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- offthewagon, on 04/05/2009, -8/+58People want to believe humans are all powerful. When it comes down to it, nature is going to do whatever the ***** it wants.
- purplesawdust, on 04/05/2009, -10/+58global warming
–noun
an increase in the earth's average atmospheric temperature that causes corresponding changes in climate and that may result from the greenhouse effect.
Global Warming is real, you are just a dumbass - inactive, on 04/05/2009, -35/+81It's a cycle, the new warmth brought by global warming will bring an abundance of algae into the oceans, which use Carbon Dioxide to produce Oxegyn into the atmosphere bringing the earth back to homeostasis. It's earth's way of saying "***** you Al Gore."
- sarahlee, on 04/05/2009, -15/+46FTA - a word of caution: "However, scientists have warned against drawing false comfort from such findings. They point out that although levels will boost plant growth, other factors associated with climate change, such as rising temperatures and drought, are likely to have a negative effect."
- elhaf, on 04/05/2009, -16/+41What? You mean it's a dynamic system? We can't predict based on static models? Weird.
- offthewagon, on 04/05/2009, -5/+30It was when the earth was first created. That's where all those awesome O2s came from.
- AWBoy666, on 04/05/2009, -7/+30Buried for inaccurate title. The trees are growing faster due to rising CO2, NOT DUE TO WARMING.
You massacred the title of the article for your own political motivations. This story is a misrepresentation. - MeatyMcBeef, on 04/05/2009, -4/+27It depends on the type of algae we're talking about. Algae is the primary carbon sink on earth. There's more of it than trees by far and some species double their mass every 24 hours.
We happen to be living in a time where many factors are influencing global climate and the ecosystem, many of which we have no control over. That said, if we keep up the current rate of research and development of new cleaner/more sustainable technologies it will only be a few years before we begin to "break even" carbonwise.
It's no time to stop the research and it's no time to panic and push legislation. - seandfeeney, on 04/05/2009, -1/+20The balance of nature is fascinating
- theskillwithin, on 04/05/2009, -21/+39CO2 makes tree's grow much faster.
Trees put moisture into the atmosphere
Clouds caused by moisture blocks the sun and cools the planet. - inactive, on 04/05/2009, -24/+41Climate change must be stopped. Global warming was responsible for 37248 traffic fatalities and 8439 forcible rapes in 2007.
- a3r0, on 04/05/2009, -3/+17False comfort in the interpretation of facts, not the facts themselves
- AWBoy666, on 04/05/2009, -0/+14[citation needed]
- realpolitik, on 04/05/2009, -3/+15Anyone who thinks this article means that trees will absorb ALL anthropogenic CO2 emissions that would otherwise lead to adverse climate change is a FREAKING MORON.
Just because an ecological process partly counteracts climate change DOES NOT mean that it fully counteracts climate change.
Look at the submission summary:
"...potentially buying Earth more time to address global warming."
MAYBE we will have SOME UNSPECIFIED AMOUNT OF MORE TIME to address our carbon emission practices. But we still need to address them.
Finally, trees do not resolve the climate change that attends non-CO2 green house gas emissions (e.g. methane, NO2, etc), which the IPCC has found contribute equally to global warming.
So basically, this aritcle asserts that we might have a little more time to address half of the cause of global warming, possibly. - realpolitik, on 04/05/2009, -6/+18The oceans are becoming more acidic BECAUSE of carbon emissions.
Increased levels of atmospheric carbon => increased absorption of carbon by oceans => lower pH (i.e. increased acidity).
The authoritative study from 2003: http://antalya.uab.es/icta/activitats/doc_seminari ...
There's nothing worse than idiots spouting disinformation. - jasdf, on 04/05/2009, -6/+18Nature is full of so many positive and negative feedbacks that nobody can truly know what will happen.
- chthonical, on 04/05/2009, -3/+14The big issue is that humans and other creatures need to be able to survive the period in which kingdom plantae will flourish while kingdom animalia suffers.
- itsbob, on 04/05/2009, -13/+24Global warming is good for the environment?
