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- redcolumbine, on 11/09/2008, -0/+33Wow. Hope it works, and doesn't have any unintended consequences. Human attempts to modify insect behavior have proven problematic in the past...
- secaedelcielo, on 11/09/2008, -2/+27The last time we modified bees, we got Africanized Honey Bees aka Killer Mofukkin' Bees.
- naturalpapa, on 11/09/2008, -0/+23We need bees more than they need us. The majority of food crops are pollinated by bees.
- jerryjamesstone, on 11/09/2008, -0/+20Awesome. Not to be overly selfish, but a world without honey is a sad sad world. Of course, the lack of crop pollinization also greatly sucks.
- ecochildsplay, on 11/10/2008, -0/+17I learned a new word: Apiculture
- brainovermind, on 11/09/2008, -0/+15Go bees! I'm almost out of honey for my green teas, so breed babies breed!
- Wintergreen0803, on 11/09/2008, -2/+15Can't help feeling uneasy about this plan. We as a species have already done enough damage.
- hbyrne, on 11/09/2008, -0/+12Colony collapse is as much a phenomenon of commercial bee keepers keeping bees in a more stressed state to maximize their profitability by pollinating more crops as the parasites that are praying on that vulnerability.
- cheesehead, on 11/10/2008, -0/+11 I raise bees. Varroa mites don't of themselves cause colony collapse and you don't need more dangerous genetically modified lifeforms to beat mites. There are people in the US who are currently having great success with using smaller forms or comb, which lead to smaller bees being hatched, which are less vulnerable to mites.
Apistat still works as does the organic alternative, carbolic acid. The Russians have a smaller bee which has no problems with mites. . Buried because this article is short on facts and is largely just another lame ad for GMO's. - oxdeltaxo, on 11/10/2008, -0/+11Killer bees for example....
- HairyPoter, on 11/10/2008, -1/+8yes, this is what we need. genetic modified ***** bees. continue destroying the ***** planet and creating GM crap. The planet thanks.
- shujin, on 11/10/2008, -0/+6to be honest, i find this bee-epidemic as far scarier than most other environmental problems, since this has a very large possibility of hurting humans very hard, very fast
- zzhiwen, on 11/10/2008, -0/+6I keep bees as a hobby. I lost two hives to CCD but one is still going. I plan to split it in hopes that the surviving hive is more resistant. Seems safer and more natural in terms of evolution. Of course I don't have millions at stake if I lose my last hive.
- inactive, on 11/10/2008, -0/+6You know you get some sort of tax break if you have an apiary that produces honey on your property? At least where I'm from. Apparently there's a shortage of honey in America.
- dzed, on 11/10/2008, -1/+7however there will be unintended consequences of this just as there are for everything .. humans just ain't smart enough to understand the full ripple effects ...
- inactive, on 11/10/2008, -0/+5Yeah, but they should have given them Gundam suits, so each bee was like 100 feet tall. That, and heat seeking missiles. Oh, and some crazy high powered lasers, too. Now THERE'S some killer bees.
- Sludgehammer, on 11/09/2008, -1/+6So, are you against crossbreeding and selective breeding or something?
- iancgi, on 11/10/2008, -2/+7Wow what a horrible solution to a serious problem. The bees are probably dying from all the genetically modified crops we grow.
Our arrogant attempts to play god will not be rewarded. - Frostek, on 11/10/2008, -1/+5Can you stop using that internet technology and shut up please? Thanks.
- jp12380, on 11/10/2008, -0/+4Was going to bring that up.
- Disinterested, on 11/10/2008, -0/+4i can't wait to see how this plan works out.
- vancouver89, on 11/10/2008, -0/+4While i hope that this works, I am quite skeptical about creating genetically altered animals. After all, killer bees were a result of tinkering with nature.
- MWeather, on 11/10/2008, -0/+4Large numbers of bee stings are fatal, hence the "killer".
- lougoose, on 11/10/2008, -1/+4Yeah, just change the animals so they work better with the environment...cause it has worked out so well every other time.
- zzhiwen, on 11/10/2008, -0/+3Well, the easiest and cheapest way is to go buy a full hive for $50 from a commercial beekeeper. Then the beesuit will run you $50-$100 more. That's all you would need for the basics. Once you get into extracting equipment and honey supers the cost will rise. I wouldn't plan to make money on the venture, but two years ago I pulled off 200 lbs of honey from three hives.
- cnot3, on 11/10/2008, -0/+3He's got bees! No bees!
