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- graeh, on 10/24/2008, -7/+34They also believe he was nailed hand and foot to a piece of wood - hung there for three days bleeding to death - cut open with a spear and pronounced dead, and then burried for three days, and then came back to life. And then believe he personally speaks to them every day and is involved in every aspect big and small in their and everyone else's lives.
So they think he's also white?
News flash: that's the least crazy thing christians think about jesus - by a LONG ***** WAY. I should know - I used to be a missionary, and my dad was a fundamentalist indepedent baptist minister. - iMattK, on 10/24/2008, -5/+28Since Jesus was, in the flesh, an Israeli Jew his skin color would have been the same as the Jews of that period.
What Jesus looked likes is irrelevant -- who He is, what He has done for us, and our need for Him trumps all. Everything else is a pointless distraction. - gordonj, on 10/24/2008, -1/+22Many of the people who assume Jesus was white would also probably assume him to be a terrorist if they saw him walking down the street today.
- inactive, on 10/24/2008, -4/+18Newsflash: Many Americans are ***** idiots.
- charm803, on 10/24/2008, -2/+15Yeah, well, they also believe in talking snakes.
- mtg101, on 10/24/2008, -3/+16The forum post this links to doesn't provide a link to the study, and a quick search on Google doesn't find it. Unless someone posts a link to the study in question, I'm going to assume that this is one of the 78.5% of statistics that is simply made up.
- lovemorgul, on 10/24/2008, -2/+14This is a well written and generally scholarly approach to the study of Jesus from a faith perspective.
- inactive, on 10/24/2008, -0/+12[citation needed] I'd love to see the study.
But I believe it. I assumed Jesus was white for awhile. Granted I put 2 and 2 together waay before I was 18... - gordonj, on 10/24/2008, -1/+12But, but, but Christian scientists who study snakes say they actually have vestigial vocal chords and a larynx that biophysicists insist was once capable of human speech! Failing that they also have a special "psychic gland" that can implant voices directly into your brain, and a coercion pheromone that makes you really suggestible to their wily ways [uh, citation needed].
- aquireworth, on 10/24/2008, -1/+11Wow, can't believe people are so ill educated still. Being born in Bethlehem to Jewish parents does not equal white.
- aquireworth, on 10/24/2008, -0/+10Most of religious art about Jesus started in Europe. The artists painted what they knew - what they had seen. Being that many of them hadn't traveled to Israel or probably even out of Europe what they had seen was white European men. Therefore, Jesus was often depicted as a European male - blue eyes and all. Many artists today for some reason have continued painting Jesus the same way. I don't understand that at all, but I guess the symbol has been set.
- scottmweaver, on 10/24/2008, -1/+11How right you are.
- mareln72, on 10/24/2008, -1/+10We all want to see our Lord as someone familar. So we see him as someone we can relate to. He doesn't mind, Just as long as we believe.
- neurobox, on 10/25/2008, -1/+10There's more documented proof (inside the bible or out) that Jesus existed than Julius Caesar. Which is to say, a lot.
- gordonj, on 10/24/2008, -1/+10Actually, I made it up yesterday, but I couldn't help posting it again when I saw the snakes comment. :P
/Poe's law - gordonj, on 10/24/2008, -3/+11If Jesus was running for president, how many right-wing christians would really vote for him, and not just call him a socialist leftist?
- waxcrash, on 10/24/2008, -2/+10What I love is that Southern Baptists are against drinking alcohol. Yet according to their 'great' book, their 'great' savior turned water into wine.
- wonderchemist, on 10/24/2008, -1/+9Actually Jesus was his own dad if you believe in the holy trinity.
- aquireworth, on 10/24/2008, -2/+10Actually there is proof that Jesus did exist. That he existed is really not even an argument any more. The argument is: is he the son of God?
- neurobox, on 10/25/2008, -0/+8Besides dying for you? What have you asked of Him?
- c001, on 10/24/2008, -2/+10Wow... that's great. Now color of god. WTF was need for this survey?? God is to be praised.
- SQLDigger, on 10/24/2008, -0/+8According to the Bible, Jesus was born in Palestine, descended from tribes that originated somewhere in modern-day Syria or Iraq, I think. About 3500 years ago, these tribes migrated to Palestine, and were still living there at the time of Jesus (about 2000 years ago). It stands to reason they were at least somewhat dark-skinned, like modern inhabitants of that region, certainly not Caucasian. However, the Bible never says what color he was or they were. Actually, the Bible is mostly silent regarding people's skin color in general. I tend to believe nobody cared too much one way or the other, maybe due to the geographic location of Palestine as a cross-roads.
- Rockkybox, on 10/24/2008, -0/+8Then why do the majority of the depictions of jesus show him as white?
- gordonj, on 10/24/2008, -1/+9And himself once removed.
- eir574, on 10/24/2008, -1/+9Please tell me you're making this up. I'd love to believe you are, but it somehow sounds like something people would actually do . . .
- Catspaw, on 10/25/2008, -0/+8Who cares what color he was? It is what is in someone's heart and mind that matters.
- emecks, on 10/24/2008, -0/+7Are you Bill Hicks reincarnate?
- inactive, on 10/26/2008, -0/+7oh? You have sat down and read the Bible? The Holy Bible in it's entirety have you?
- neurobox, on 10/25/2008, -0/+7What it said was there was nothing special about his appearance that would draw people to him. Because it just doesn't matter what he looked like, the message is the same.
