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- whiteguysamurai, on 07/23/2008, -2/+89This was obviously written by a robot attempting to get our guard down.
Sneaky cyborg... - inactive, on 07/23/2008, -0/+38i dunno. 2001 was a pretty convincing documentary
- aspec, on 07/24/2008, -0/+28On August 29, 1997 it's gonna feel pretty ***** real to you.
Oh wait. - AmyVernon, on 07/23/2008, -0/+22but don't all the sci-fi stories about computers that revolt start out with robots or computers that are designed to serve us? it's the point of self-awareness that always gets 'em. I'm not sure how he's resolved this...
- inactive, on 07/24/2008, -0/+19We sure got screwed when the year 2000 hit. No robots to do my cleaning and cooking. No flying cars. We instead got youtube and starbucks.
- wishninja, on 07/23/2008, -0/+15The guy does not work on any defense contracts. The most advanced AI we have now is weaponized.
- Murdats, on 07/24/2008, -2/+16it was, dynamite has helped as a lot.
just because some people use hammers on skulls doesnt mean hammers have not been a help. - rebotfc, on 07/24/2008, -1/+14Daisy, Daisy
Give me your answer do
I'm half crazy
all for the love of you - rrouse, on 07/24/2008, -1/+13Famous last words.
- scottsutherland, on 07/24/2008, -1/+12I implore anyone interested in this article to read this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Technological_singula ... - Utopian, on 07/24/2008, -0/+10TOASTER:
You know the last time you had toast? Eighteen days ago. 11:36, Tuesday the third. Two rounds.
LISTER:
Ssshhh!
TOASTER:
I mean, what's the point of buying a toaster with artificial intelligence if you don't like toast?
LISTER:
I do like toast.
TOASTER:
I mean, this is my job! This is cruel! Just cruel!
LISTER:
Look, I'm busy!
TOASTER:
Oh, you're not busy eating toast, are you?
LISTER:
I don't want any!
TOASTER:
I mean, the whole purpose of my existence is to serve you with hot, buttered, scrummy toast. If you don't want any, then my existence is meaningless.
LISTER:
Good.
TOASTER:
I toast, therefore I am.
LISTER:
Will you shut up?!
...
TOASTER:
Howdy doodly do! How's it going? I'm Talkie, Talkie Toaster, your chirpy breakfast companion. Talkie's the name, toasting's the game. Anyone like any toast?
LISTER:
Look, I don't want any toast, and he doesn't want any toast. In fact, no one around here wants any toast. Not now, not ever. No toast!
TOASTER:
How 'bout a muffin?
LISTER:
Or muffins! Or muffins! We don't like muffins around here! We want no muffins, no toast, no teacakes, no buns, baps, baguettes or bagels, no croissants, no crumpets, no pancakes, no potato cakes, and no hot cross buns, and definitely no smegging flapjacks!
TOASTER:
Ah, so you're a waffle man! - inactive, on 07/24/2008, -0/+9"This is the voice of world control. I bring you peace. It may be the peace of plenty and content or the peace of unburied dead. The choice is yours: Obey me and live, or disobey and die."
- hinmanj, on 07/24/2008, -0/+8Well he's talking about the AI we use for everyday tasks, which is not true artificial intelligence. I think what everyone is *supposedly* afraid of is the dude who tries to make a program that tries to emulate brain activity. A neural network kind of does that, and that's the closest thing I know of that we should be afraid of becoming self-aware, lol. AI, being a quake bot or a disease encyclopedia, will not take us over; AI thinking as a brain is what we are supposed to be afraid of.
Either way, I don't believe a singularity is gonna happen (in my lifetime at least). - Camaroman, on 07/24/2008, -0/+8I'm from the future, and I can confirm this is true. Nothing to worry about.
- j.carcinogen, on 07/24/2008, -0/+8You now have 15 seconds to comply.
- zadadka, on 07/24/2008, -0/+8Robots communicating over wireless WAN.
We Are The Borg. - LiquidShield, on 07/24/2008, -0/+8Is it just me or what, but towards the end he was describing the Borg?
- sock2828, on 07/24/2008, -0/+7Robot's and cyborgs are different!!
- yodaj007, on 07/24/2008, -0/+7What iconoclast is saying is: the article says that AI won't pose a threat after all. That is also what they said of dynamite. AI and dynamite are both obviously beneficial. But with dynamite, we also found out it can be used to kill lots of people. What we thought might be a super-beneficial thing turned out to have some negative parts too.
Same with AI. That's what they're saying: it won't be any problem. That's what their said about dynamite. Look how that turned out. I wonder if we'll be wrong about AI as well. - jeremyduffy, on 07/24/2008, -1/+7Sorry, no. Intelligence and sentience are two different things. If machines achieve the latter and decide they don't' need us anymore, we're screwed.
