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- Wiini, on 01/02/2008, -5/+71Only gay people catch cocaine, right?
- zorroAstro, on 01/02/2008, -5/+65If they had any real sense of concern for public health, and wanted to make the biggest impact on the largest number of people, they would've developed a vaccine against nicotine.
- blindhammer, on 01/02/2008, -1/+28Coke is SO 1985. Where's the meth vaccine?
- Bukowsky, on 01/02/2008, -8/+34Not fond of the idea of people being forced to take this, but I would still rather see coke-addicts forced to take this vaccine, then see them all thrown away in prison...
- goeatsmsht, on 01/02/2008, -3/+27Is this really something we need to be vaccinated for?
- slvrbullet87, on 01/02/2008, -0/+23Hey 31 comments and I probably the only person so far to think this is a good idea. If somebody says ***** being addicted and broke i want help this would be great.
- flonglonger, on 01/02/2008, -3/+23More cocaine for the rest of us, am I right guys?
- LetsGoHawks, on 01/02/2008, -0/+17The nicotine "vaccine" has been fast tracked for clinical trials. I don't know that "vaccine" is the right word, but it is a shot that will last 12 months and blocks nicotine from hitting the right brain receptors. or something like that. I heard it on the TV news this morning.
- pcrow, on 01/02/2008, -0/+13So with this, along with the already developed nicotine vaccine and other similar anti-drug vaccines, how long until private institutions start requiring it? Want to go to a private school? Want to work for a large company? Get the vaccines first. Not to mention parents insisting that their teenagers get vaccinated.
Today it's drug testing. Tomorrow it's the vaccines.
It might even be a good idea. - Wiini, on 01/02/2008, -10/+22Buried for incredibly misleading headline. This is in no way a vaccine. it doesn't fit the definition, usage, or idea behind vaccine.
It's simply a drug that treats the reactions of Cocaine. - krnldmp, on 01/02/2008, -3/+14That's silly. All you need is a vaccine against CIA planes coming into the US from Colombia!
- MWeather, on 01/02/2008, -0/+10Am I the only one who read/watched A Clockwork Orange and thought it was a BAD idea?
- dotlizard, on 01/02/2008, -0/+10you know, not everything can be readily lumped with cancer research and discounted for not being as important. 2.2 million addicts should be justification enough, cocaine is pretty ***** devastating. sure it's voluntary to do coke, but many things that cause cancer are similarly voluntary examples of bad judgement.
i get really tired of people discounting any research that doesn't cure cancer, like that's bad. there's more to life than cancer. - Linkin4, on 01/02/2008, -2/+11Or they simply blow more attempting to counteract this "vaccine" and die from over dosing on the drug. Good call.
- dafragsta, on 01/02/2008, -1/+10Not everyone wants to be an addict. I've personally never tried the stuff, but I know friends and family who have. Cocaine is among the most addictive of any drug. Experimentation should not include a lifelong addiction. If you want to quit but are physically addicted, I'm sure it's very difficult, even if you have the funds to check into a rehab facility. Putting your life on hold is probably not conducive to helping the situation much, either.
Getting it forcibly, however, would be seen as a civil liberties violation by a lot of people. - mindovermusic, on 01/02/2008, -1/+10gives coke heads a reason to switch to meth Hurray!
- ihavebeenseen, on 01/02/2008, -2/+11Its a hell of a drug
- CrackyJSquirrel, on 01/02/2008, -3/+12Yeah because being an addict is so criminal..
- Bots, on 01/02/2008, -0/+8Not a bad Idea but at the same time they could just end up turning to use some other drug possibly something worse than coke. You have to get down to the reason why the drug is being used and work from there.
- Coven, on 01/02/2008, -2/+10There go my Thursday nights...
- epyon8282, on 01/02/2008, -5/+13Yes they are, lol...
- blindhammer, on 01/02/2008, -0/+8The REAL problem here is that a vaccine treats cocaine addiction like it's a medical problem but our justice system treats addiction like it's a criminal problem.
- inactive, on 01/02/2008, -0/+7Nobody's talking about forcing anything. Just helping those who have a problem and want to end their addiction.
I've known people who did cocaine every once in a while, very responsibly, for a quarter of a decade. I also know people who lost their job, wife and even kids within a year of snorting their first line. Different people, different reactions. - castags, on 01/02/2008, -3/+10Do you snort it?
- dotlizard, on 01/02/2008, -1/+7riiiight, that's what i meant. clearly i was completely misrepresenting the definition of voluntary. i wasn't referring to smoking, or anything like that. nope, i was totally insulting women.
douche. - Acewrap, on 01/02/2008, -1/+7Huh?
- gn0stik, on 01/02/2008, -0/+5You can, you don't HAVE to get the vaccine. Just if you want to quit. Also, just because you are no longer physically addicted to it, doesn't mean it doesn't still have the habitual mental compulsion aspect.
- ralph123, on 01/02/2008, -1/+6The funny thing is though, there is no physical addiction to cocaine. If people are addicted, they are addicted psychologically.
http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,9 ...
http://www.cocaine-addiction.co.uk/q&a.htm
Now, that doesn't mean that this addiction isn't a problem, but let's at least stay true to the facts. - heartcoldfusion, on 01/02/2008, -0/+5I can see this turning into the new war on drugs. On the first day of school, every child must present his drug vaccine papers...
- outlaw1, on 01/02/2008, -6/+11"Concept called 'clever idea'"
Know what else is a clever idea? Not doing coke. - vertinox, on 01/02/2008, -0/+5You know... If it weren't illegal then you wouldn't need to throw them in prison then you wouldn't have needed to spend money on prisons or this research.
