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- DaMacGamer, on 10/12/2007, -10/+74"a study of more than 2,000 people" so 2,000 lucky bastards got to smoke pot for science? wow.
- shiftt, on 10/12/2007, -3/+66The article at hand is irrelevant, the politicians couldn't care less. They're going to keep preaching the same ***** they've been pushing for decades.
I say make it legal and make it a controlled substance. It'll put drug dealers out of business and lower crime rates, not to mention the billions of dollars in taxes the government would make. OR we can keep fighting a war that we'll never win.. - Gryffydd, on 10/12/2007, -2/+47You were on the Windows ME project team, weren't you?
- bongoman, on 10/12/2007, -5/+41rockforever said:
"Cannabis is amazing and interesting."
You said it - but of course it is heretical to suggest this in political and medical circles of the United States (and most other Western countries of course). I forget who said it ;-) but it was something along the lines of "Marijuana incapicitates the capacity to reason in those who are against it's use".
It is a War of fear against individual liberty and reason. 800,000 people a year in the United States are charged with cannabis cultivation/possession etc.
Pure ***** insanity. - rockforever, on 10/12/2007, -7/+42Yes I know its only a theroy... but "Tashkin speculates that perhaps the THC chemical in marijuana smoke prompts aging cells to die before becoming cancerous."
would this mean that marijuana would DECEASE your chance of getting lung cancer!? Cannabis is amazing and interesting. - heretic, on 10/12/2007, -6/+40Wow. This is an amazing result. If this plant was just 'discovered' and didn't have the 'social and political' baggage... it's potential uses would cause it to be called a super-plant.
- Tiabin, on 10/12/2007, -5/+39As cool and exciting as all of this is, pot can be "smoked" without the tar in the first place for the same high. They're called vaporizers, basically you pull heated air through the plant and it turns the juices into vapor so you can get them without smoking... Zero risk of cancer, or lung damage period. It's also pretty well-known that you use less of the plant from it as well. Now THAT decreases the risk of lung cancer. Smoking is dated, damaging, and pointless.
-- Tiabin
http://www.neurointerests.com/ - BrewedInTexas, on 10/12/2007, -1/+27I had a couple vaporiers back in the day but I never really liked them. They were nice and never harsh on the lungs but the high itself just felt different.
6 years smoke free :-/
"No, I don't do drugs anymore, either. But I'll tell you something about drugs. I used to do drugs, but I'll tell you something honestly about drugs, honestly, and I know it's not a very popular idea, you don't hear it very often anymore, but it is the truth: I had a great time doing drugs. Sorry. Never murdered anyone, never robbed anyone, never raped anyone, never beat anyone, never lost a job, a car, a house, a wife or kids, laughed my ass off, and went about my day."
--Bill Hicks - BarriedaleNick, on 10/12/2007, -3/+26It's very rare that I get to read such narrow minded, myopic, bigoted and misinformed garbage as the drivel in your post. I really thought that such idiocy would only be found in primary schools and the bideawee home for the terminally childish but sadly it seems the internet has reached even the lowest members of the human race.
I know businessmen (and women), Doctors, Teachers, IT pros and all sorts of successful and wonderful people who have smoked for years and continue to do so. they drive big proper grown up cars, travel to exotic and far off places, earn bags of cash and live in great big shiny houses. I also know dropouts and hippies who never amounted to anything. Whether you smoke or not has no relevance...
Now stop being such a bigot and making idiotic generalisations - instead form some opinion based on fact... - Herm, on 10/12/2007, -4/+26It helps me keep coding and coding and coding... (otherwise this ***** COULD get boring)
- Cronus6, on 10/12/2007, -2/+23I'm 37 years old, have a degree, work in the graphic arts/printing industry.
I'm married with 2 children, own my home (well me and the bank), own two cars and make about $45,000-$50,000 a year (household income is about $75,000).
I've an active PTA parent, and do volunteer work for a non-profit animal rescue organization, and play in a flag football league (and sometimes bowl in a bowling league).
I've smoked "weed" everyday since I was 17. Thanks for your misguided concern though... - joeshlub, on 10/12/2007, -1/+22But that is exactly the point, apparently "smoke is smoke" is a flawed though process. Regardless of any presuppositions you have, it seems clear that for whatever reason smoking pot isn't causing cancer, and 2000 people isn't exactly a small test group. Granted it would be good if this were replicated on an even larger scale, but none the less you can't just say "no, I think the studies wrong" and not just be a dumbass.
