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- xdvx, on 01/14/2008, -20/+72I heard USA people don't use brains at all: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJuNgBkloFE
- thebellmaster1x, on 01/14/2008, -1/+40This makes me wonder if the differences are connected to language. When I solve problems, I usually talk to myself with an interior monologue; I think it would be interesting to find out if the connection does lie in language. (Specifically, I'm thinking about the Subject-Object-Verb order of Japanese and Korean versus the Subject-Verb-Object order of English. I wish they had been more specific than "East Asians.")
Then again, I could be completely wrong. But that's what hypotheses are for.
Just my two cents, anyway. - etsa, on 01/14/2008, -1/+19Definately. When speaking multiple languages and doing math... one finds one can remember and count better with a specific language over others.
- dinostabOMG, on 01/14/2008, -1/+11Yes, but that is their hypothetical framework for the experiment. It's possible that there are more factors involved, like thebellmaster suggested. I'm excited to see more research on this subject.
- damnyooneek, on 01/14/2008, -2/+12Funny... I asked my lab professor about this topic once and she looked at me like was crazy. dumb sh!t.
- jayfarer, on 01/14/2008, -1/+10Because race is a social construct that has no biological basis in our DNA. That's why the definitions of race get so muddled - just check out the arbitrary definitions in the national census. Here in America, it's easy to categorize and pigeon hole the clear divisions of race, but then you get to the way race & minorities work in Brazil or Japan and it's different.
Race, while its affects are real, is the result of people giving a name to the physical differences between us. These over time become social differences.
So no race is naturally pre dispositioned to be dumb or smart. - dadeef, on 01/14/2008, -0/+8Isn't language part of culture?
- norman619, on 01/14/2008, -2/+9How did this turn into an Anti-USA thread?
- loganarcher, on 01/14/2008, -0/+7Considering that different cultures have evolved and adapted to different conditions I would have thought that certain environmental factors would play a part in shaping the cultural mindset. What I didn't understand is how adaptable the individual mind is to it's immediate surroundings.
Maybe I'm not genetically inferior as I thought I was. Maybe I'm just different... - nyx210, on 01/14/2008, -4/+11Of course the USA has its own culture...
- Rapter09, on 01/14/2008, -0/+7You've never been to Japan.
Even coming from Canada it's like going to Mars.
Total cultural change. You can feel it just walking down the streets. - inactive, on 01/14/2008, -9/+14I always thought "No." But apparently, the most influential part of American Culture is Bombing and rebuilding countries.
- jayfarer, on 01/14/2008, -0/+5I have not heard of forensic detectives getting a blood sample and being able to tell that person's race.
Through genes you can trace lineage & such, but you can find equally strong/stronger similarities to people outside of your 'race'. - karmakanic, on 01/14/2008, -0/+5How completely Functional of you!
- TruthUnknown, on 01/14/2008, -0/+5It makes sense since as we develop are brains by absorbing what happens around us, noise to speech and identification of sounds, blurs to literacy and visual identification, you can get where I'm going with this. If culture can be observed, like many many other things, it can affect the brain.
- rainyman, on 01/14/2008, -0/+5You mean, [culturally] similar people think similarily?
- euro22, on 12/17/2008, -0/+5Nowhere in that comment is he quoting his prof. You know what they say... "Read twice, comment once".
- smek2, on 01/14/2008, -2/+6Wow, you guys are sure stupid.
- Poltron, on 01/14/2008, -2/+6I use my brain to store porn links.
- whiteninja, on 01/14/2008, -0/+4Don't forget American Idol.
- Murdats, on 01/14/2008, -5/+9yes, but I would think it wouldnt be one to be too proud of.
- WikiEasy, on 01/14/2008, -3/+7Do indians speak in that funny accent internally too?
- smek2, on 01/14/2008, -0/+4It is highly "adaptable", as a matter of fact, for the healthy individual mind to develop, it depends on influence. Humans are being born "unfinished", that is, our bodies are not fully developed as is our brain. We depend on parents, and society, to grow into an individual person, and being shaped heavily while doing so.
- futebollounge, on 01/14/2008, -0/+4thats funny because i used to live in germany for six years and although ive lived in america for 10 years, i still count in german in my head.
- inactive, on 01/14/2008, -0/+4I sparingly use mine as a garnish on special meals that I prepare. Hell, you only need 10% anyways right? would you like some pate de foie gras Clarice . . . .
- LaerrusFish, on 01/14/2008, -0/+3Culture is mired in history.
The US is too young to have depth to it's culture but it does have culture.
(New York is getting there) - Azerael, on 01/14/2008, -2/+5There's ample evidence that race does not effect a person's mental abilities or processes. Usually it's the culture these races inhabit that has the greatest effect, which is evident in this article.