- brainflakes, on 04/05/2009, -0/+10"Marking the start of the Eocene, Earth heated up in one of the most rapid (in geologic terms) and extreme global warming events recorded in geologic history, called the Paleocene-Eocene Thermal Maximum or Initial Eocene Thermal Maximum (PETM or IETM). This was an episode of rapid and intense warming (up to 7°C at high latitudes) that lasted less than 100,000 years [2]. The Thermal Maximum provoked a sharp extinction event that distinguishes Eocene fauna from the ecosystems of the Paleocene."
Doesn't sound like it was all positive - adeelarshad82, on 04/05/2009, -13/+23after enough people bury your comment you won't be real here.
- WasabiBomb, on 04/05/2009, -7/+17... especially when it's obvious that random guys on the internet know more than any climatologist in the world. Right?
- realpolitik, on 04/05/2009, -2/+12@crazymonkey
You just said that "What we really should be worried about is the rising acidity of our oceans and seas."
I furnished evidence which indicates that anthropogenic carbon emissions are the primary cause of increasing ocean acidity.
You respond by saying that "global warming is a farce."
There's just no way you can be deeply concerned about ocean acidity while still maintaining that global warming is a farce. Those are fundamentally incongruent beliefs. Jesus. - inactive, on 04/05/2009, -0/+10We are like water on a dog....one good shake bt nature and we are gone!
- AmnesiacJack, on 04/05/2009, -11/+20You mean the Earth is doing what it's been doing for millions of years and balancing its self out?
HOLY *****. - nard3456, on 04/05/2009, -6/+15One thing that gets me about global warming:
If nothing on Earth is constant then isn't it possible for the climate to fluctuate naturally?
Oh well what does it matter some eco-freak is just gonna bury me anyway - Arramol, on 04/05/2009, -1/+10Thank you. It's like people can only grasp climate change as either "happening" or "not happening." They can't seem to comprehend that it can slow down or pause without halting entirely. Kind of like how they don't seem to understand that there can be more than one factor involved (ie, people who think that because the sun affects climate, ALL changes in climate MUST be because of the sun, there can be no other causes).
- disappointed, on 04/05/2009, -2/+11It's not a cycle. The climate is a non-linear system. It's chaotic. There are effects that counter other effects and act proportionately to the inverse of the cause but that's not the same as a cycle.
And even if it were a cycle; try playing with a pendulum. It swings back and forth but if you give it a little push it'll still swing back and forth but it'll go much further each time. You don't want that happening with the temperature - the Earth will right itself but in the meantime millions of people will die.
See, environmentalism's not about saving the Earth - that can look after itself - it's about saving people's lives by protecting the environment they need to survive. - Wosat, on 04/05/2009, -5/+13Is this phenomenon included in the computer models? I'm guessing not.
- WasabiBomb, on 04/05/2009, -5/+13So by all means, let's pump out as much CO2 as we want! Mother Nature will take care of it FOR us!
It's funny how the chain of events you've drawn directly supports the conclusion you WANT. - Peko, on 04/05/2009, -2/+10[citation needed]
- kolop1, on 04/05/2009, -7/+15The Earth is not going anywhere you morons.
- realpolitik, on 04/05/2009, -1/+8"Cripes, you people constantly make stuff up."
"All I'm saying is that the Earth goes through natural climate change, and the Earth corrects for it all on it's own." - goodinohio, on 04/05/2009, -7/+14False.
- Peko, on 04/05/2009, -1/+8a subset of facts != perspective
- bearcat8543, on 04/05/2009, -11/+18global warming also put us into this recession! and not to mention the reason why the cubs havent won it yet!!
- Frnnkdlxx, on 04/05/2009, -18/+25OH GOD NO! My reasoning skills were burnt out long ago due to television, but even this is starting to set them ablaze. Carbon Dioxide is inhaled by plants and exhaled as oxygen for us in a beautiful cycle of glorious continuity(i wish I knew bigger words).