- wvdavis, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21a digg and a heavy toke :)
- wvdavis, on 10/12/2007, -5/+24@ Iam8up - Dude you sure have some serious hostility... maybe you should fire one up.
- rebrane, on 10/12/2007, -0/+19This point is addressed in the article -- marijuana smoke has more carcinogens, in fact, than cigarette smoke. An explanation for the observed effects is beyond the scope of the study but there is other evidence that THC acts as a tumor suppressor.
- monofonik, on 10/12/2007, -15/+33Smoke weeed errrrrdayy.
- jagg, on 10/12/2007, -2/+19Maybe the cancer cells, like, totally become lazy and just, like, sit around on the couch all day.
- rebrane, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17Why don't you read the article? This is an epidemiological study, not a study of biomechanical action. The study starts with the knowledge that marijuana smoke contains more carcinogens than tobacco smoke, but the data don't show a correlation between marijuana smoking and lung cancer, whereas they show a strong correllation between cigarette smoking and lung cancer.
Sort of like how the French eat a diet higher in fat than other nations but are skinnier on average. It doesn't mean that eating fatty foods doesn't make you fat, but it does suggest there are other factors at play. - CosmicJustice, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17This study was obviously funded by "Big Cannabis"
- Leech, on 10/12/2007, -5/+21what a retarded guy..
- Kitsune818, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17..or possibly by the fact that tobacco is known to have very low levels of Polonium, a radioactive material that produces alpha and beta radiation (alpha doesn't usually penetrate the skin, but I'm not sure what it does inside the lungs..) while it decays into lead. Polonium and it's decay products accumulate in lung tissues in smokers, and, unfortunately, rarely results in cool superhero powers or mutant abilities.
http://prfamerica.org/RadioactivityInCigaretteSmoke.html - joeyjojo, on 10/12/2007, -0/+15"It'll put drug dealers out of business and lower crime rates, not to mention the billions of dollars in taxes the government would make. OR we can keep fighting a war that we'll never win.."
The government doesn't want to make money. The military industrial complex does. You need wars for that. The great thing about the drug war is that it's unwinnable, so therefore perpetual. The greatest thing Bush did for his 'constituency' was to simply add another, unwinnable, perpetual war. Now we can go on fighting drugs and terrorism forever, making a few folks very rich in the process. - NinjaBoy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15Bad ass, now I just need to stop smoking cigs. Diggs on this for sure!
- Kitsune818, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16I'm not a pro-legalization zealot at all, but man, they've totally got you to tow the line, eh?
Pot is neither a wonder-drug save-the-planet plant, nor is it the worst drug to plague mankind since it's inception, opening gateways to other substances..
If you put them side by side, Alcohol poses a much greater danger to youth and society as a whole. It's deadly effects and addictive nature are well known to man.. However, at least in the US, a kid who is high is seen as a loser criminal going nowhere, and often punished to the maximum extent possible, while the same kid if found drunk would probably be reprimanded by his parents and told to sleep it off.
And, no, I don't think temperance is an answer, we've seen how that plays out. My point is more that alcohol has social acceptance for whatever reason, even though it is the more dangerous of the two. Perhaps because you can't make pot taste like peppermint candy as easily.
Dennis Leary said it best: "They say marijuana leads to other drugs. No it doesn't, it leads to f***ing carpentry. ...That's why I stopped doing drugs in the first place. Not because I didn't like 'em, but because I didn't want to build anything, ok?"
- trc0, on 10/12/2007, -14/+28"would this mean that marijuana would DECEASE your chance of getting lung cancer!?"
no, but it would probably DECREASE your chance of getting it. - dhuck, on 10/12/2007, -3/+16@brewed
the new generation of vaporizers (i.e. in the last 2 years or so) have significantly improved on the design. they're very effective, and work really nicely in groups as well. sorry to hear you're smoke free though, i'll just dedicate this bowl to you ;) - kurth, on 10/12/2007, -4/+17I believe that he's quoting a song, by Dr. Dre that ends with "Smoke weed everyday"...and how.
- jahdigga, on 10/12/2007, -5/+18i find all the herbal hate around here pretty perplexing
the only thing worse than being a geek (don't deny it, you're a registered digg user) is being a geek who isn't even cool enough to get high once in a while - Wireddd, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13yeah, I have long suspected the Microsoft coders of working while high. Their code works, but they don't seem to know how.
