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- prisoner24601, on 07/13/2008, -30/+258I'm in ur Verschränkung box, detekin ur subatomik partikles...
- wontstoptalking, on 07/13/2008, -9/+203I would digg this, then bury it, then digg it again (just so I could digg it twice) if instead they used Hubert J. Farnsworth from Futurama.
- inactive, on 07/13/2008, -17/+183http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_the_bleep
This movie was made by a CULT. "all of these individuals are students of Ramtha's School of Enlightenment."
"Skeptics such as James Randi described the film as "a fantasy docudrama" and "[a] rampant example of abuse by charlatans and cults."[21] The Committee for Skeptical Inquiry dismisses it as "a hodgepodge of all kinds of crackpot nonsense," where "science [is] distorted and sensationalized."[22] A BBC reviewer described it as "a documentary aimed at the totally gullible."[23]
Journalist John Gorenfeld, writing in Salon, notes that the film's three directors are students of Ramtha's School of Enlightenment, which he describes as having been called a "cult."[19]"
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It is PSEUDO-SCIENCE - urbano35, on 07/13/2008, -5/+144My stupid computer screwed up and I had to listen to this geezer say "completely BAFFLED" like 30 times.
- inactive, on 07/13/2008, -24/+160Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle FTW!
- pyro12, on 07/13/2008, -4/+138I'll be more impressed when someone posts the Schrodinger's Cat experiment.
- RSS14, on 07/13/2008, -7/+134This is a great video, but remember this: When they say the the particles "know" you are watching them, they don't mean it literally. They were kind of sensationalist, and made it sound as if the particles were sentient or something. Other than that, awesome video.
- peaceninja, on 07/13/2008, -2/+124"unfair! you change the outcome by measuring it!"
-Professor Farnsworth at the horse track where the horse he bet against won in a quantum finish - aftern9ne, on 07/13/2008, -12/+132I had a girlfriend with double slits.
- shadowblade989, on 07/13/2008, -11/+128Needs moar follow-up.
- Anpheus, on 07/13/2008, -3/+115This is from an extremely controversial video that has been frowned upon by the scientific community. It equates quantum physics with a bit of magic and some shenanigans that aren't science at all. For example, there's nothing magical about observing (in the full video they treat humans as unique in our ability to "observe" and break down quantum patterns.)
Wikipedia article on the video: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_the_Bleep_Do_We_ ...
For those of you who have heard of James Randi, famous skeptic, he awared the movie a Pigasus award. It's an award given for outstanding achievement in the field of fraud and pseudoscience. - Colesif, on 07/13/2008, -4/+113"If you think you understand Quantum Theory, you don't understand Quantum Theory."
- thedeadwalrus, on 07/13/2008, -9/+111The movie is baloney.
In this clip, the science starts out correct, until they venture into the magic of "observing." It's not that mysterious - to observe something you need to "bounce" something off of the electron then observe the bounced-off object - in this case light particles are bounced off of the electron to observe it. The light particles interacting with the electron is what collapses the electron's wave function.
This is not at all similar to a human observing something and changing it - consciousness changing reality as it were. That is new age *****. Like this movie. - Pzycho, on 07/13/2008, -2/+101Which one did the marbles go through?
- Luigison, on 07/13/2008, -4/+99This is a great video that I show my physics students every year, but don't buy the "What the Bleep Do We Know" DVD. It quickly presents quantum mechanics as a basis for pseudo scientific wishful thinking that has been repeatedly proved nonexistent. You can't wish something true. Quantum mechanics does not effect the macro world in ways the DVD suggests.
- davewelsh79, on 07/13/2008, -1/+80Electrons, photons, etc. are _always_ particles. The problem is that all matter has a waveform: electrons, a baseball, you, your dog, etc. The more massive the object, the smaller the waveform.
What is happening is not "observation," but high-powered photons hitting the electrons and collapsing the waveform. A photon smacking into an electron modifies the electron so you can't observe something without changing it. But even if no one was there to observe the electrons, the photons hitting the electrons would accomplish the same thing. - BlindingDawn, on 07/13/2008, -8/+84I had a double slit experiment once. They got pissed at me and made their own waveform.
- inactive, on 07/13/2008, -7/+81PLEASE bear in mind that this is from a pseudoscience laden movie called, literally, "What the bleep do we know?". It misrepresents what is going on.
This is the same movie that advocates the notion that your thoughts can literally affect the physical world, no joke. And it also purports the old "we only use ten percent of our brain" myth. It's full of bogus science, and has been criticized by scientists since it came out.
Also, contrary to what this film claims:
"The observer effect of quantum physics isn't about people or reality. It comes from the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle, and it's about the limitations of trying to measure the position and momentum of subatomic particles... this only applies to sub-atomic particles - a rock doesn't need you to bump into it to exist. It's there. The sub-atomic particles that make up the atoms that make up the rock are there too." - JustinHopewell, on 07/13/2008, -0/+69That was the 11th dimension, man.
- sethrubenstein, on 07/13/2008, -11/+75Absolutely fascinating stuff.
