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- CanadianAviator, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9The South African man, after waking up:
"Sweet, new Macs!" - t0dd, on 10/12/2007, -6/+12Dugg. Ironic, although I doubt speed will help insomniacs.
- geekee, on 10/12/2007, -4/+9FTA:
"Louis Viljoen was hit by a truck on a highway in 2003, and has been in a persistent vegetative state since with massive head injuries." - crilen007, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7It could, by wearing them out during the day.
On speed you expel more energy. - Piper7865, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7RTFA --"But The Daily Mirror said he recently became restless, and Dr. Wally Nel prescribed the common prescription drug Zolpidem to calm him down."
- rumor, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5a coma isn't the same as normal sleep. maybe the drug helped him return to a normal sleeping cycle?
- ZennZero, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7@geekee
Schivo wasn't in a coma, she was functionally brain dead. There is a big difference. She wasn't much more than a working hypothalamus awash in spinal fluid. This treatment wouldn't have made a difference in that particular case. - hadees, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5@geeke:
Because her autopsy said so.
"The results of Terri Schiavo's autopsy proved that her brain damage was not only massive, but irreversible. This disclosure puts to rest any theories that she was attempting to communicate, and that with therapy she could recover to some extent. The damage was permanent and she was incapable of any cognitive thought."
From: http://nursing.about.com/od/issuesaffectinghealthcare/a/schiavoautopsy.htm - damonlab, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Not so much ironic as it is counterintuitive.
- TracerBulletNPI, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8Erm, no. Persistive Vegetative state is rather different from a coma. The girl in FL was perfectly awake. The it was just parts of her brain that where shut down, keeping her from functioning normally.
- Cozmcphish, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5That would be strange if the brain's signals are somehow reversed in a vegetative state where being in a coma the brain thinks the person is awake, while trying to sleep (ex. the medication from the article) in actuallity wakes up a vegetative person.
Does such a theory exist? - nblsavage, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Not to mention that the autopsy revealed that her brain had atrophied and was roughly the size of a peach.
- BrunoTheGreat, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5Perhaps not, but this is very interesting nonetheless.
If I remember correctly, caffeine has the opposite effect on individuals with ADD, making them feel sleepy rather than energetic and alert. So this seems very similar.
Also, in case it hasn't been mentioned, Zolpidem = Ambien. It is a non-benzodiazepine hypnotic drug. Actually, to be totally accurate, Ambien is Zolpidem Tartrate. I'm assuming from this article that in this case, Zolpidem was administered intravenously.
I'd be interested to know what effect that benzodiazepine drugs have in this type of application (ie: Xanax, Valium, etc.) - DanWearsPants, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4Ambien, eh? The guy's gonna be going from a persistive vegatative state straight into bizarre episodes of sleep eating and driving ;)
- theLEGENDisBACK, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3HA explain that FDA!
- justinvt, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Speed/caffeine does not "slow down" people with ADD. It stimulates the front lobes, which are responsible for executive control (decision making). Anyone will be more disciplined/obedient on speed, although the average person is able to control themselves fairly well without their aid. If you ever want to see what it's like to have really really bad ADD you can try taking a good dose of Compazine, or Reglan, or other dopamine antagonists. I was on both at the same time for 3 months and I felt like I wanted to rip my own face off.
- U2groupie, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3If I remember correctly, Terry Scheivo's brain had physically deterriorated from being PVS for so many years. Your brain will actually start to liquify and become mushy from not being used in so long. This drug may have helped her out earlier along in her PVS, but not that late in the game.
I read something similar to this a few weeks ago, but it was in another country. Wish I could remember where I read it. - Ingwenya, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3This is an example of a homeopathic effect of a drug. The doctor inadvertently treated like with like. This is the converse of the allopathic method.
- DanThe1Man, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Yeah, but was he tired when he woke-up?
- hadees, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Did you even bother to read the article?
- tylerman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I do not believe there is enough information to conclude the man was in the same state as terry schiavo.
The title says "Sleeping drug breaks man's 3-year coma" then the article reads "has been in a persistent vegetative state since with massive head injuries."
I don't consider a coma and vegetative state to be the same thing.
More information is needed IMHO. - Klisk, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2I don't think it matters if it's old if it's new to digg. Many people use this as their main/only source of news.
- theLEGENDisBACK, on 10/12/2007, -2/+3@cozmcphish ::thumbs up:: for thinking outside the box.
