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- str3ama, on 11/01/2007, -1/+10"claiming the lives of innocent children in their wake"
wow..you really vilify the bugs as if they have a socio-political agenda. lol. I really doubt the bugs are assessing which children are nice or naughty and then attacking them based on that. - inactive, on 11/01/2007, -0/+5Not true tardo. The ones that are not killed on "contact" were not killed because they really were not in "contact with the killing agent.
Also -- a lot of these people that can not resist these infections already have some sort problem with their immune system. A healthy immune system has no problem killing these bugs. - sockpuppets, on 11/01/2007, -3/+8I didn't digg you down before but I will now.
- nazadus, on 11/01/2007, -0/+5*ding* *ding* *ding* *ding* *ding*
You win TWO free interwebs!
But in all seriousness... subby must be trying to learn from FOX/ABC/NBC - sockpuppets, on 10/31/2007, -2/+5I thought they were manufactured by Volkswagen.
- inactive, on 10/31/2007, -0/+3TB was nearly wiped out in the 80's until Reagan cut off the funding.
- vertinox, on 10/31/2007, -0/+2Do you eat soap and drink purell when you are sick? No because that would kill you as well as the bacteria.
What people are concerned about is the bacteria that get immune to the antibiotics which are used after you get infected. Obviously, you can't drink a gallon of bleach when the antibiotics no longer work. - CaptainTater, on 10/31/2007, -1/+3So staph infections are news to all of you?
- inactive, on 10/31/2007, -0/+2Good nutrition, exercise and HYGIENE will always win. Damn the drugs.
- vertinox, on 10/31/2007, -0/+2Um.... You do understand that you can't kill viruses with antibiotics. You can only get immunity to viruses.
On the flip side you can't get immunity to bacteria. The only way to kill them is to let your white blood cells hopefully kill them or use anti-biotics. - InferiorWang, on 10/31/2007, -0/+2when the non-alcohol chemical is an antibiotic, then it is possible.
- karmakanic, on 10/31/2007, -1/+2Staphylococcus aureus (staph) is not a virus. It's a bacteria. They're very different things, albeit small to the point of being invisible, and occasionally unfriendly to humans.
- Boshow, on 10/31/2007, -1/+2I blame Purell.
- tehpwnrate, on 10/31/2007, -2/+3So your argument is, that by treating and saving millions upon millions of lives with medication, we're going to create a "superbug" that is less likely to kill me than a lightning strike? Oh teh noes!
In World War I, more people died of disease than bullets. - Krabid, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1Wash your hands with soap and hot water as often as possible. Keep cuts covered until healed. Don't share things that can spread bacteria.
Note to stupid doctors and parents: Antibiotics are used for bacterial infections, not cold and flu viruses!!!
You can kill bacteria. You can't kill a virus.
This isn't rocket science. - LeeMaple, on 10/31/2007, -4/+5The more you strain an organism the more it strives to survive. Virus' evolve thousands of times faster than we do and if you try to kill them, they find a way to resist. Super bugs are manufactured out of our own ignorance..
- DeviantDragon, on 10/31/2007, -2/+3Apparently have never heard of the drug resistance that happened with Tuberculosis which has lead to some particularly drug-resistant strains that are barely cured with a few medicines. The point isn't necessarily to not kill so much bacteria, but apply these antibiotics in a fashion that is consistent and complete so that none are left. TB resistance often occurs when patients fail to take the medical regiment in a timely and responsible manner. Also, development of new drugs is necessary for these worst case bugs.
- Felekar, on 10/31/2007, -2/+3He's talking about the antibacterial soaps, sprays, wipes, and such that use something other than alcohol.
- Manbeast01, on 10/31/2007, -2/+3It's a flawed argument, the amount of bacteria on a surface that Sanitizers touch is minuscule compared to the amount that improper use of Antibiotics leaves in your body, its the over prescription and misuse of Antibiotics (Keflex, Penicillin, etc.) that leave behind these drug resilient strains. Saying that wiping my hands with alcohol makes an infection that serious antibiotics can't kill makes as much sense as saying you can get herpes from a toilet seat, it's not backed up backed up by science.