- cmiller1, on 10/12/2007, -5/+16Ireland, you MUST be from europe, in the US the practice of mixing tobacco and marijuana is very very rare, although if you go to France you won't find it being smoked any other way.
- ThrasherC, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11Mmmmmm....pizza flavored doritos...BRB.
- demesisx, on 10/12/2007, -8/+19Interesting. Have you ever heard the MP3 of Jello Biafra called "Grow More Pot"? It really highlights WHY marijuana is illegal. If you haven't heard it before and are in the dark about this topic, I'd highly recommend it.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11@tiabin
Why not just make brownies? Or is too much fore-thought involved? ;) - miller9time, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9I'm pretty sure you have to pay taxes no matter what (legal) job you have.
- jahdigga, on 10/12/2007, -6/+15i feel sorry for people who think they understand the factors that compel other people to do something they themselves have never done
- socokoolaid, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11puff puff code puff puff code
- heymark, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9If it was that easy, don't you think there would be a "cancer-free" cigarette out on the market?
- founderofpork, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Smoking might not be the most healthy delivery system for a drug, but it has its purposes. There's been a few medications synthesized from marijuana and the general consensus amongst people using them for seems to be that they just plain suck. Smoking allows for you to dynamically control dosage. You can feel the effects instantly, so you know if you need more or if you're good for the time being... At least, I think I read that somewhere.
Anyway, Marijuana kills no one each year...at least no one can prove that it kills anyone. Tobacco and alcohol kill...how many? - plnegative1, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9@nj10ii
You ever stop to think that the lazy people actually are lazy before they smoke pot and thus due to their lazy personality start abusing marijuana? - stephaniegrace, on 10/12/2007, -3/+11"You keep that minimum wage job, live in the basement....."
I own a home and have a great tech job that pays me very, VERY well. The keys to success are moderation and the ability to prioritize.
So, nj1011, please keep your stereotypes in the locker you were shoved into all of your life. - Johnny1337h4x0r, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8What if in the next presidential election one of the guy's campaigns would be about legalizing merijuanna? Can you imagine the number of people who're gonna vote for him/her just for saying that? I'll be the people that have never votet in their lives would come out and vote.
Just a though. - dhuck, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9i have.
my conclusion: this ***** is good, mang. - Kitsune818, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10Okay, so maybe you don't get cancer, but that Emphasema is going to arrive four times faster, sometime between watching the Secret of Nym for the 5000th time and walking to the kitchen for more Pizza flavored Doritos.
- adml_shake, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9I thought the cancer was caused by all the extra stuff(chemicales) they add to cigarettes.
- postapoc, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8I live in Denver, Colorado and it just became legal to possess an once or less in the city. Unfortunately it's still illegal in Colorado so the courts get around it by prosecuting you under state law instead of city. Hopefully it will pass state-wide with the next vote.
- kurupt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7@Tiabin
"Burning just isn't necessary and isn't that rewarding"
I understand where you're coming from with that. I personally haven't had any experience with Vaporizers but, I can honestly say that there is something special about sparking up a nicely rolled blunt with friends. - collintheweak, on 10/12/2007, -0/+72,000 is too small?
2,000 is a large enough sample size. What matters is whether or not the sample was varied enough. - socokoolaid, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8I quit smoking tabacco as well, with a good amount of help by smoking pot instead.
- BrewedInTexas, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Not everyone crying for legalization cares abourt the medical benefits. You, me and everyone else knows why people want it legalized. To get high.
So let's compare it with it's rival here for a second. Alcohol.
Alcohol makes (some) people violent, obnoxious and aggressive.
When was the last time you saw someone in a fight after smoking?
Alcohol kills more people than crack, coke, heroin and pot combined each year.
And finally...
"Here is my final point. About drugs, about alcohol, about pornography and smoking and everything else. What business is it of yours what I do, read, buy, see, say, think, who I *****, what I take into my body – as long as I do not harm another human being on this planet?"
--Bill Hicks - DogzOfWar, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I agree. Nobody smokes pot in the same manner as cigs, smoking cig after cig after cig while driving, or at a bar, or at home.
Also, it's important to point out that this study using interviews with subjects about their past alcohol, drug and tobacco usage. Since smoking pot is a crime, they might be more reticent to talk about how much they smoked, and when, etc.
A more interesting study would be to have a large group of non-tobacco smoking pots users, versus a group of non-pot smoking tobacco users, and see their corresponding medical conditions. -
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