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- mwtapp, on 10/11/2009, -0/+9Anything to reduce infections.
- Yazilliclick, on 06/06/2009, -0/+7So it has nothing to do with how clean their hands are, just basically tells them if their using enough sanitizer to keep the supplier happy?
- KraftDinner101, on 06/05/2009, -0/+6This would be a great technology if it works as described. I just lost a grandmother who went to the hospital with a sore hip after falling down, but caught an unknown infection at the hospital that sadly spread to all of her organs. Mind you it could have been an airborne virus, but still. I'm sure there's quite a few others out there that have been affected by situations like this as well.
- LonelyTylenoL, on 06/06/2009, -0/+5That's what she pointed out.
- ThanatosST, on 06/06/2009, -0/+5A technology that shouldn't have to exist, yet I'm glad that it does due to the human factor.
- Julie188, on 06/05/2009, -0/+5Hospitals are dangerous places ... lots of people die there. But seriously, this sounds like a great solution.
- u3b3rg33k, on 06/06/2009, -0/+4All of doctors I know wash their hands as often you'd expect someone with OCD to make sure they turned off the stove. makes you wonder how they don't scrub the skin off. and if this tech is supposed to detect hand sanitizer, it'll be horribly easy to defeat.
- LuckyASN, on 06/06/2009, -0/+4Hospitals are some of the most germ infested buildings around. Not surprising since that's where all the sick people go. Even though I still keep my gloves on and wash my hands religiously when I take a patient in, about once a year I get sidelined by a pretty nasty illness that most likely came from the hospital. Usually it's a cold, but 3 years ago I caught a nasty strain of flu that required overnight admittance with IV fluid therapy and anti-emetics. Last winter, I caught a sinus infection that came close to setting off a hypertensive crisis at 26 years of age.
So props for the soap-sniffing-robot from a grateful medic. And WASH YOUR DAMN HANDS PEOPLE!!! - dhughes, on 06/06/2009, -0/+3 That's what I was thinking too, most people don't know how to wash their hands, it's more than a bit of soap and a rinse you have to scrub your palms, in between fingers, nail beds and the back of your hands.
- Izz1011, on 06/06/2009, -0/+3The system doesn't cost 30B a year, that's the amount spent fighting hospital-born infections.
Well, according to the description. - Wingin, on 06/06/2009, -0/+3Yes. This is about saving up to $30 billion a year (minus whatever the technology costs).
- kd1s, on 06/06/2009, -0/+3The real key to reducing MRSA and VRSA infections in hospitals is to implement the same procedure used in the ICU's. Hand sanitizing stations and gloves everywhere. Gloves to be changed and hands sanitized between patients.
- emjaymj, on 06/06/2009, -0/+3"How will this device know when someone uses the toilet and walks straight out of the restroom? Will you have to badge-into stalls now? RFID keycards and the whole nine yards?"
I think your supervisor will have even sterner words for you when you just don't show up in the database at all. Plus, it says if the system can detect when you go visit a patient whether it's been too long since you've washed your hands. So, just avoiding the sink might even get you fired. - palehorse864, on 06/06/2009, -0/+2Humans infecting each other wouldn't exist without the human factor after all.
- linagee, on 06/06/2009, -1/+3USE MORE OF OUR SANITIZER PRODUCTS!
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Acme Sanitizer Co. - christoast, on 06/06/2009, -0/+2This is why we need robots as doctors instead of the inferior humans with their germs and their drama
i.e http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/7557/robodoc.jpg - Marrach, on 06/06/2009, -0/+2Then you know some very conscientious Doctors. That's nice. But you should pay attention to the OTHERS who aren't. The difference is Like Night & Day-- speaking of which-- what about the Doctors on the NIGHT SHIFT? When things are a little bit more lax?
Besides-- for the ability to defeat the Sanitizer Detector-- Why go through the bother? If someone is going to go through all that trouble, they might as well just wash their hands.
No-- that's not the problem. This tech will work on Hospital Staff, LabTechs, Nurses, orderlies. THEY can be ordered to don the badge and to use the approved dispensed sanitizer. If they don't-- They can be FIRED.
