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- coachace, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5"On being good in bed"?
Most geeks need more help getting TO bed, let alone IN bed... - seitanguy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5This (http://www.catb.org/~esr/graphics/esr001.jpg) is the guy who runs the web site. Does he look like a person who would have experience in bed?
- jgrahamc, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I think many people like this article because it's written clearly, it's style is open (i.e. nothing wrong with talking about sex) and it reads a bit like a HOWTO.
A common criticism of this article (which has been around for a *long* time) is that it was written by Eric Raymond (ESR). Many people see ESR and have a hard time accepting his opinion on sex or dating because of his physical appearance. Others, who have met him, may have a hard time based on his personality, but that's the *wrong* reason to not like this article.
The right reason to not like his tips are that some of them are just plain wrong.
Firstly he states "under ordinary circumstances she can have multiple orgasms in fairly rapid succession". Umm. No. That's not true for all women and starting an article with that puts an unreasonable expectation on both men and women.
Later he writes "Women: when a man gives you a thorough licking, it's only courteous to return the favor with some hearty fellatio just before he enters you". Huh? Courteous? So now if I go down on her she *has* to suck me off? It's totally wrong to introduce this kind of obligation to the bedroom. If she wants to, then great; but don't dress up a desire for a blow job as courtesy.
He even goes on to say "It's also smart; a man concentrating hard on giving you pleasure can lose some arousal levels, and you may well enjoy his ***** more if you polish up that erection a bit." So not only is it discourteous, your woman is also dumb if she doesn't go down on you.
And some more expectations of how a woman should react "Sensible women will tell you when they're reaching the big-thunderclap final orgasm". Actually some women will not do this and will keep that to themselves and it's going to be up to you to figure it out. Some women might even be embarrassed by their reaction in orgasm and not want you looking at her.
He also over-emphasises cunnilingus. Some women love it, some can't bear it. The article reads like the way to be a good lover is: cuddle, kiss, caress, cunnilingus, fellatio, penetration, orgasm. Sounds almost like a porn movie recipe for sex.
Sex is way more complex than a HOWTO. The right answer is to figure out with your partner what works and what doesn't. Some of that's gonna be by observation, some of it by talking. - Argentice, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Don't forget "Put down the copy of 'Operating Systems Design and Implementation' until you have finished"
- PacoDG, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2"First: under ordinary circumstances she can have multiple orgasms in fairly rapid succession, while you can't. This is the most important difference and the one least affected by psychology, mental attitude, or self-training."
Most women do not have orgasms at all, let alone multiple (at the least, not until they are more mature in age, ie at least 25 years of age or older, most likely older). And at that point, most orgasms are reached through oral, not regular sex. See more info @ http://drdrew.com/ - silent1, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Tip #1: Don't read sex-tips on the Internet.
Tip #2: Worry about getting to bed, then let nature take its course.
Tip #3: Profit!!! (at least for the call-girl you'll likely have to hire to teach you if you fail at #2) - zimm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2geeks dont need tips.
they need girls. - craigm01, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2here's a tip, find a woman that will actually have sex with you, then practice alot... alot.
of course eventually you'll get married, and all that practicing will produce a kid ... or 2 ..
then you really won't need to worry about your sexual prowess, because you will hardly do it at all anymore! - serra, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3@jilt: Seriously, Paco is right. I'm a female, and I know these things, trust me. We just don't like to tell guys this because we don't want to hurt their feelings. But a lot of the time, y'all have no idea what you're doing, and we don't have the heart to tell you.
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http://fuh-q.com - absurdist, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1"*****, they're more likely to orgy over a new pair of shoes than any sexual activity"
That, and the rest of the incredibly juvenile comments on here, makes it very clear to me that the vast majority of diggers have no idea whatsoever how to please a woman. Here's a clue, guys... all those pornos you've been watching have no relationship whatsoever to sex in the real world. And if you think acting like the men in them makes you Captain Bigdick, well, it's no wonder you're spending your evenings with Rosie Palm. Again. - analograbbit, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1if more guys read that, im pretty sure we would be less likely to bite off their heads around that time of the moody month.
- anirudhvr, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1though esr might not be the guy you'd want sex tips from, people (esp most diggers) wouldnt know about him, which is unfortunate. he's created much more valuable stuff than this 'article', such as 'the art of unix programming (taoup)'. check out the wikipedia article on him: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Steven_Raymond.
- goodsela, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1See below for a list of 500+ people who aren't getting it.
- MadEnvoy, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Looks like if you have a "For Geeks" in your title it's digg worthy and front page material...
- noseeme, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Omfg stupid.