But no... NO!!! Al Gore HAD to be right! Even though he has stock in large oil companies and also has a large holding in "carbon offsetting credit" companies... Oh jesus, please keep me from seeing the light. I don't know what i'd be able to do if I were forced to go against the mainstream of opinion. - fury420, on 04/05/2009, -2/+9you know, you are correct crazymonkey, there is far too much diversity & life in the oceans as it is, everything would be so much better if 80% of the world's coral reefs died off, right?
- RyanBlueThunder, on 04/05/2009, -4/+1190% of the guns in the Mexican drug wars were created by global warming
- dOOBiEx213, on 04/05/2009, -4/+10Nope, just an imbecile... my guess: conservative.
- bombula, on 04/05/2009, -4/+10I guess it sucks that 25% of CO2 emissions come from deforestation, huh?
- MrBussi, on 04/05/2009, -1/+7You seem to be suggesting that the biosphere remains in the same state since it 'self corrects'. Sure its in constant equilibrium , but the equilibrium shifts, hence temperature fluctuations. If we have reasonable belief that global warming is gonna massively damage the economy for our future generations, is it not reasonable to try and prevent it / reduce the damage?
- tpmidd, on 04/05/2009, -1/+7Damn nature, you scary!
- brainflakes, on 04/05/2009, -2/+8It's going to take more then an article to make globing warming go away, it'll take something called action.
- akchrs, on 04/05/2009, -5/+11This is great news for the lumber industry.
- Shiftgood, on 04/05/2009, -6/+11Well I think in the years after the last extinction event (the Eocene epoch) the global temperatures were some of the highest... which caused an explosion of forestation that spread from pole to pole (palm trees in Alaska even). The forests were so thick and bountiful with nutrients that all of modern mammals and most other lifeforms began during this time. (reptiles that survived the even continued to live, flourish again)
things that make you go hmmmm... - greenfyre, on 04/06/2009, -1/+6Maybe eventually ... but first 100,000 years of desertification
http://blogs.edf.org/climate411/2008/01/14/global_ ...
You up for a 4,000 generation famine? - 15thPD, on 04/05/2009, -2/+7This global warming is different than any other. We have air conditioners and insulated housing, heck we even have air conditioned vehicles with UV-proof windows. I'm sure another period of global warming wouldn't cause the human race to become extinct.
- fungie5, on 04/05/2009, -0/+5Trees need water, sunlight, CO2 and nutrients from the soil to grow - and they need these in the right quantities. While increasing CO2 levels would enable some trees to grow a bit faster right now, climate change will end up reducing the total number of trees and plants because it will affect the total annual rainfall in many forested areas. It isn't going to matter how much CO2 is in the atmosphere when persistent droughts caused by regional changes in climate start to kill off large sectors of forested land. Right now, we have a situation where the polar ice caps are melting more and more. And, in case some of you haven't heard, there's a HUGE amount of CO2 trapped in the ice - until it melts. As more ice melts, more CO2 is released, more heat is trapped and the melting accelerates further, releasing more CO2.
- bombula, on 04/05/2009, -8/+13The net effect on the biosphere is likely to be either neutral or positive. Certainly for biodiversity a warmer climate with a bit more CO2 is better than an ice age where 50% of the land mass is covered in a mile of ice.
The Earth could care less about climate change. It's humans that global warming sucks for. 10 foot rise in sea level will be bad news for coastal cities like New York, LA, DC, Miami, Boston, London, Hong Kong, Beijing, etc, etc, etc.
The fundie global warming deniers think Al Gore is a tree hugger. But it's people that are the concern. The planet will be fine. - realpolitik, on 04/05/2009, -1/+6Non sequitur. Clouds = condensation of water vapor, but that's not even the point I was arguing.
When moisture is added into the air, you can't precisely say whether that moisture will result in warming or cooling because of the dense involution of cloud dynamics. Also, research cited by the IPCC indicates that certain types of clouds contribute to warming, while others contribute to cooling, further complicating the matter.
theskillwithin's assertion that the moisture from trees results in global cooling is completely unsubstantiated, the OPPOSITE is probably happening, and he should absolutely not be dugg up. -
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