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- ViperDaimao, on 10/12/2007, -5/+104I guess you would need big balls to try this?
- ThinkFr33ly, on 10/12/2007, -8/+96Have you ever used a condom? They suck. If you can't tell the difference between sex with and without a condom, you've got something very, very wrong with you.
I use condoms because I have to, not because I want to. This stuff sounds like a winner to me. - blincoln, on 10/12/2007, -8/+78"What the hell is wrong with using a CONDOM?"
They cost money every time, they're a hassle to use, and they make sex less fun? - SixSider, on 10/12/2007, -2/+57Alright. I'm al for this and all but...
"Concern about side effects and insufficiency of safety data caused a temporary suspension of the project. However, expert panels subsequently concluded that the major side effect -- several weeks of non-painful scrotal swelling in about a third of the subjects --was not enough to stop the study."
33% chance of scrotal swelling. Yes, non-painful, but still... - icurnvs, on 10/12/2007, -16/+68Workster, Bush isn't going to ban this. This has nothing to do with abortions. If you think he'd ban this, why hasn't he banned the pill or other female birth control methods? Try thinking before you spout off like that again. Granted, I'm not Bush's biggest fan, but I at least think things through before I criticize the guy.
- justabum, on 10/12/2007, -4/+53Condoms are reliable, but not 100%. Most studies put them in the 95%-98% range. That's not bad, but even assuming a generous 99% success rate, you have 50/50 chance of at least one failure after 68 tries. That's a little less than half a year assuming 3 times per week. My son was born last month - and yes we used them every time. I'm all for promoting a procedure like this.
- ThinkFr33ly, on 10/12/2007, -2/+45"People like you are what is wrong with the world. Oh, boo hoo. Condoms aren't as fun as without condoms! Baby, let me FEEEL you!"
Are you kidding me? Just because I told the truth, that condoms make sex less enjoyable, I'm what's wrong with the world? What I said is true.
"People like that are the reason STDs spread like wildfire and they end up having more kids than they know what to do with."
No, people who don't use condoms and have irresonsible sex are why STDs spread and people have unwanted kids. Are you retarded?
"Why risk the rest of your financial future and even your health just because you don't like the feel of a condom?"
When did I suggest doing that? I just said condoms make sex less enjoyable. Period. I also said I use them because I have to. I have to because I don't want to have kids and I don't want to get STDs.
"Grow up and be men, you sissies. You don't know that the chick you're taking home for the night doesn't have anything (even if she's on birth control)."
Why don't you stop judging people who don't know. I've had the same girlfriend for over a year. I love her very much and she is the only person I have sex with. I don't like using condoms because it doesn't feel as good. I don't need to worry about STDs because we've both been tested, so the only reason I use them right now is to not have kids. This product would solve that problem. Get it? Or are you too busy casting down judgement on another random person on a message board?
"You don't know that the girlfriend you've been with for a year hasn't been wih 40 guys before you (the average female has far more partners than the average male - keep that in mind)."
True. But it doesn't matter since we've both been tested.
"You have no idea that the woman you've been dating for six years doesn't cheat on you."
Well, maybe you don't. I feel sorry for you, if that's the case.
"Hell, as a woman, you don't even know that your male partner doesn't go out and shoot up with IV drugs or get a nice occasional ***** behind your back."
Again, I feel really sorry for you. It's becoming much clearer now. - SixSider, on 10/12/2007, -1/+39It's only a few weeks of ball-swell. It could be a sign to women that you're taking precaustions.
"Do you have a big sack, or just glue in you tube?" - sardon1c, on 10/12/2007, -22/+57Condoms are not 100%. They even say so on the box. Just ask your dad seumas.
- ViperDaimao, on 10/12/2007, -37/+72um, never?
- brianb, on 10/12/2007, -5/+39Seumas,
I think Condoms are a great thing if you are having sex with many partners, however for birth control with a long term partner this is a much better solution. If you use a Condom with your girlfriend or wife for 6+ years because you are afraid she is cheating on you, go for it, but that isn't a very fun way to live. Personally I would dump her, and find someone I trust. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -21/+55Bush is Methodist, hello. Get your facts straight before trying to force an opinion on the President.
- StammesOpfer, on 10/12/2007, -8/+36only president that was ever Catholic was Kennedy all the others have been Protestant
- kbunsie, on 10/12/2007, -2/+29Anything that has to do with the testicles is risky in my opinion. Just having them run into each other is painful enough. No sir I don't like it.