- bemenaker, on 10/31/2007, -1/+2Quit buying antibacterial soap!!
- mumugugu, on 10/31/2007, -2/+3Reminds me of this video by the Discovery Institute (an intelligent design proponent)
"Is antibiotic resistance evidence for Darwinian evolution?"
http://youtube.com/watch?v=rYaU4moNEBU - schoate09, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU
- dime, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1Unfortunately the government can't cure stupid.
I knew about the prevalence (and dangers) of antibiotics over 10 years ago... and I'm sure it was known before then. Prescribed antibiotics are only part of the problem - what about the ones given to the chickens and cows you eat daily? There's a reason you're starting to see organic products popping up as "no hormones/no rbsts/no antibiotics". People are starting to wake the ***** up. - fixedcoma, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1What ever happened to those certain light bulbs that gave off UV rays to help kill bacteria? Maybe those should be installed in schools and such and turned on after class is out of session!
- PinkFloydFan, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1A few children in a nearby school developed staph infections & my girlfriend's freaking out because of her child going to school. Yeah it's an example of a public outroar, but when it happens at your child's school it's a different story.
- inactive, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1Staphylococcus is pretty damn serious and its very PAINFUL. I actually got it on my toe by wearing someones flip-flops who had it. I did not get it as bad as I have seen- but it was almost as painful as a kidney stone. I responded to treatment, thankfully- but do not for a minute think that staph is not a serious concern.
- Aslan72, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1Probably the stupidest article I've seen here of late. The comparison between getting struck by lightning and getting MRSA is apples and oranges. I don't have the math in front of me, but I would guess that if it stormed every day and you had to walk outside every day of the year that your likelyhood of getting struck by lightning would increase. To me, that's the more likely of the scenerio for MRSA - a simple cut or bite and you've got it, and it's everywhere. Even just getting sick from it sucks. There needs to be more reform of antibiotic uses in animals and people or else this will get a bit more serious.
- inactive, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1That's the bad side of killing 99.9% of all germs on contact... The ones that aren't killed breed up into things like MRSA!
- Dakoman, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1antibodies are what your body creates to bind antigens, which can be chemicals, on the surface of bacteria, viruses, parasites etc. not just viruses.
- sensoukami, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1Uh...yes. What the ***** do you think it's evidence of? God?
- yodaj007, on 10/31/2007, -0/+1Ignorance can be cured, but stupid is forever.
- LeeMaple, on 10/31/2007, -1/+1The point is the eventually we lose, we don't evolve as fast. Find another way of practicing medicine other than scorched earth, treatments have to be more specialized.
- conna, on 10/31/2007, -2/+2MRSA is no joke. Just today my kids school sent home info saying they had one person with it.
- docbob84, on 10/31/2007, -0/+0Yeah... that's generally how it works. Only 99.9 percent of people will survive to create the new "race".
- JeffS, on 10/31/2007, -4/+4And last year it was the bird flu. This is just media sensationalism.
- docbob84, on 10/31/2007, -0/+0Unfortunately, you're wrong. There are bacteria that live in your stomach (Helicobacter pylori) as well as pH ranges from 0 (coal-mine runnoff) to 14 (higher than Drano). There are some that live in boiling hot springs in Yellowstone, and in lakes frozen beneath Antarctic ice. There are no conditions or environments known on our planet that have NO microbial life.
