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- lnxfi, on 07/15/2009, -6/+83That's the reason I'm fat. Improper labeling. I've been looking for an excuse so it's not my fault and I'm not very fond of the word 'glandular'.
- eastwood24, on 07/15/2009, -2/+32So how will this new finding affect my consumption of chocolate covered bacon w/ nacho cheese and country gravy dippin sauces?
- abadonn, on 07/15/2009, -1/+27The whole 2000 calorie diet is complete bull. If you live an office ass lifestyle you need no more than 1500 per day. That is why america is fat. Well that and the damn food pyramid. 8-12 servings of carbs per day my ass. Did you ever stop to wonder why the food pyramid is put out by the Department of Agriculture?
/rant - amabaie, on 07/15/2009, -5/+31Fod labels are indeed flawed. How is it that a can of peas or beans can contain huge amounts of vitamins that get destroyed when heated? Canning involves extreme temperatures. I am certain the food producers have managed to lobby to list the nutrient content pre-packaging on all jars and cans. Nothing beats fresh fruit and salads.
- mrjit, on 07/15/2009, -1/+25I like that most packages of Bacon (turkey bacon now) that I purchase list their serving size was ONE SLICE. Who the ***** eats one slice of bacon?
- SkippyDoorknob, on 07/15/2009, -0/+21And play a tuba as you follow them around.
- frequentFlyer, on 07/15/2009, -1/+22I can't stand Dr. Phil, but I happened to catch a part of his show one day when he said, "Follow a fat person around for a day, and you'll find out why they are fat".
- cawfee, on 07/15/2009, -1/+18We can start with putting the nutritional information on restaurant menus.
- Zdorab, on 07/15/2009, -1/+18I would be overjoyed if there was a more accurate and widely used food labeling system.
- babyheadout, on 07/15/2009, -0/+14See Brian Regan's bit about serving sizes of Fig Newtons. "Serving size says 'two cookies'! I eat Fig Newtons by the sleeve."
- Rivfader, on 07/15/2009, -2/+16Most of us people who are overweight its more due to lifestyle than diet. Like me for example, I probably eat less than 2300 calories a day, however I don't do *****. I work at a desk job, and I go home and I sit and watch tv or play video games. Or I go out and drink beer.
- Scrappy1850, on 07/15/2009, -1/+15you don't win friends with salad.
- sageisgay, on 07/15/2009, -2/+16seriously, quit counting calories, sugars, fats, etc. you know what you're eating is bad for you. either don't eat it or quit over eating it oh yeah and EXERCISE. reminds me of those people who get low calories snack packs and eat five of them in one sitting and never do any physical activities and then complain that they're fat.
- McSwankypants, on 07/15/2009, -0/+13Wait, you don't deep fry it too? Amateur.
- urgeigh, on 07/15/2009, -2/+14Why the ***** do you care what other people eat? Like you're going to get fat by proxy or something..
- sauron256, on 07/15/2009, -0/+10Food labels may be inaccurate, but calorie counting helped me get from 240 pounds down to my current weight of 180 pounds, fit and with much more muscle mass.
It's easy to bash it, but for the vast majority of people, calorie counting does help in losing weight. - sockpuppets, on 07/15/2009, -1/+10Fod is General Zod's higher calorie brother.
- cugar, on 07/15/2009, -1/+9wut
- inactive, on 07/15/2009, -1/+9Everything in moderation.
Or, blame it on the labels. - EtherGnat, on 07/15/2009, -0/+8"Nothing beats fresh fruit and salads."
Because store bought produce is frequently picked long before it's actually ripe (reducing nutrients) frozen fruits and vegetables can be more healthy because they are allowed to fully mature.
Nothing beats freshly picked if you can get it though. - sockpuppets, on 07/15/2009, -0/+8How is babby formed?
- mongo25, on 07/15/2009, -1/+8Below taken from a good article regarding calories: http://www.tmuscle.com/free_online_article/sports_ ...
The assumption that fat tissue isn't regulated at all is almost naive beyond belief. Every other part of the human body is well regulated, but fat tissue is just this garbage can that all these empty extra calories get dumped into. And it just happily expands, despite having these deleterious effects all over your body.
The idea of homeostasis, where you want to keep the internal environment stable regardless of what else is happening, was first discussed in the 1860s by a French scientist named Claude Bernard. Are our fat cells somehow exempt from this?
As you get fatter, homeostasis gets thrown out of whack, because among other things, fat is a good insulator. So your body starts getting hotter. Now you have to cool it down in ways you didn't have to before. You start sweating, and when you lose body fluids, the salt content in the blood gets higher. All kinds of things start going awry when you start getting fatter.
It makes absolutely no sense that your fat tissue wouldn't be regulated, and yet these people believe that obesity is all about calories.
So what's regulating the growth of the fat tissue?
The answer, which we've known since the early 1960's, is insulin. Insulin is the hormone that primarily regulates fat accumulation. If you want to get fat out of your fat tissue, you have to lower your insulin levels.
And insulin is regulated for all intents and purposes by the carbohydrates in our diet. That's the simplest possible hypothesis. The physicist would call it "the zero-order approximation."
Other hormones play roles, and most of them work to get fat out of the fat tissue, but they can't do it if insulin levels are elevated. Adrenaline, growth hormones, all these things work to make you leaner, but they don't work if insulin levels are elevated.
