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- zizzy, on 10/10/2007, -5/+120Imagine the possibilities this opens for porn.
- zeromancer, on 10/10/2007, -2/+72"...a dream-like state or use of alcohol or drugs."
when are people going to understand that alcohol is as much of a drug as anything else? - N10E, on 10/10/2007, -4/+69IF YOU DIE IN THE GAME YOU DIE FOR REAL
- illusiv, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6110/10 for providing the most confusing diagram possible.
- nandorocker, on 10/10/2007, -31/+85Oh no, everyone's favorite excuse for justifying supernatural BS is dead.
- dinostabOMG, on 10/10/2007, -4/+49I think what's interesting about this is mentioned in the article:
"The researchers say their findings could have practical applications, such as helping take video games to the next level of virtuality so the players feel as if they are actually inside the game."
That could be AWESOME. Strap on a Wiimote and feel like you've become Link? - crazymonkey1, on 10/10/2007, -2/+36I like the way you think.
- bodger, on 10/10/2007, -1/+31Wouldn't in-body be better for that?
- BeefBaron, on 10/10/2007, -10/+32You mean besides the Bible?
- Wichy, on 10/10/2007, -3/+25I am sure this is not a "fact".
- fyrehart, on 10/10/2007, -8/+28That's been dead for a long time. People just refuse to believe they were wrong.
- brharri1, on 10/10/2007, -2/+22Wait, doesn't the fact that rec. drugs induce OBE's indicate that it is entirely chemical? What's new here?
- AnteChronos, on 10/10/2007, -1/+19The problem there is the use of the term "while". The brain does some funky stuff to force incoming data to appear simultaneous even when it takes longer to process some bits than others. For instance, the brain can process sound much faster than vision, but it manages to time-shift one or the other to make you think you're experiencing both at the same time. I wouldn't be at all surprised to see the brain shift something that occurred at the edge of normal brain activity to feel like it occurred during the inactivity itself.
You might be interested in reading this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benjamin_Libet Specifically, the section labeled "Subjective backward referral or 'antedating' of sensory experience" - joel182, on 10/10/2007, -0/+16If you die in Canada, you die in real life.
- zizzy, on 10/10/2007, -1/+17What happens when you die in a game...
- AnteChronos, on 10/10/2007, -0/+16Care to cite a reputable source for that? Otherwise it's no more useful a statement than "my friend's cousin's fiancee's barber's neighbor once had an out of body experience. I swear, it's true!"
- judicar, on 10/10/2007, -2/+15i did too, it's called "ketamine"
- fyrehart, on 10/10/2007, -1/+13Add "allegedly" to every statement you made, and I'll listen to you.
- meatmcguffin, on 10/10/2007, -2/+14reply button? Is this something new you haven't heard about?
- Zthulu, on 10/10/2007, -4/+15While interesting, this does not address the occurrence of the perception of seeing ones own body during a near death experience. This happened to me during a near-drowning, and was quite spooky. Of course, I am rational enough to know that it was simple hallucination.
- thcobbs, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9I don't know.... Max Payne would be one ***** UP game to become the lead character in.
- jonnyeh, on 10/10/2007, -2/+11This story implies that if they can recreate one form of OBE, there's no reason why other forms can't also be explained by brain malfunction too. No OBE is exactly the same, since no brain or malfunction is exactly the same.
- AnteChronos, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10It's known in the sense that people know about the concept. However, there has been no conclusive evidence that it's any more real than things like astrology, alchemy, telekinesis, etc.
- meatmcguffin, on 10/10/2007, -0/+9So he *was* replying to the guy above him! I retract my apology and demand pie
- davidmwe, on 10/10/2007, -8/+16This proves nothing, although maybe useful. Did those that experience an out-of-body experience have on 3D googles, cameras and monitors all around them? The sensation of falling is not falling itself.
- endlessoul, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8I guess that sounded better in your head.
- catalysis, on 10/10/2007, -0/+8DMT induces an out of body experience every time in every user. Meaning you walk around in a dream-like state, meet creatures with different personalities, etc.
