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Richard Dawkins, Atheism, and Christianity
jakebouma.com — I don't doubt Dr. Dawkins' legitimacy or ability as a scientist. He is quite accomplished in his area(s) of study and this must be respected. I think however, that it might also be his Achilles' heel because I believe that Richard Dawkins represents the dying gasp of modernity.
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- doohickus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1Richard Dawkins may be a brilliant scientist, I haven't read his books on evolution - I don't need to. I already believe the theory of evolution is most probably a good representation of how life evolved. Personally, I just don't see it as a big question, and evolution as a subject doesn't interest me.
Richard is however a poor preacher of the Church of materialism and science, and is doing so for a religion even worse than what he claims to be railing against. Science as a religion is bad.
Of course, each has it's place, and as Science can never supplant the superiority of a Religious understanding of LIVING, so neither can Religion supplant the superiority of a scientific understanding of the mechanisms of nature.
But to state it again, for the confused and insecure, Science can only be a means to an end - way to get you from A to B, but it cannot make the trip worth taking. The meaning and worth of our existance can never come from science. Nor can we create it ourselves.
Dawkins does come across as disingenuous, and insecure. Genuineness cannot be made - you cannot try to be genuine. Genuineness is a quality of character that comes as a result accepting who you are without pretension. These are not scientific principles, no one can prove or even understand scientifically what genuineness is and what it means to be a genuine person. And yet we all know, or most of us do, when some one is genuine, and when some one is fake.
I've heard him claim that God "almost" certainly does not exist, and he believes God does not exist, but oh, yes, he would tell a dying child that God does exist to comfort them. I mean, how utterly fake is that?
As someone else wrote, "Its not God that needs defining, it's Richard Dawkins"- gumbright, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Could you expand on "the superiority of a Religious understanding of LIVING"?
I just can't wait to hear what that could possibly be.
- gumbright, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Could you expand on "the superiority of a Religious understanding of LIVING"?
- Azur2, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1So you guys are predicting a return to the dark ages? Abandoning humanism and rationality in favor of tradition, authoritarianism and religion?
Yeah, me too. - jakebouma, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Not a return to the dark ages, but an advancing to a new age of postmodernism.
- doohickus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+0Yes lets try actually advancing civilization for a change, rather than merely advancing our materialistic understanding of it. Trying to make science the end all, would have the end result of returning us to a new dark age, one where science proscribes the empty and unsatisfying life that it is duty bound to do, when it is mistaken for a religion.
But if you want to talk about living, then let's talk about what it means to be genuine, and what science or religion has to say about it, that is if you are interested in genuine debate. I have a great quote from a movie here that I think says a lot it:
"It doesn't matter whether you're selling Jesus or Buddha or civil rights or 'How to Make Money in Real Estate With No Money Down.' That doesn't make you a human being; it makes you a marketing rep. If you want to talk to somebody honestly, as a human being, ask him about his kids. Find out what his dreams are - just to find out, for no other reason. Because as soon as you lay your hands on a conversation to steer it, it's not a conversation anymore; it's a pitch. And you're not a human being; you're a marketing rep. "
( you might try to guess what the flick is - or just google the quote ),- jakebouma, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The Big Kahuna
- doohickus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I'm impressed! I don't even know how I remembered the quote, it just came to me, rather mysteriously...
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