If I want sex tips, I'll read the ***** magazines they sell at the ***** grocery store checkout lines. - AaronMT, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1It's more like...
#define pumpChump 3;
bool horny = true;
while(horny){
for(int i = 0; i < pumpChump; i++){
cout - TheyWillKillUs, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1ESR is too much. I'll Stick with his Art of Unix Programming. Pipes always turn my woman on.
- wilf_brim, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Taking tips on sex from a guy like him is kind of like getting investiment advice from an NFL lineman. There is the odd one that knows what he is talking about, buy you are more likely to make some big mistakes you will be paying for quite a while.
- Vision77, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1If you want to please your woman all you have to do is pay more attention to her while in bed. (Hell, you got to pay attention to her outside of bed or you won't get any) Take the time to explore her body and see what she likes. From experience, each woman I have dealt with is different. For us guys our formula is easy. But, for women you have to figure out what pleases them, and then you cater to that aspect of her sexual experience. Once you crack her code will be good to go. As for me, I'm not pleased unless my girl is. It's a pride thing. If you are not pleasing your lady, then, you should feel pretty damn weak! And, she's probably telling her girls how weak your a$$ is in bed. Command and conquer! Damn, pleasing your girl in bed is like the 11th commandment. Step your game up slackers.....
- zimm, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Sex manual.
Step 1: In.
Step 2: Out.
repeat as needed.
:P - RadiatedAnt, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0:D well I havent had complaints at all, more like praise ;) I use the carpet bomb technique instead of the smart bomb. I carpet bomb her ummm lower erea with my tongue instead of going in for the *****. Up and down motion seems to be the winner. I have had some success with the alphabet aerobics (where you spell out the alphabet with your tongue ;)
- staryprd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Sex tips from Eric S. Raymond himself! With the author like him, you cannot go wrong. LOL!
- bobb243, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1wow. im never going to take advice from this dude. http://www.catb.org/~esr/graphics/esr001.jpg
- hoowahman, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0My current girl reaches orgasm too fast and we MUST use a condom to desensitise her. Done it many times before without one and she just reaches it way before me.
- MasterDwarf, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I thought it would be a How-To make your own girl robot. Damn.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0^^
69th comment? - Eloom123, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"Most geeks need more help getting TO bed, let alone IN bed..."
PMSL!!! - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0lame post...no digg
- diggspyer, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1ESR Sex Tips? You gotta be kidding me.
BTW what is this girl thing or whatever people are talking about? Can I plug it into my PC? - cheese06, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0im a virgin. thanks. digg.
- Inspectah, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0woot no more making fun of me
- chaoticjelly, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Clearly this man is an expert.... right.
- Chapter80, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I wouldn't take sex tips from ESR, unless you want to end up with an Open Sores System.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Hah, this guide says it's for me, but I see no advanced CSS formatting or AJAX tricks. Sir, I give you a mediocre at best.
Worst, guide, ever. - AaronMT, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0for some reason it cut off the rest of the code :(
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0this one is pretty useless for 85% of digg readers.. they need the "how to get a girl to want to have sex with you" guide... quick hint, talking about unix doesn't work... at all... as for the rest of us, who really thought that as hard and fast as possible was the right way to go? i found that obvious, even before i had sex...
- orangetiki, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Uptight fanboy : "keep your sex out of my digital lifestyle
My reply: keep your digital lifestyle out of my sex. - Sithlrd, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I find that my lady's girlfriends often give the best sexual advice. In fact, they usually want to demonstrate with us. So this is pretty lame for me, but a decent beginner guide for all you newbies out there.
- Rosco, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Well, looks like I no longer have a use for digg as a technology news site. No digg.
- fatsobob, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Skeet^3
- alphager, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0http://geekz.co.uk/lovesraymond/archive/copa-cobandit
- synae, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0"...Done it many times before without one and she just reaches it way before me"
wait, what's the problem here? - jmholloway, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Women do have orgasms. I know. I am a woman.
- UnknownBadger, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0i cant believe i just clicked on this...
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0sorry geeks...but this story doesn't belong on digg... unless you view sex as some "technical endeavour" and then i would recomend a book called how to get laid...rather than how to f*** good.
- DrEbola, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0Unfortunately, it's a lot more frustrating, complicated and laborious than this guy makes it seem. It's almost not even worth it, given masturbation.
- dudinatrix, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0pfft. I could have written this with my eyes closed.
...that's how accurate my blind typing is. - ThankTheCheese, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0If things aren't going well, I just do what any geek would do when he's not doing well; I say "laaaaaagg!"
- mpeng168, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0This sounds like the perfect how to for digg...
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