- mannaran, on 01/14/2008, -2/+5Most of the Indian languages follow S-O-V order!! And most of Indians knows multiple languages as well as English
- saymawa, on 01/14/2008, -0/+3i've always wondered the same.
probably because i usually perform mental calculations in mandarin, bu conceptualise in english. :) - consoneo, on 01/14/2008, -2/+5That's what I was thinking the entire time I watched... Annoyed me. I knew every damned answer.
- hajamieli, on 01/14/2008, -3/+6Huh, so the USA now has exclusive rights on the word "america"? I see America(s) as continents, such as South America and North America. An american would be a citizen of any american country. A north american would be a citizen of USA, Canada or Mexico.
- keruha, on 01/14/2008, -2/+4Yeah, kind of makes sense. Asians who aren't used to absolute judgments had to concentrate harder to solve those problems. The opposite is true for Americans who aren't used to relative judgments. I mean duh, if you've internalized something, of course you won't need to put extra attention into it.
- tybris, on 01/14/2008, -0/+2Indeed, we call those either "Very bad scientists" or "Very misinterpreted scientists".
- LaerrusFish, on 01/14/2008, -0/+2Must have been public school
- karmakanic, on 01/14/2008, -0/+2...and MTV, Gilligan's Island, Baywatch... ...oh, and don't forget Playboy magazine.
Hmmm. Maybe you have a point about the intelligence thing. Except for Playboy, of course. - masterm1nd, on 01/14/2008, -0/+2That's a very good theory, but didn't the article say the brain activity differences were due to "American culture, which values the individual, emphasizes the independence of objects from their contexts, while East Asian societies emphasize the collective and the contextual interdependence of objects."?
- rp1supporter, on 01/14/2008, -0/+2This is NOT an excuse for NEO-CONS!
- dafragsta, on 01/14/2008, -4/+6What naive "furriners" don't understand is that the US is a big ***** place. We have miles and miles of rural area that might not necessarily have sexual inbreeding, but they sure as hell have lots of cultural and intellectual inbreeding. The more densely populated areas still have their share of shallow asshats too but America is no more guilty of this than any other country, per capita. Our education system is definitely failing.
- Azerael, on 01/14/2008, -0/+2Dugg for The Chaser.
- smek2, on 01/14/2008, -1/+3Wow, you seem to be angry. Keep reading, maybe you'll understand that "nonsense".
- Zaggynl, on 01/14/2008, -1/+3I heard chimps use macs as well
*ducks* - nreynolds, on 01/14/2008, -6/+8wait wait wait..... "USA people"? really?
EDIT: I'm dumb and just realized it was probably a joke, but if it wasn't.... really? - smek2, on 01/14/2008, -0/+2"Psychological research has established that American culture, which values the individual, emphasizes the independence of objects from their contexts, while East Asian societies emphasize the collective and the contextual interdependence of objects." -- interesting if not very surprising. Personally, i think to completely separate an individual from its context is wrong, that is "the independence of objects from their contexts" is an illusion. Anthropology shows that humans are all about context, our very personality is based upon influences from the environment.
- karmakanic, on 01/14/2008, -0/+2No, that's because you were dropped on your head as a child.
Me, too, since I can't see them either. - tybris, on 01/14/2008, -0/+2Because this is digg...
- inactive, on 01/14/2008, -0/+2The fact that you were screaming and naked at the time is why he looked at you like your were crazy.
- mlostracco, on 01/14/2008, -1/+3They aren't.
- frontporsche, on 01/14/2008, -0/+2I've heard from several people who have studied both English and Chinese, or both English and Japanese, that Chinese and Japanese are more visually-oriented languages. This is a result if their writing systems, which use thousands of symbols. I'd think this might be related.
- julc, on 01/14/2008, -0/+2Actually, I don't think this article is very helpful or very good science for that matter.
The title "East Asian Culture" is incredibly vague and there are often very large differences in values between the countries there. For example South Koreans are known to be much more direct than Japanese (stereotyped as evasive and shy). So are these "East Asians" individuals spanning across all of the countries? It is unclear from the article. Younger generations have very different attitudes than older generations. Etc.
Same goes for Americans - it is impossible to take ten individuals in all of the USA and make one statement about the cognitive pattern of all Americans. Where these Americans chosen across the country? From all socio-economic backgrounds? Of both genders? Gender can play a huge part - women are often culturally raised to be indecisive in the US too. Was the panel all composed of poetry professors, homemakers, or Wall street investors?
Basically, there are too many uncontrollable factors in a pool of just 10 people but the researches chose instead to assign everything to something called "American Culture" and "East Asian Culture." Moreover, I do not see any logical connection between the experiment result and the underlying claim then that "American culture, which values the individual, emphasizes the independence of objects from their contexts."
I just don't see how this experiment "proved" anything. Dugg down for bad science. -
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