- ZennZero, on 10/12/2007, -3/+4My sincerest apologies.
I forgot that you have to *personally* examine someone to merely point out the conclusions reached by the medical professionals that actually did examine her. - bradsh, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2@Bruno: I am ADD and can confirm the caffeine reverse effects... it does make me sleepy. Sometimes it just does nothing. But it never makes me more alert.
- pt4117, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Ironic - Characterized by often poignant difference or incongruity between what is expected and what actually is
I'd call this ironic.I would not expect someone getting sleeping pills to wake up, especially if they were in a coma. - nesquik, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Ironic for sure!
Just what I want, a sleeping pill that will wake me up from a ***** coma. - U2groupie, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2Because although being in a coma appears to be like sleep, it is not. A person in a coma has active cycles and REM cycles. It's not like on TV when the person is just lying in a bed asleep.
- pagit, on 10/12/2007, -1/+2patients that are comatose tend to be sedated as they can move around (like a restless sleeper) and pull out IV lines and monitoring lines.
- hadees, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1While that is a good point it is hard to know wtf you are talking about when you don't use the reply button.
- Chakz, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Hey, wouldn't it be hilarious if we just read only the titles on Digg and then formed a stupid comment.
- alphaterminus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Maybe this will help Morissey's girlfriend in a coma out.
/doesn't believe he really had a girlfriend - spartan777, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1thank God he wasn't terry schaivo'd!
- eamonman, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1"The report said his brain function is improving slowly, and he is given half a dose of Zolpiden in the morning and again at noon to keep him awake for eight hours a day before he lapses back into a coma. "
Kind of like the movie Awakenings. Except that they fall back into coma, not parkinsonian-ish state. As in the movie, It would be sad a sad moment if the patient regains enough mental capacity to come to the realization that without Zolpiden, they're gone. - Solidcell, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1It didn't say he was only awake when on the meds, it said it's to make sure he doesn't lapse back into a coma. It's a preventative measure.
- PathDaemon, on 10/12/2007, -2/+2@"I don't think it's the medicine, he was probably going to wake up anyway."
So why is he only awake when on the drug? - PathDaemon, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1You can only technically reply to top-level comments. Use the reply button at the start of that "thread."
- asmallvictory, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Digg Mirror (if needed): http://www.diggmirrors.com/2006/June/01/Sleepingdrugbreaksmans/
- geekee, on 10/12/2007, -10/+9"How long before the tighty-righties claim that this could have cured that brain dead chick in FL?"
What evidence do you have to say that it wouldn't. She was diagnosed to be in a persistive vegetative state, just like the person in the article. She would have never fully recovered, based on autopsy results, but the drug may have helped her regain consciousness. The reason that case gained national attention was that the parents thought it was not right that the husband had sole rights over her life or death, and they had no say. There was definitely a conflict of interest since he already had moved on. - ZennZero, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Yeah for some reason the reply link isn't always there for me for every comment. I don't know if it is a rendering problem or if I am merely digg-challenged.
- DynamicSurge, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0That's amazing! Many things that we use in everyday life may help us with things such as this. We just don't know it yet. :)
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1Ok ultrafaggot 9000, thanks for your input
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Read the ***** article and you might find out, dumbass.
- NumberFour, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0I kinda want to know how they thought of that. Where they like, "Hey wouldn't it be hilarious if we just gave that guy some slepping pills"
- borderpatrol, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1I concur ^
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -3/+1why give someone in a coma sleeping meds at all? sounds like something is up with this story.......
- tommythetomcat, on 10/12/2007, -7/+4This doesn't say much for the so called sleeping medicine if it wakes you up... why were they giving him sleeping medicine anyways?
- joshjoneswas, on 10/12/2007, -6/+3Sounds like it was sex to me! Makes you sleep... makes you wake up..
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2He became restless, so.. Doesn't that mean he was "waking up"?
Or sequence could be right to.
I don't think it's the medicine, he was probably going to wake up anyway. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+1It seems that god always has a purpose in what he does, until you dont like it, then its someone elses fault.
The FL chick died because she was narcisistic and killed herself - look it up. End of story, if she had been miraculously saved, you'd be crying "its a miracle" but no she died, so hey, lets blame the liberals.
Go starve yourselves, and get some more plastic surgery now, nothing bad ever happens from that right?
***** you you neocon braindead hypocrite idiots. -
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