- nadnerb, on 10/12/2007, -1/+27Has anyone read the possible side-effects for your girlfriends birth-control pills? Makes non painful' scrotal swelling a walk in the park.
- ViperDaimao, on 10/12/2007, -3/+27Yeah, if a girl gets pregnant, she can just get an abortion. Or she can have the baby and the guy will be forced by law to pay her part of his paycheck for 18 years or so. Either way, the guy has jack to say about what happens to him.
- rwelsh, on 10/12/2007, -3/+25@seumas:
My personal problem with condoms is they break, frequently enough that I don't feel comfortable using (and thereby relying on) them. I've tried different styles of Durex, Trojan, Sheik, and several other larger name brands and have this problem with all of them.
Of course, I realize this is a problem probably characteristic to me on the grounds of my own personal anatomy and sexual lifestyle/activities. I'll spare details, sufficed to say I use them properly, normally, and I use the correct and approved lubricants with them to prevent tearing from friction or dryness.
My point is, there is a demographic of men like me, who can tear through them over 50-60% of the time (in my case, because they're all a bit tight, sometimes painfully so), but aren't quite big enough to roll on a Magnum or comparable product line / size. A demographic that does like to have some control over their own seed instead of relying on the integrity of the female partner and what she's on. And that demographic is quite large.
I've been eagerly awaiting a product like this for years. I don't know if this is the one, but if they can get the kinks worked out... *****, I'd take a needle to the balls if it had me covered for the next 10 years, and one more if I decided to start a family before then.
In closing, there IS also the whole argument that sex just feels better bareback. I personally agree. But there is a surprising amount of men, women and couples that actually feel the opposite. Especially depending on the sexual activities. The beauty of a product like this is, it doesn't matter which you prefer...either will be a hell of a lot safer, where reproducing is concerned. (STDs, that's another matter.) - holiday, on 10/12/2007, -3/+24no more babies and i get huge balls...Bonus!
- Stikes, on 10/12/2007, -1/+18 * irregular menstrual bleeding
* nausea, weight gain, headaches, dizziness, and breast tenderness
* mood changes
* blood clots (rare in women under 35 who do not smoke) - saska, on 10/12/2007, -3/+19"make her get the depo shot, lasts for months and no period"
Plus a chance of 30% weight gain, mood swings, and vitamin B deficiencies that last for years after she's dumped you and quit depo.
"I love my sac too much to do something like this to it."
Excellent. You go fondle it, and the rest of us won't have to worry about you. - nicepants, on 10/12/2007, -1/+17I can see the commercials now:
"Are you Gellin?"
"Oh yeah I'm gellin" - GeniusCube, on 10/12/2007, -2/+17You trust women? A few weeks of swell to save me from the CSA sounds good to me. Until then there is always the rubber shield of justice!
- bluehouse, on 10/12/2007, -11/+26"I guess you would need big balls to try this?"
You don't need big balls to try this but there's a chance you could get them - mikeycav, on 10/12/2007, -2/+16"no thanks, make her get the depo shot, lasts for months and no period"
Wow, what a charmer.
She is a human being, not cattle. I am no feminist, but jeez, "make her" alter her body for you pleasures and "no period" because you have tolerance for a woman's cycle? Ouch. - JiMiThInG, on 10/12/2007, -0/+14While this does not seem like a perfect solution. I am all for a male contraceptive. Males pretty much have little to know reproductive rights. While its a complex situation with no easy answers, a male contraceptive pill would be a godsend and a major seller.
- icurnvs, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14Seumas, what do you propose us married people do? Let's see here...it's a tough one. I can either buy condoms every week until we're ready to have kids or I can have this simple injection that has the birth control benefits of condoms AND sex is just plain better without them. Sure, my wife can go back on the pill and have all sorts of problems with it (mood swings, weight gain, etc.).
So tell me Seumas, what should I do? What option makes the most sense? - pr0t0, on 10/12/2007, -4/+16I had a GF who tried the depo shot. She went ***** crazy after a few weeks. One night she started yelling at me in a Blockbuster Video over nothing at all...really. She apologized and decided to not use the shot anymore. We were allowed back at the Blockbuster after a heartfelt discussion with the manager :-)
Seriously, I'm with Seumas on this one. With the risk of pregnancy, disease, and FSM knows what else, it's far better to put a helmet on that soldier before going into battle. And for those that say you can't feel as much...grow up. - oddball, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14obviously a panel of women came to the conclusion that several weeks of scrotal swelling is no big deal. They are used to giving us blue balls I guess.