The unfortunate thing about antimicrobial products is that our immune systems see fewer bacteria than they would have a hundred years ago. It's like training soldiers; how are they supposed to fight something if they don't know what it looks like? in our age of cleanliness, we need to let our kids go outside and eat dirt and get scrapes, or else things like Staph that they should have been able to deal with just fine end up causing serious illness or death. - Jackson1264, on 10/31/2007, -0/+0This comes on the heels of a are recent CDC report and could effect us all at one time or another
http://slowdecline.wordpress.com/2007/10/23/diseas ... - RTMWTF, on 10/31/2007, -2/+2i know, off hand, half a dozen people who have this. All i can say is it aint *****, front what I have seen. Most people are affected by boils and nothing more...
dont go into panic over something that isn't worth worrying about. several physicians in the community have flat out stated it is nothing to worry about. - RoscoPColetrane, on 10/31/2007, -0/+0My neighbor thinks he got it from an overnight stay in an overcrowded jail, and he's not old. He claims he has outlived his doctor's prediction, but it looks worse every time I see him. Perhaps this is the new way we're dealing with criminals.
- Jackson1264, on 10/31/2007, -0/+0Disease knows no socio economic boundries
http://slowdecline.wordpress.com/2007/10/23/diseas ... - docbob84, on 10/31/2007, -0/+0Saying it will cause an antibiotic-resistant strain is indeed probably flawed. But it wouldn't be impossible to take a species which normally couldn't survive on, say, a table for more than five seconds, and make something that can by improper use of antibacterial agents.
- dmosher, on 10/31/2007, -1/+1Er... did you actually read the story?
"But need the masses live in fear of stubborn yet deadly microbes such as MRSA as their numbers rise worldwide, or are we overreacting?
Most medical experts think superbug diseases are here to stay but offer a major caveat: Only a fraction of the population need worry a little, if at all." - docbob84, on 10/31/2007, -0/+0Not necessarily antibiotic resistance, but it gives them resilience. To be effective, alcohol and the others have to be on your skin between twenty and thirty seconds. Count out twenty seconds... I'll wait... do you normally wash your hands that long, every time? Most people don't. The problem is, shorter times only kill the bacteria that are already weaker. That artificially selects for stronger mutations, which can handle more of what our bodies throw at them.
- mariestden, on 10/31/2007, -1/+1--"Knowledge is power, but you have to keep your head screwed on and act on common sense."
Common sense? Knowledge? Head? Screwed. - vertinox, on 10/31/2007, -1/+1Pop quiz! Can bacteria ever get immune to PH situations that are lethal to all living single cell organisms?
Answer: Highlight unlikely.
Can bacteria get immune to anti-biotics while inside humans?
Answer: Yes, because anti-biotics have to ingestible so that it doesn't kill the human taking the medicine. Hell... You could cure yourself of any bacterium by drinking a gallon of bleach, but of course you'll be dead as well.
Which is why washing your hands with soap and using purrell will never create super bacterium. Unless you eat soap and drink purrell.... There will never be a situation in which bacteria becomes immune to anti-biotics because you wash you hands.
A bacterium immune to bleach or soap probaly wouldn't be immune to the PH of your stomach acid. - vikingcoder, on 10/31/2007, -0/+0Not really. What causes this kind of situation is when you stop taking the prescribed dose half-way through because "you feel better". It's evolution in action.
- sensoukami, on 10/31/2007, -1/+1Buried as innaccurate! Obviously, these superbugs didn't EVOLVE because there is no such thing as evolution. Satan is creating these bugs! Or maybe it's God punishing us. Either way, it's got nothing to do with evolution....QED biyatches....
- ShyGuy91284, on 10/31/2007, -2/+1I agree with you fully... There have been a couple times when I was younger when my doctor gave me antibiotics because she could tell I had a throat infection even though it wasn't bad enough so that I felt any irritation. I was young so I took the meds... I'd refuse them now though. Caring doctor, but that's the kind of behavior that causes this kind if situation in the first place...
- rz8472, on 10/31/2007, -2/+1Quick, cover your ears in ignorance and start using more of that antibacterial soap!
- Static30, on 10/31/2007, -1/+0Oh so evaluation causes drug resistant super-bugs.
Hm. Maybe the survivors will then spawn a race of super-bug resistant humans.
See evaluation fixes everything.
Only the strong survive. -
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