- TheFinaleofSeem, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8And you didn't even read the article, did you? They use VR and cameras to give you the illusion that you're staring at your own body and feeling the touches on it while you watch. It's nowhere near the same thing as, say, a near-death experience, which doesn't involve any kind of technology. Why do stupid trolls like this guy get dugg up?
- Pritchard, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9Can't agree with that. The description on this is really different from the type of out-of-body experience I had. I really didn't feel a thing, time seemed to slow down quite a lot and I was able to look around me without people noticing, like I wasn't even there. Uhm, then I fell asleep due to shock. In my opinion, I was hallucinating, barely awake and unable to control my body because my mind woke up before the rest of my body (sleep paralysis).
- wendelgee2, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9Was that right after you saw Britney Spears getting out of a limo? ((;))
- AnteChronos, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8There is no "thing" that is out-of-body. It's an illusion, which is kind of the point.
- MacEnvy, on 10/10/2007, -1/+83.14159
- Mockylock, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6Or a "K"
- ICSU, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8That's because real OBE is *****.
- MacEnvy, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6And there's a ***** ton of evidence that there's no such thing as remote viewing. Every time they've done a test, it ends up proving the "psychic" wrong. Successful tests have always, ALWAYS, been proven to be statistically insignificant or merely cheating. For more info on people who debunk false psychics, check out James Randi:
http://www.randi.org/ - lcarsdeveloper, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8There was a segment on Penn & Teller: *****! about NDE's, with people claiming to float outside their body and see their dead relatives. The same thing happened to test pilots in simulators being spun around to the point where they black out. Ah Youtube, to the rescue as always: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=714AS39CQ_I
- antitab, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7Before any more replies proclaiming the death of Spirituality, keep in mind that there have been cases of otherwise-impossible person-to-person communication during the course of an OBE. I've born witness to such cases personally through very good, rather trustworthy friends. I'm as much a skeptic as most of the Digg readership, and I don't even personally believe in any kind of Spirituality, but the possibility remains in the back of my mind, lingering due to situations like the above.
- waz67, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Here's something mildly related, but also fun to do. Get a camera flash unit, one that can be triggered manually to flash. Sit in a dark room for about 10 minutes, until your eyes are completely adjusted to the dark. Then hold your hand up in front of you, trigger the flash (not in your face, point it away from you!), and quickly take your hand away. You'll still "see" your hand in front of you, but your brain will know that it's not really there, giving you a really weird sensation. Next, try crouching down, trigger the flash and then quickly stand up. You'll feel as though you're a midget.
- h4mx0r, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Oh *****, ***** nightmare levels :(
LET ME OUT OF THIS GAME! - brooklynboy, on 10/10/2007, -3/+8The only thing that this proves is that people thought they were seeing themselves getting hurt and reacted. They also thought they were looking at a mirror image of themself.
If they made the "mannequin" do other things - like perhaps, lie down, kiss someone, play sports - and have you observe yourself doing this - then the reaction would be different, and much more accurate to an outer body experience.
Again, the only thing this proves is that if you see yourself getting hurt, you react. Big deal. - moxley, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Of course. They hear themselves from the other room.
- nubtard, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6I knew it was coming..
- hungryhermit, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7He's not talking about the street drugs you and your loser friends take.
- crapmatic, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6The definitive out of body experience comes from dimethyltryptamine (DMT), in fact so much so that it was the subject of a research study at the University of Mexico.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0892819278
However I guess the odds of DMT being useful for gaming technology are pretty slim. - ChromaVita, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5So did she. All over her face.
- je12u, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5Anyone remember the movie Brainscan w/ the kid from Terminator 3??
- Angel700, on 10/10/2007, -3/+8The body can't live without the mind...
- indicas, on 10/10/2007, -0/+5"The sensation of falling is not falling itself" isn't that the point? sensation without true experience.
- scrollo, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4"This experiment suggests that the first-person visual perspective is critically important for the in-body experience. In other words, we feel that our self is located where the eyes are."
Does this apply to blind people also? Are there cases of the blind having OBEs? - meatmcguffin, on 10/10/2007, -2/+6"People say alcohol is a drug. It's not a drug, it's a drink"
-Morris -
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