- lane.montgomery, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14A non-permanent male contraceptive would be huge for the drug company that comes up with it.
I don't think I'm alone in saying that I would much rather rely on myself to keep from having a kid than some one else. - rewritable, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11Many people have a well-justified concern for the safety issues involved in pumping. The pumping process can cause blood vessels to burst, and can form blisters. In some cases the testicles can be unexpectedly pulled into the cylinder and cause an extreme amount of pain as well as possible injury.
- Beanlover, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10Well...if you get a vasectomy you have to endure doctors sticking needles into your nuggets to numb the tubes enough to cut, cauterize, and tie off those little suckers.
I would have picked three weeks of non-painful sack-swellage over a week of needing (non-narcotic) pain killers and four days of needing a bag of frozen peas between my legs. - lysdexic, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Condoms break, Seamus. Maybe you've never broken one, but I've broken several and I thank my stars that I never ended up with a kid when it's happened. A broken condom is 0% protection.
- ThinkFr33ly, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Man, I can't wait to get me some sweet scrotal swelling. I'm gonna walk around with my balls in a wheel barrel.
- p9s50W5k4GUD2c6, on 10/12/2007, -4/+12@ Nodren --> "there is a huge difference between catholic and christian."
How freakin uninformed can you be? Catholics are Christians you ignorant *****. - Hey_Vern, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Plus, its reversible! That was the biggest hurdle for me and a number of other men I know. I love my wife and all, but there is always the "what if" factor. Deaths and divorces happen. I went through with the Vas, but this would have been a no brainer for me.
- MassOCH, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Generally I am just a lurker and I quite enjoy reading the stories on digg as well as the comments, but this story (and the comments posted regarding it) was enough to force me to register so I could add my own thought.
In my younger years, when the thing to do on a Friday night was to go out and get laid, I carried condoms frequently. Why? Not just to reduce the chance of pregnancy, but to reduce transmissions of STDs. If you are out there sleeping with 3 or 4 different women in a month, you're stupid and/or crazy not to use condoms. Just because she says, "Hey, I'm on the pill," I would still use a condom to protect myself and my health - that was priority number 1. Accidental pregnancy would have sucked (especially with some of the partners I've had - but that's another story), but it would not have *killed* me outright.
Now that I am older and I've been with the same woman exclusively for years, there is no longer a need for protection for my health. We go to bed with each other every night, we know where we are during the day, and we're having sex 3 or 4 nights a week. My priorities have changed now. We've had two unplanned pregnancies, our first because the condom broke, and second, because she had an improper dosage of birth control pills (we didn't find this out until after 7 months on the pill and she got pregnant, and needed something stronger) and was still able to get pregnant. If I had an injection like this a few years ago, we may not have had any accidents at all.
Don't get me wrong. I love my children and I'm glad I have them. But I have to say that so many of the comments posted here I completely disagree with. Sure, condoms don't feel all that great, especially because they ARE tight (well, at least for me). I am not equipped to be a porn star by any means, but I can tell you that the condoms I have tried would break and split before they would ever just 'fall off' of me. I wore them simply because of health reasons - I did not wish to catch an STD. My needs today for protection have changed, as I am sure they do with many married men. I do not wish to have unplanned pregnancies and I have completely dismissed the idea of catching an STD from my wife. An injection like this and GETTING the swelling of the testicles (which, they say, is not painful, and lasts only a few weeks), would be the perfect solution for me and MANY others out there like me in this situation - especially because it is reversible! If I wanted children in 10 years, I still could. It is completely elegant.
I did not even want to address the 'men and women are untrustworthy' comments above because this comment is already so long, but the simple fact is, if you have to worry about your partner cheating on you, why the hell are you with them in the first place? For sport? So you don't have to go months without getting laid? Face it, if I didn't want to be with my wife and she didn't want to be with me, we wouldn't be married. Period. If she cheats on me and I get an STD, I have bigger problems in my life than just catching an STD. - sixspeed, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9So Seumas, did you marry the skank that gave you herpes?
- Slungsolow, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9I thought the best male contraceptive was the digg.
- Ilyanep, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9If you think Condoms prevent Herpes then you are really stupid.