But the DOCTOR's-- See a DOCTOR can claim that he's allergic to the sanitizer. He can say he doesn't need to be bothered. He can say "I lost the badge" and then say-- "Don't bother me with trifles and let me complete my rounds!"
See, there's a hidden Class System in our hospitals where the Doctors are royalty. Why else do you figure so many BAD doctors are still practicing with the Hospital's blessing? - Wingin, on 06/06/2009, -0/+2 I am not surprised at the development of this equipment, because I've been hospitalized enough to see that hospital staff in my part of the developed world don't take a lot of care about transmitting infection between patients.
However, at first, I was surprised to see that they don't take that care. It just seems so basic - something that would have been drummed into all the hospital staff from day 1, and become a ingrained OCD type habit.
I did wonder, when I first noticed the reality, whether the reason so many ignore the proper protocols is that they are trying to save time, in an industry that's been massively squeezed due to cost saving measures. Education and advertising which points out the financial cost as well as the human cost of ignoring this basic requirement to those who fund health care and to health care consumers might be helpful. There are heaps of agency staff around as well as regular employees though - so maybe this equipment will be good.
Perhaps just the fact that it's been developed will help to raise the awareness of handwashing/gloves as a important issue that is still relevant today. - pe5t1lence, on 06/06/2009, -0/+2Spam do not click!!
- Marrach, on 06/06/2009, -1/+3 A Great technology-- with one major problem. . .
The article goes on about "Hospital Workers" being gently reminded to maintain proper hygiene. But DOCTORS do not consider themselves to be mere "Hospital Workers". And no 'mere' Nurse had better get above her station and tell the Lord Doctor that HIS hands aren't clean enough. And if THEY had to wear the badges, I wouldn't be surprised to find said electronic badge conveniently shoved into a desk drawer.
The ugly fact that the AMA doesn't touch upon directly is that a LOT of the perfidious and resistant infections are passed to the patients by Hospital Workers AND THE DOCTORS as well. It's on the Doctor's Hands. It's on his Gloves (Which he may not change when he moves from Patient to Patient). It's on his STETHOSCOPE. It's on his PEN which he uses as an impromptu probe on EVERY PATIENT he sees. It's on his portable pocketsized OTOSCOPE. It's on his sexy, wifi-enabled Netbook that he uses to access the Hospital system when he's on-site-- think about all that GRUNGE that's on your own keyboard RIGHT NOW. WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME YOU WIPED YOUR KEYBOARD WITH A CLEANING SOLUTION???
Well the Doctor's Netbook or Tablet PC is in the VERY SAME CONDITION as your own home PC keyboard. But while the Hospital may require the staff to wipe down the NURSE station PC-- nothing touches the DOCTOR'S PERSONAL TECH.
And that's just the Doctors who are actually In-Hospital STAFF. The OUTSIDE-Hospital Affiliated Doctors who walk the ward floors are NOT employees of the Hospital-- so No-One can tell them to wash their hands either without getting a withering bawling-out.
The ugly, unspoken truth: a lot of Doctors, especially the OLDER ones, have to be FORCIBLY TOLD-- not REMINDED-- but ORDERED to WASH THEIR HANDS. - Wingin, on 06/06/2009, -0/+2I guess if the hospital installs the equipment then it's not the nurses job to police the doctors - it's really up to the hospital admin.
- marytormey, on 06/10/2009, -0/+1Most of the bacteria hand sanitizers kill is good, but in a hospital situation there are some very bad germs going around. Who's idea was it to put all the sick people in one place?
- linagee, on 06/06/2009, -0/+1How will this device know when someone uses the toilet and walks straight out of the restroom? Will you have to badge-into stalls now? RFID keycards and the whole nine yards?
This might be useful for standardizing the time hands are washed or preventing someone from "washing" with only water, but I don't see it being much more useful than that. - minorthreat, on 06/06/2009, -1/+130 billion a year spend the correct way could save more lives than using it to monitor hygiene
- cuoops, on 06/06/2009, -1/+1source - http://news.ufl.edu/2009/06/03/hand-hygiene/
- newt00, on 06/06/2009, -1/+0how does this system pay for itself in a couple of months?!! this technology has got to be expensive plus the hospitals would be going through so much more soap!
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