- Perk, on 11/10/2008, -2/+5Oh yeah, great idea! It worked out so well the last time they genetically modified bees!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Africanized_bee - hellotyler, on 11/10/2008, -0/+3This sounds like the beginning of a horror movie...
- Akairenn, on 11/10/2008, -0/+2Doesn't seem to have worked out badly, either. I am unfamiliar with the Southwest of the US, however. Anyone here from around those parts? Are you guys still dying by the thousand to giant mutant bees, like was prophesized?
Progress will not be stopped, especially not in this area - especially not since human overpopulation will not be stopped. Look at the tripe people spew at China for trying to control their population - mostly because any limits to population will result in some very bad things happening. "I wanted a boy, so let's flush this girl down the toilet."
Sooner or later, we're going to surpass the point where we can provide enough food for the Earth's population, without which we get damned creative with science. GM foods and animals are coming, and no amount of 'lolorganic' will stop it. Nor should they. What we should be concerned with are the companies it's coming from. I'm looking at you, Monsanto. More evil than Halliburton and Darth Vader combined. :p - Khast, on 11/10/2008, -0/+2great...killer bees 2.0 Well, they though mixing 2 breeds of bee were going to make better pollinators.. instead they got aggressive bees which don't pollinate very effectively.
- inactive, on 11/10/2008, -0/+2Think of what could happen!!!
- inactive, on 11/10/2008, -0/+2Lets not forget that honey bees are not even native to North America. I wasn't around then, but I seem to recall in history lessons about a people called Native Americans who farmed and hunted and survived just fine until the invasion of Europeans. It's not nice to fool with mother nature!
- bluecrew02, on 11/10/2008, -0/+2My god! genetically engineered bees, let me be the first one to welcome our new overlords. Hail king bees
- inactive, on 11/10/2008, -2/+4Yes, and genetic modification seems like it has potential for even MORE disasterous effects!
- nomadxx7, on 11/10/2008, -0/+2Killer bees weren't genetically modified though. They were mated with 2 distinct bee populations to produce a hybrid. I think the genetic modification crap is scarier since we already can tell what happens when we use nature as the instrument for making new species.
- opticwind, on 11/10/2008, -1/+3Seriously? Want to throw down?
CCD has been appearing all over the world independently of each case. Places where people don't even eat honey. This proves that there is no causation between our "milking" bees for every last drop and the disorder. - AikoMiko, on 11/10/2008, -1/+3Great. To produce more silk they created the gypsy moth that devistated woodands. Say now let's ***** with something that can attack.
- Frostek, on 11/10/2008, -1/+3You've just learned something there, I hope...
- Jektal, on 11/10/2008, -0/+2I'm curious; how much time/effort/money does it take to setup a colony?
- redcolumbine, on 11/10/2008, -0/+2Is there a good article somewhere that details the currently successful and less dangerous remedies to colony collapse?
- Jektal, on 11/10/2008, -0/+1Man, now I really want to eat something with honey, but I think I'd feel guilty if I did...
And more importantly, I don't actually have any honey... - metapop, on 11/10/2008, -2/+3same goes for seeds:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terminator_seeds - nomadxx7, on 11/10/2008, -0/+1I also read they thought Colony Collapse Disorder was due to a lot of noise interference. Don't know if that was proven/disproven but if it still has a shred of credibility, how would making genetically modified bees help?
- Joeblogs, on 11/10/2008, -1/+2Another cool project on honey bees is at UBC where they're using genomic and proteomic identification of pathogen-resistant traits, subcellular and suborganellar imaging and the innate immune response of bees to help solve the mystery of the disappearing honey bees.
More info at:
http://www.genomebc.ca/genomics_programs/research_ ... - iancgi, on 11/12/2008, -0/+1All of nature is a symbiotic relationship, ***** up one aspect and it will spread. Playing god is not going to fix anything.
- opticwind, on 11/10/2008, -1/+2Bees...uh, bees don't polinate in crops. Also, CCD is occuring everywhere in the world at the same time. Not every country, or any country really, uses the same procedure for crop modification and distribution.
Because the most disturbing thing about CCD is that no bodies are being found. - opticwind, on 11/10/2008, -0/+1Well I, for one, welcome our zombie mutated killer bee overlords.
- MrFurious2k, on 11/10/2008, -0/+1What could POSSIBLY go wrong? If we end up creating a race of super-sentient bee overlords, I'm going to be really annoyed.
- dig1x, on 11/10/2008, -0/+1More on this topic, please read Oryx and Crake by Atwood.
- WilliamDavis, on 11/10/2008, -0/+1I think we should genetically modify professors so they don't feel the need to keep screwing with nature - mostly just for the reason that they just aren't good at it.
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