- MattH, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7you must be a Slashdot regular ;)
- FaerieFire, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7A significant number of women in Depo gain 20+ pounds if on it for any length of time... And some have problems getting pregnant after they go off it -- up to 18 months for problem cases, on average. Something to think about...
- rohcky, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7You post that under the assumption that everyone here sleeps around. As many people have stated (and as stated in the article) many of us are in long term relationships, some even married. Why should we use condoms? I don't cheat on my live-in girlfriend of 6 years. I know she doesn't either on me.
For once us guys can take control of the situation instead of relying on our mates to pump themselves full of hormones. If you think that this will lead to a wide-spread STD epidemic then blame it on the women. They can say no glove to love at anytime. You make it seem like guys are the only ones who complain about rubbers.
@seumas: I'm going to assume that you will never have children or are planning on artificial insemenation since you're so jaded about trust. - panique, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Yeah, you're going to get lots of women being all concerned for their safety like that. Do you even know the side effects of female contraception?
- earlycj5, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Blood clot happened to my wife due to "the pill" when she was 25. She didn't/doesn't smoke. Scary stuff, very scary. We'd been married for about a month when she was diagnosed.
Hafta use other contraceptive methods now. - icurnvs, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8I get your points and you do make some valid ones. You remind me of the guy on Beautiful Mind. You calculate the risks of everything you do before doing them. You get in your car and before you move an inch you calculate the risks of someone hitting you. Then if someone hits you, you calculate the risks that you'll die or be injured, etc. That's now way to live. I'm not saying that "living" is not knowing the risks. I'm just saying that life is way too short to get caught up in everything. Personally, I trust my wife and she trusts me. I'd never cheat on her and she'd never cheat on me. Sure that may sound good in words and all, but I truly believe it. I'd also like to think I'm in the 50% of marriages that do succeed. If you dwell on all the negatives, you're bound to be one of those negative statistics. If I keep on worrying whether or not I'll be in the half of marraiges that fail or the half that succeed and it consumes me, chances are I'll end up being divorced. I choose to be optimistic about life and it's worked out well so far. Like I said you do make some good points saumas. I won't dispute that one bit.
- streetstealth, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Wow. The word "trust" used to mean something else, I guess.
Seriously, guys. A truly healthy, trusting relationship isn't based on "I'll just hedge my bets in case you're cheating" -- If your relationship isn't in trouble, you'll have no trouble forgoing protection for what she says she has.
You trust someone because they've been true to you many times before, and you don't need to keep a freakin' contingency plan in the back of your mind. That's trust. - hometoast, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7There's something that is missing from this conversation. Condoms do TWO things, prevent pregnancies and prevent STDs. The method in this article is for ONE thing, preventing babies.
Married and couple in in long term relationships both could benefit greatly from a procedure/drug (which is it really) like this. My wife on the pill can be insane, but no more insane than we'd be with another little one on the way at this point.
You guys seem to be arguing different points. - brandizzle, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6Um...as a woman I can say that most of us lie. Alot. Now there aren't many that will say that they're on the pill when they really aren't, but taking a pill every single day at the same time (or within like half an hour or so) is a pain in the ass and we aren't likely to admit that we can't manage to do it. It gets rid of cramps, but instead we gain weight and get bitchier. So do you really want a fat bitchy girlfriend/wife?
- funkyebk, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7It's really no different than a vasectomy- the sperm that are produced after the procedure are "re-absorbed" into the body- 3 years since I had mine- no swelling... very little even after the procedure (which btw- guys that complain about the pain are weak- I've had haircuts that hurt worse.)
and for those that didn't listen in biology and are wondering if the spigot is just "turned off"- nope. no noticeable difference from before except no swimmers.
I REALLY wish this had been out 3 years ago- I would have opted for it over the permanent vasectomy... I don't regret it... 98% of the time...
The only downside here is NO PROTECTION FROM STD's... it's obvious, I know... But you'd be supprised how obvious becomes "Oh-Oh" when dealing with prime directive - jeffness, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7I saw on TV once about a way for a male to lower his fertility.. you have to dip your balls into 120 degree water for a period of time. the temperature kills all of the spermezoa and lowers your sperm count significantly for a few weeks.
you can read more about it here, halfway down. search for "water"
http://www.bookrags.com/sciences/biology/male-contraceptives-enve-01.html
"Immersion of the testicles in the warm water for 45 minutes daily for three weeks is said to result in six months of sterility followed by a return to normal fertility." -
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