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- frontporsche, on 08/07/2008, -0/+2I'm amazed they actually wasted time testing this.
- inactive, on 10/29/2008, -0/+1http://www.runncaronwater.com
To run the engine efficiently, precise control of the fuel/air mix is required as you have to lean out the hydrocarbon fuel/air mix during normal running, or richen the mixture when the fuel/air mix begins to pre-ignite - easy with today's computerized fuel injection systems which make use of anti-knock sensors (which pick up any pre-ignition), temperature sensors all over the engine, and exhaust gas sensors.
Among other things components heat the fuel line so the fuel isn't cold; it also has a box for tweaking the onboard computer that controls the fuel injectors to compensate for the additional gas volume of the water vapor.
The method under discussion is a method for increasing the fuel-burning efficiency of a regular gas or diesel engine - not running it on H2O as a fuel replacement. - johndi, on 08/08/2008, -0/+1I wouldn't call it a waste of time. This should keep many people from getting scammed. Score one for laboratory science over endless reiterations of textbook answers.
- Bsew64, on 09/26/2008, -0/+0Hmm you must tell my 2002 Ford Van that went from 13 MPG to now and consistently 26 MPG now. Now that gas doesn't effect my pocketbook I can still afford doing my deliveries with it and take home the same pay and bank the rest. I will be doing my wife's car Sunday. A 2004 Honda Element that only gets 20 mpg now.
H.H.O. is damn good by me - Chrisnofear, on 09/14/2008, -0/+0Please try to have an open mind. This is a good answer to a problem we all deal with on a daily basis. I have test hundreds and it saves gas ever time. I am here to attempt to show you the math and if you try it you will prove it DOES WORK. But you have to try not just read about it.
Here's the simple math I use to stuff it in the face of "the experts" when they say we're attempting to violate the "Laws" of conservation of energy. Please feel free to use it to stuff it to them too.
1) The best I.C.E. is 18% efficient, 20% on a good day.
2) The process of brute force electrolysys today has been pushed to about 85% Faraday.
Note: Based on the caloric energy available from burning Hydrogen, by using Faraday's "Law" to translate from electrical energy it is estimated that 100% efficient hydrogen electrolysis is achieved by creating somewhere between 5.5-7.5 milliliters of gas per minute per watt of energy consumed. Members of our research group have run the numbers several ways which all seem to point to around 7.0 m/m/w or mmw for short. Many of our cells have operated as high as 6mmw or roughly 85% efficient
3) The product of electrolysis is HHO which has it's own energy value, up to 85% of what we put in.
If all we considered was the return of energy value when we inject the HHO as a suppliment to gasoline, then yes; Conservation of energy applies.
HOWEVER!
HHO as an additive does more than return 80% of the energy we put in to create it. It's properties enhance the slow burning gasoline, speeding up the rate of combustion, causing much more of the total combustion process to be translated into mechanical energy rather than being lost as waste heat out the tail pipe, raising the efficiency of the total system. Returning to the simple math...
4) Let's say we're able to translate just 10% more of the total system energy to mechanical energy. We have still not violated conservation of energy, only raised the total system efficiency to 28%. But that's an increase of 55%!!! Now deduct the energy loss of 15% to create the HHO that made this possible and you still end up with a total net gain of 40%!
This is not rocket science. It's simple math. And it works. The reality is some are getting even more, up to 35% mechanical efficiency, 94% gain, -15% to create the HHO, 79% total net gain. That's 54 MPG on a car that started out at 30. People are doing this. It is working. The move is on and there is no stopping it. - Eagleton, on 08/19/2008, -0/+0I'm glad Popular Mechanics tested this and proved it's a scam. Hopefully, this will help consumers from getting ripped off.
- Chrisnofear, on 09/14/2008, -0/+0I wonder how much Cheveron paid for that answer. It works no matter what you say!! Here's the simple math I use to stuff it in the face of "the experts" when they say we're attempting to violate the "Laws" of conservation of energy. Please feel free to use it to stuff it to them too.
1) The best I.C.E. is 18% efficient, 20% on a good day.
2) The process of brute force electrolysys today has been pushed to about 85% Faraday.
Note: Based on the caloric energy available from burning Hydrogen, by using Faraday's "Law" to translate from electrical energy it is estimated that 100% efficient hydrogen electrolysis is achieved by creating somewhere between 5.5-7.5 milliliters of gas per minute per watt of energy consumed. Members of our research group have run the numbers several ways which all seem to point to around 7.0 m/m/w or mmw for short. Many of our cells have operated as high as 6mmw or roughly 85% efficient
3) The product of electrolysis is HHO which has it's own energy value, up to 85% of what we put in.
If all we considered was the return of energy value when we inject the HHO as a suppliment to gasoline, then yes; Conservation of energy applies.
HOWEVER!
HHO as an additive does more than return 80% of the energy we put in to create it. It's properties enhance the slow burning gasoline, speeding up the rate of combustion, causing much more of the total combustion process to be translated into mechanical energy rather than being lost as waste heat out the tail pipe, raising the efficiency of the total system. Returning to the simple math...
4) Let's say we're able to translate just 10% more of the total system energy to mechanical energy. We have still not violated conservation of energy, only raised the total system efficiency to 28%. But that's an increase of 55%!!! Now deduct the energy loss of 15% to create the HHO that made this possible and you still end up with a total net gain of 40%!
This is not rocket science. It's simple math. And it works. The reality is some are getting even more, up to 35% mechanical efficiency, 94% gain, -15% to create the HHO, 79% total net gain. That's 54 MPG on a car that started out at 30. People are doing this. It is working. The move is on and there is no stopping it.
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