- LetsGoHawks, on 01/02/2008, -0/+5No, this is something brand new, not even on the market yet. The talked about Chantix and Xyban as well.
When I quit, it was cold turkey. I spent about 3 months ramping down to where I was at 5 or 6 smokes a day , and as soon as I ran out after Jan 1, that was it. That was 5 years ago. Haven't smoked since. - inactive, on 01/02/2008, -0/+5I don't think that anybody should be *forced* to take this vaccine. The cocaine is not the problem, the *addiction* is the problem; neither should be a crime.
Addiction is a self-destructive cycle that is and should be treated as a mental health problem, not a criminal act; it is akin to criminalizing clinical depression, it simply doesn't work. Punishing somebody for their addiction will do *nothing* to help them break the cycle, and it will usually end up making things worse. I think that if you were to offer this vaccine, optionally, free of charge, to a person truly struggling with a coke/crack addiction, they would jump at the opportunity; whether or not they were under duress of the law. - smarba, on 01/02/2008, -1/+6it's not necessarily something that you should administer to everyone, but something to be used as an aid in helping those already addicted to quit. it's sort of like methodone for heroin users--you don't give it to everyone to protect against addiction if they ever wind up using it, just to those who have a problem and are actively trying to break the habit. "vaccine" is a misleading word in this case because not everyone will receive it as a preventative measure, but the concept of attacking the substance in the periphery before it can cause damage (like a virus) is why it's being called a vaccine.
- smarba, on 01/02/2008, -0/+4letsgohawks is right...it's in phase 3 (or 4, i'm not sure) clinical trials and works the same way that this cocaine vaccine does. this was just a precursor that led the way for the development of the nicotine vaccine and will surely be a template for treating various addictions in the near future. once the nicotine vaccine passes its clinical stages then it will be tested for effectiveness and from what i know, it should be out within the next few years.
- epyon8282, on 01/02/2008, -5/+9So this is basically a vaccine for fun.....lame....
- pcrow, on 01/02/2008, -0/+4Interesting. But does blocking the effect on the brain also block the effects that cause overdosing?
- skyshock1, on 01/02/2008, -0/+4'Till some backyard pharmacist comes up with something similar that isn't affected by the vaccine. It's not the drug itself that is the problem, it's people's tendency towards addictive behavior. I don't know what's the best way to make people NOT want to do harmful substances? But this isn't the answer.
- gak001, on 01/02/2008, -0/+4Didn't get it legally.... wtf? It's cocaine - when do you ever get it legally?
- Grambo, on 01/02/2008, -1/+5Not really a gay joke so much as it is an AIDS joke.
- analbumcover96, on 01/02/2008, -0/+3NO!!!! I like Lindsey Lohan the way she is...
jk i dont like her either way - inactive, on 01/03/2008, -0/+3The issue comes when they put a "required vaccination" (like how smallpox, or MMR were/are required) policy in place as part of the "war on drugs".
I would *love* to see this on the market (perhaps even provided free of charge, no questions asked, at addiction clinics worldwide) as a voluntary, optional vaccine; but as soon as they start mandating it (even as just a punishment or "plea bargaining technique" for convicted users), i'd like to see the ACLU fighting it right alongside me. - jonshipman, on 01/02/2008, -0/+3up your ass
Have a friend find it for you - drjones78, on 01/02/2008, -0/+3ahaha... that made me laugh.
- emalen, on 01/02/2008, -0/+3Men get breast cancer too, dumbass.
- Waterrat, on 01/03/2008, -0/+3 The problem i see right off the bat with a heroin vaccine is heroin is made from morphine...So would blocking heroin block the effects of morphine?
What if the X addict is in a car accident or develops cancer...How will his/her pain be eliminated?
Are the synthetic opiates going to be different enough to work for someone who has had this treatment? - inactive, on 01/02/2008, -1/+4It looks like I'm in the minority here, but I think it's a good idea. I wish they'd make one for alcohol and inject anybody that gets a DUI.
- inactive, on 01/03/2008, -0/+3It definitely raises some very hairy civil liberties issues if the sort of "required vaccination" policy comes into play (as has happened with smallpox, MMR, etc.)
I would like to see them continue to develop the vaccine and see it through clinical trials and onto the market; since there is a *great* potential for safely helping willing patients struggling with a cocaine/crack addiction.
However, I am worried that
1) this would render possible future cocaine-based therapeutic pharmeceuticals inneffective. Cocaine is already regularly used in dentistry as a topical anaesthetic, and anybody who has recieved this vaccine would thus be limiting their medical options (which may already be limited due to allergies, other drugs interactions, etc.) We do not know what potentially lifesaving coca-derived drugs/therapies we may discover in the future.
2) This may inhibit natural coca-mimetic chemicals in the body, cocaine receptors exist for a "normal" purpose in the body before they were found to be activated by some strange chemical in coca leaves; we need to make sure this doesn't start to attack chemicals neccessary for normal physiological functions
3) forced innoculation is an affront to our civil liberties. For something that is *clearly* harmful and nearly *always* deadly, such as smallpox; this may be an acceptable practice. But for recreational drugs, the issue is not so clearcut. What happens if/when they start developing cannabinoid vaccines, or caffiene vaccines? - Oea420, on 01/02/2008, -0/+3Actually, this is sort of a 'vaccine'
From the article "In concept, the idea seems simple. Cocaine (and many other drug) molecules are so small the immune system fails to recognize them and make the antibodies necessary to mount an attack. To help the immune system, Kosten attached inactivated cocaine to the outside of inactivated cholera proteins."
Basically he tricked the immune system into binding with cocaine and removing it from the bloodstream, very very clever - inactive, on 01/02/2008, -0/+2uhmm....
right.... -
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