- algaeturd, on 10/24/2008, -3/+10Christianity in America has become something of an urban legend at this point and not much more. Very few actually read and understand the Bible. They get their information from pastors and preachers who give the interpretation of what THEY learned growing up instead of going to the source.
Christianity being used as a reason to express hatred and intolerance? That's when you know that these people aren't listening to the writings as they are in the Bible...they're using religion to justify their beliefs and prop them up and to demonize everyone who doesn't agree with them. It's sad. - neurobox, on 10/25/2008, -0/+7There's still many of us around that actually appreciate the importance of modeling our behavior after Christ, and faithfully depending on him, as he proves faithful to us.
"Christianity being used as a reason to express hatred and intolerance?" Indeed, it makes me sick. There are some things Christians can't condone, and only demand not to be expected to endorse those things. Hatred and intolerance in and of themselves are the opposite of what we're called to. It's not our place to condemn or judge people, many of us know that. Efforts to broadly paint our failure to endorse that we can't agree with as hateful are overtly hypocritical, as they create hatred where tolerance and understanding could flourish. I can't speak for the 'god hates f**s' radicals that keep popping up, I don't know the god they seem to serve. - KaiserArny, on 10/24/2008, -0/+6Jews from Europe surely look pretty white after spending Centuries there. You should look at Jews that stayed in the Middle-East to know how Jews look like in that time.
- gordonj, on 10/24/2008, -1/+7Infra red, no wait, ultra violet. He has to be in the invisible part of the spectrum really, doesn't he?
- inactive, on 10/24/2008, -4/+10Jesus is, by far, my favorite fictional character -- love those books.
- donjacko, on 10/24/2008, -1/+7what your saying is half right- for a time the rulers of Egypt were black (although quite briefly) as Egypt and numidia (a civilization further south with similar customs) were united under the "black Pharaohs" as they are now commonly referred to, however the due to the relatively short time period and continuation of the ancient Egyptian belief system, it is fair to say that there influence, although important, is not a significant contributor to western society.
- SQLDigger, on 10/24/2008, -0/+6Citation needed indeed. I'd love to see an actual news article, or even a a blog post with a citation, instead of an unsubstantiated claim made in a lame message board post that leaked over onto Digg.
- flip2trip, on 10/26/2008, -0/+6@donjacko--You need to read "The Case for Christ" by Lee Strobel. He started writing the book to disprove Jesus because at the time he was an atheist, but by the time he finished his research he had converted to Christianity.
- somnambulator, on 10/24/2008, -0/+5Sort of Barack Obama colour then?
- davengineer, on 10/24/2008, -1/+6zombie jesus!
- mikbunn, on 10/24/2008, -0/+5And lo, as the disciples removed the great stone from the mouth of the cave, Hicks was gone! But yea, the next day, he reappeared on Digg in the body of graeh.
- carolinaws, on 10/24/2008, -3/+8Wait a minute... what study? All this does is link to a message board with a statement referencing nothing but "a recent independently conducted survey." Who did the study? Where was it executed? What was the ethnic make-up of those surveyed?
Buried for blogspam. - Ciryon, on 10/24/2008, -0/+5Lol
I want to hear your story. Seriously, I want to hear your story :) - MattBD, on 10/24/2008, -0/+5I wonder how many Christians would call Jesus names if he came back because he had long hair?
- inactive, on 10/24/2008, -0/+5Uh- It's clear there is an interesting (and familiar) point here but the study should be cited.
I couldn't find a working link.
Alright fine- I'll Google it myself:
This is all that I could find that reflected the point-
http://www.human-nature.com/nibbs/01/ogilvie.html
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=200808 ...
I like the following statement:
"Jesus was pointing to something. It is important that we examine what he
was pointing to and not worship his pointing. And whether his finger was
white or not really ignores the effort entirely."
The psychology of racists show a fixation that speaks more to sexuality then
spirituality- as the nature of the soul is being less contemplated then transient physical
traits that have more to do with biology. The value of biology has a resolution
focused in sex- for the survival of that biology itself. Jesus apparently was interested
in drawing our attention to notions outside the understood limits and concepts of
biology of his time.
If the soul itself must be defined by consciousness it's nature may be beyond our
concepts and assumptions about color. Color itself relies on physics- the properties
of material/physical substance. In human terms is the color of what our consciousness
contemplates (or considers) more important than character of what is contemplated
(or considered)? - gordonj, on 10/24/2008, -0/+5Jesus was probably between this colour: http://www.colorcombos.com/893608-hex-color
and this colour: http://www.colorcombos.com/AB671D-hex-color
based on modern day skin tones: http://maps.grida.no/go/graphic/skin-colour-map-in ...
Although 2000 years ago people were probably darker on average than today due to spending more time outside and less intermixing between populations. - jmkiii, on 10/24/2008, -0/+4What made you see the light (stop being crazy)
- booksnmore4you, on 10/26/2008, -0/+4Jesus is the color of the person in whom He resides.
- inactive, on 10/24/2008, -5/+9So you people think that a so called "white" child was born to a native of Nazareth 2000 years ago? No wonder the world is in trouble. Common sense is virtually nonexistent.
- inactive, on 10/24/2008, -1/+5God is shiny colored, the most glorious of all the colors.
- inactive, on 10/26/2008, -1/+5No--Not true--At least for me. I read my Bible ALL the time. Every day at least some.And sometimes internet studies too.
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