And this has never been controversial. That's the weird thing.
The remainder of the article dives into this further... I just selected some bits of it. - Nikobelia, on 07/15/2009, -2/+9Food*
But - yeah. - AmnesiacJack, on 07/15/2009, -0/+6Dugg for mouthwateringly good recipe.
- SAKevin, on 07/15/2009, -0/+6I do . Then another. And another. And...
- nipterink, on 07/15/2009, -2/+8inaccurate and wrong are synonyms
- sockpuppets, on 07/15/2009, -0/+6Unless you're in prison.
- theartfuldodgr, on 07/15/2009, -0/+5The government should not ban these foods just for the pure fact that they didn't make people fat, people make themselves fat. It's called self control and moderation, the government shouldn't have to tell us what we can and can't eat.
- drgmdp, on 07/16/2009, -2/+7LEAVE SYNTAXGS ALONE!!!!111
- groo68, on 07/15/2009, -0/+5Sorry, sockpuppets, but you gonna die.
- SkippyDoorknob, on 07/15/2009, -0/+4I guess I ate too many labels...
- Rivfader, on 07/15/2009, -0/+4Heh, yeah you are probably right. I might want to consider to keeping em down even more than that. One good thing I did was replace potato chips with fruit. Now to get my ass back to the gym, thats the hard part.
I don't really give a damn about that silly food pyramid either. - nepidae, on 07/15/2009, -1/+5"You check the labels: the brownie contains around 250 kilocalories (kcal), while the muesli bar contains more than 300. Surprised at the higher calorie count of what looks like the healthy option, you go for the brownie."
You is a moron. - Rivfader, on 07/15/2009, -3/+7Hey NJRF why don't you unclench your ***** a bit? What do you eat for breakfast? A piece of lettuce?
People like different *****, learn to live with it. - inactive, on 07/15/2009, -2/+6No. We're overweight because we snack too much, eat bigger portions than we need, and don't exercise nearly enough. Quit looking for excuses. There's nothing more sad than watching a fatty making up excuse after excuse.
- theartfuldodgr, on 07/15/2009, -1/+5I go to the gym 3 times a week and run atleast 2-3 times a week. I don't look at food labels, I just use common sense. Avoid prepackaged and fast food, eat a balanced diet of veggies, meats and carbs, combined with exercise and you should have nothing to worry about.
- Scottamus, on 07/16/2009, -0/+4It's called chewing. give it a try sometime.
- ElChapusero, on 07/15/2009, -0/+4becosue
- EtherGnat, on 07/15/2009, -0/+4Actually a lot of people don't know what's bad for them. I see people all the time who think they're eating healthy by having a salad or chicken, not realizing that it's prepared in such a way to have more fat than a large burger.
Hell, I've been watching what I eat for a long time and consider myself knowledgeable, and I still run across things that are surprisingly high/low in fat and calories regularly. Particularly with prepared food (either from the supermarket or a restaurant) nutritional info can vary wildly for the same product based on how it's prepared. - GvnMcCld, on 07/15/2009, -0/+4As of Jan 1st in Seattle (King County) all chains have to put nutritional info on their menus or in a separate menu. It's a step in the right direction at least.
- sockpuppets, on 07/15/2009, -1/+4Finally, an article on this. Not to be gross about it but how can corn and peanuts give me all those calories when I poop the majority of them out the next day?
- 10lbhammer, on 07/15/2009, -3/+6serious lee, syntaxgs, can you stop doing this in ever ee ***** thread?
- sauron256, on 07/15/2009, -0/+3Guess we should all follow Dr Phil around then...
- EdCenter, on 07/15/2009, -0/+3it's just easier to blame labels and the big bad corporations that print them
- urgeigh, on 07/15/2009, -0/+3Heh, I was looking at turkey bacon not too long ago at Kroger and it actually had almost identical calories and saturated fat as regular bacon and WAY more sodium. I don't remember the exact numbers but I was pretty surprised.
- Flagg3, on 07/16/2009, -0/+3New York City requires all restaurants to do this now, and I think it's great.
And FYI, a cobb salad could contain 200 calories at one restaurant, or 2,000 calories at another. Being as how people going to a restaurant are usually not psychic, providing this information on the menu is an excellent idea. - ohcyrus, on 07/15/2009, -1/+4It will increase it.
- poppabk, on 07/15/2009, -1/+4This is just more fad diet *****. There is a complex interplay of different factors, carbohydrate intake, glucose levels, insulin, fat intake, protein intake, growth factors, activity, hormones, age, metabolism all of them interrelated by other processes. You can't just pluck the relationship between carbohydrate and insulin from the mix and expect that to be the key to success. If you eat nothing but fat - you will get fat (shortly before you die)
- Gizza, on 07/16/2009, -0/+2Actually, buying frozen veges and steaming them is the best way. Microwave is good too. Boiling on the other hand removes most nutrients.
Fresh veges lose most of their nutrients in shipping so by the time you get them home they're already worthless.
Frozen veges are flash frozen shortly after picking which seals in the nutrients. - Sagard, on 07/16/2009, -0/+2you're misinformed about the difference between a calorie and a Calorie. A Calorie (uppercase) is equal to a 1000 calories (lowercase). Ergo, the terms Calorie and kilocalorie are interchangeable.
Normal people need to eat ab out 2000 - 2500 Calories on a daily basis. -
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