from a small town who impersonated a 19 year old on myspace to try and get underage girls to reveal personal information. Now the most damning evidence that myspace is dangerous was one of the three underage girls that he was in contact with, get this, i know the suspense is killing you, I'm about to say it, you'll have to lock your children in a closet till they are 18 are you ready, i mean really ready? She posted a bulletin that said her and her friends were going to taco bell or KFC at a specific time. Let me compose myself. Phew i was just crying because i realized what an unsafe world we truly do live in here in the US, even without the mobs of religious fanatics running around our streets with automatic weapons trying to incite a civil war or the threat of if not daily then weekly suicide bombs or the threat of catching diseases from the dirty water that we have no choice but to drink or the prospect of starving or corrupt politicians. Wait a minute scratch that last one. Back to the 16 yo girl. So now you are telling me that a child molester or kidnapper knows exactly where these 16 yo girls are going to be at a specific time? I am going to assume that if he is computer literate enough to use myspace he has enough sense to know that he can just go to the mall on friday night. And that if he wants them alone all he has to do is go after close when they are waiting alone for rides. Not to mention that along the same street where these girls will be walking to KFC or Taco Bell the would be abductor is going to see other underage girls that meet whatever criteria he has. Also its much easier to abduct a girl that is traveling alone. She'll be traveling in a group. But none of this common sense seems to stop 20/20s reporters and the parents interviewed on the show that they must fear the big bad myspace. The media that tells us we have everything to fear is a cancer and waste of humanity not myspace. Look at friendster for those who remember it. It wasn't as popular but still had many of the same flaws as myspace. What percentage of underage girls have been raped/abducted/killed off any social networking website in comparison to the same rate in the general population? I would seriously doubt there is a difference. @ the poster, why don't you try creating instead of tearing down?
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