- inactive, on 07/13/2008, -16/+79This is from that movie "What the $#@! Do we know?" and was a stupid movie promoting a cult. Not only that but here comes all the pseudo-science in digg comments.
- phatboye, on 07/13/2008, -5/+66They should bring back Bill Nye the Science guy!!!!
- materia7, on 07/13/2008, -14/+75Far and away the best and simplest explanation of a classic experiment, fantastic post!
- wontstoptalking, on 07/13/2008, -9/+69"Like the marbles, we should get two bands.......WHAT???!!(dundundun) an interference pattern!"
GASP! - zenithmbr, on 07/13/2008, -23/+82God plays dice.
- alexforcefive, on 07/13/2008, -0/+58Did they at least let you observe it?
- wontstoptalking, on 07/13/2008, -5/+61I did this a while back too and all my fingers turned into leprecons ,and my cat turned into Bill Nye.
- LauraBlu, on 07/13/2008, -10/+66I actually did this a while back and it works!
- inactive, on 07/13/2008, -7/+57I did this a while back too and all my pound notes turned into dollar bills,and my hair turned ginger.
- Gutterpunk, on 07/13/2008, -1/+44Thats because you were listening to it (or, if you prefer, audibly measuring it). If you didn't listen, he would have said it only once.
- fajitamelt, on 07/14/2008, -1/+40The first part of this sentence turned into the second part of this sentence I did this a while back too and.
- dsmx, on 07/13/2008, -5/+42Doesn't change the fact that they are right in this case.
- nkstn, on 07/14/2008, -0/+35that's a boyfriend
- Roger, on 07/13/2008, -6/+40Or complete garbage: http://skeptico.blogs.com/skeptico/2005/04/what_th ...
- rbk303, on 07/13/2008, -4/+37Yep. And the dice are us.
- TheVirus, on 07/14/2008, -1/+33Welcome to the Internet. Now speak lolcat.
- staydead, on 07/13/2008, -0/+31Observing something requires interacting with that thing. We see things because light bounces off of those things. To detect a photon or electron or anything that thing has to interact with the detector. It's that interaction that causes the experiment to change.
Contrary to the cult funded film, it's not a result of consciousness.
There's different interpretations of it, some thing that there is a foam of parallel universes and each time something could happen one way or another (either the cat in the box with the poison activated by a quantum event is alive or dead) the universe splits and both happen. Another interpretation has the cat in the box being both alive and dead in a state of superposition, and observation collapses the wave function and one reality precipitates. In reality we don't really know for sure. - vassoom, on 07/14/2008, -0/+31Actually, I'm pretty sure I both understand it and don't understand it at the same time.
- Atomic05, on 07/13/2008, -0/+28Because observation isn't passive and the act of observation changes the particles, and thus the way they behave. Observing something as small as an electron requires special equipment and isn't completely passive, and when you think about it there really isn't any way to observe them passively anyway.
For example, even just looking at the electrons (which is impossible, just making a point) to see how they behave isn't passive as a photons of light must strike them and bounce back into your eye. - inactive, on 07/13/2008, -4/+32awesome? it was made by a cult to promote their beliefs, it has some scientific stuff in it but a LOT of *****
- synergye, on 07/14/2008, -3/+31Neither...when he tried measuring how many other men talked to her it created an interference pattern.
- blaired, on 07/13/2008, -1/+28dude! awesome......another Farnsworth quote I finally understand. I got some of the more basic science jokes, but I always felt like I was missing a lot from that show because I'm not a science guy. Still found it hilarious.
Anybody have a site that has explanations/references from Futurama as to what they're actually talking about? - xkingADROCKx, on 07/13/2008, -0/+26The video your watching is an extract from that film, i'm posting it as follow up.
- kurejibitch, on 07/13/2008, -4/+29"God does not play dice" = "Randomness does not lie at the heart of all things".
"To sense that behind anything that can be experienced there is a something that our mind cannot grasp and whose beauty and sublimity reaches us only indirectly and as a feeble reflection, this is religiousness. In this sense I am religious." -- Einstein - Wakkyweed, on 07/14/2008, -1/+24God plays dice, but I wouldn't suggest playing against him. He cheats.
- Kale27, on 07/13/2008, -1/+24I would post the experiment but then we would have a definitive post on the subject. By not posting it, the topic still exists as a post yet to be made and a non post.
- JT114881, on 07/14/2008, -0/+22Oh sorry I didn't know Digg was for Americans only. I guess everyone else will have to leave.
- inactive, on 07/13/2008, -1/+22Schrödinger did not wish to promote the idea of dead-and-alive cats as a serious possibility; quite the reverse: the thought experiment serves to illustrate the bizarreness of quantum mechanics and the mathematics necessary to describe quantum states. Several interpretations of quantum mechanics have been put forward in an attempt to resolve the paradox. How they treat it is often used as a way of illustrating and comparing their particular features, strengths and weaknesses.
- variablek, on 07/13/2008, -1/+22http://skeptico.blogs.com/skeptico/2005/04/what_th ...
- Iwantawii, on 07/14/2008, -1/+22http://www.instantrimshot.com/
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