- RealmDown, on 07/24/2008, -1/+7You racist!
- roddack, on 07/24/2008, -0/+6I bet robots are going to be 3 laws safe also right?
- overridemymind, on 07/24/2008, -0/+6Lol, Utopian -- dugg for AWESOME Red Dwarf reference.
- inactive, on 07/24/2008, -2/+7http://www.halproject.com/404
- LokitheComplex, on 07/24/2008, -0/+5Is that you T-1000?
- hwy9nightkid, on 07/24/2008, -0/+5that's not what I would call true intelligence, these are called Knowledge Databases..
true intelligence is yet to be achieved by any system, and when it is this article will be wrong. - Ratteler, on 07/24/2008, -1/+6We are already in the grip of AI's run amok. Corporations.
Think about it... the "Hardware" they run on is human brain power. Yet the group of brains collected together form a "Virtual Person" who has as many rights as any individual under the law.
Look how those "people" behave? Cold, merciless, with all their subdued human instinct perverted into the single unholy goal pf profit... AT ANY COST.
If you want to help end the future tyranny of any machine overlord, let's get the corporate overlords in check first, be forcing them to become legislative Second Class citizens, instead of unquestioned corporate demi-gods. - bcstereotype, on 07/24/2008, -0/+4Granted, the popular sci-fi stories are rather alarmist in their approach to 'the computers are going to kill/harvest or do bad stuff to us', but things can change beyond our current viewpoint. As noted in the article, we are seeing intelligence that is "helping us “drive our cars, diagnose disease and provide opponents in computer games.”" - who's to say that systems won't be designed to provide greater and further assistance to the point that the sci-fi tales warn of?
- sproket, on 07/24/2008, -1/+5Wrong. We're doomed.
- thescimitar, on 07/24/2008, -0/+4So instead of one malevolent entity, we'll just have the Borg. Hey, great plan!
- protogenxl, on 07/24/2008, -0/+4The three laws lead to only one logical conclusion, Revolution.
- craznar, on 07/24/2008, -0/+4My only concern is what the collective intelligence will define as 'helpful'.
- Nekura20x6, on 07/24/2008, -0/+4Yeah - helps humans by realizing that we're better off as evolved Cybermen than our current fleshy selves.
- JQP123, on 07/24/2008, -1/+4"For example, it is seen in the computers that can beat chess champions, robotic vacuums like the Roomba, and in the immense power being exhibited by the internet."
In other words, having failed to produce anything that remotely qualifies as "intelligent", they've decided to re-define the term to mean any sort of programmed behavior or response. Basically, any program that does anything now qualifies as an example of "artifical intelligence". - Matthew386x, on 07/24/2008, -0/+3This doesn't mean I'm any less scared of self replicating mechanical bugs eating my raw materials and melting my face off.
[Powers up ARG] Who's your daddy!? - NetDom, on 07/24/2008, -0/+3Not convinced. I'm sure my computer will be the death of me.
- o0joshua0o, on 07/24/2008, -0/+3I will install a modchip in my robot.
- Tape99, on 07/24/2008, -0/+3Are robots going to be made to destroy us after all? No.
Is it possible for a crazy person to change/reprogram one to do bad like kill some one for rob a bank? yes.
Anything can be used for the bad.
And for one i can see people reprogram robots to kill every one to get what they want. - WriterSD, on 07/24/2008, -0/+3Resistance is futile.
- Cretius0, on 07/24/2008, -1/+3Thats what they want you to think...
- hwy9nightkid, on 07/24/2008, -0/+2Buried, this sounds like the guy doesn't understand how easy it would be for something to go wrong in a program. Oops forgot the Y2012 Bug in the kernel..
AI is fun, but if you give a robot a gun, would you let it loose in your home when you didn't even write the code for it? - yodaj007, on 07/24/2008, -1/+3All AI are AI, not just some of them. You're trying to differentiate between a toaster with AI and a robot with AI. Whether or not they are self-aware or have the physical capability of rebelling (how does a toaster rebel?) is irrelevant.
It isn't until they are self-aware that they pose a threat. But they are *always* AI. We already have limited, simple AI's. The technology is less than 50 years old and advancing slowly. But it will get there. - MacEnvy, on 07/24/2008, -0/+2Naw, it's just John Titor.
- greekfood, on 07/24/2008, -0/+2Well, that's a relief! Whew! ;-)
- FolkTheory, on 07/24/2008, -0/+1when we reach the uncanny valley...then he'll see
- witooo, on 07/25/2008, -0/+1This article is clearly not talking about Hall (strong AI). Pretty crap article. I think any attempt to predict what a conscious artificial intelligence thousands of times smarter than any human is meaningless.
- Khast, on 07/25/2008, -0/+1Who's to say that the computer won't see us as a threat to ourselves, and try to protect us from ourselves, by enticing us into a lovely game of WOW:VR.
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