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- daRoach, on 10/12/2007, -6/+62We already knew this because of "Revenge of the Nerds".
- saska, on 10/12/2007, -17/+65Seumas, you amaze me with your constant ability to come off like a pig.
- OBKenobi, on 10/12/2007, -3/+38I am well-versed in Vulcan mating rituals.
- ncaa76, on 10/12/2007, -2/+27That's because we can overclock the vibrator
- economissed, on 10/12/2007, -3/+28Someone's been reading http://www.tuckermax.com. :)
To throw in my two cents, most geeks suffer from four problems:
a) Looks: Can't dress, don't groom well, etc.
b) Odds: Aim too high, don't try often enough (it's a numbers game), etc..
c) Personality: Socially immature, anxious, etc.
d) Availability: They just don't spend enough time around women. - dstart, on 10/12/2007, -3/+26dugg for the picture ^_^
- Kazanoe, on 10/12/2007, -6/+28So we dont get stuff like sex right off the bat, who cares? the girl you get is gonna cheat on you, just like the nerd that she took for dinner.
Hope you get STDs because of it. - sithmat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+22My [female] friends and I all agree that nerdy guys trumps jerks all the time.
The types of girls attracted to jerks are those who have been abused by their fathers and have some strange Oedipal yearning to be abused by their husbands. The bad boys are fine for the slutty ditzs, but the nerds are too good for that.
A worthwhile girl knows that someone who treats her nice is infinitely more dateable than someone who treats her like dirt. - clockwizedbe, on 10/12/2007, -3/+24Well while you are somewhat on target with your argument that "Being a jackass, works somehow with the ladies," you and others like you will find emptiness along the way. I don't need to argue my point to prove it. Someone has already confirmed my opinion. Don't worry, when you finally get out of puberty then maybe you will understand what relationships are really made of. On a final note, the tag read "Technology aside for a moment..." If your always looking for technology news why did you click on the link in the first place?
- trunkster, on 10/12/2007, -2/+22I say just be yourself, and if that doesn't work then she isn't right for you. Really it depends on what TYPE of girl you want. Sure if you want some hot thing that just wants to get laid, then most likely you will have to sink to their same level and be a total ass. But if you want to be with someone because of a relationship (get married to) and not just for sex, then being yourself is the best and not pretending to be someone else. I doubt any girl would want to marry an *****, but would probably date one for the sex.
- PowerLlama, on 10/12/2007, -7/+26And I'm sure you're not a desperately pathetic nerd who's posting on a technology related news site. Obviously you have all of it figured out, and you have too much time with your hoards of women to create a long post saying about how much of a nerd you aren't are.
- Yeyui, on 10/12/2007, -1/+20I am a 'nice guy', and could probably be termed a 'nerd'. See below if you don't trust me. I am also married and can honestly say that I have never used any of the tactics Seumas mentioned. Further, I think that your "basics of love that one learns in highschool", are, well, demented. Unless by "love" you mean "meaningless, practically anonymous, short term f*** fest". It may be true that nice guys finish last, but isn't that the point? To be the last guy she chooses, the one she keeps?
(Nerd qualifications: I am about to finish a second degree in mathematics, have an above average IQ, have played in a dozen or so bands in my life, none of which consisted of guitars+set, dabbled in the SCA as an undergrad, was in the honors program 4-12 and undergrad, designed a browser based rpg, am writting an fantasy novel, have translated peotry into Quenya...) - johndi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+18Seumas, that only works with women with low self esteem. A real woman wouldn't put up with the BS, and if she did her self esteem would leave quickly enough. Of course going overboard and smothering will scare almost anyone off.
There's a little concept called balance or moderation that works well in most areas of life. - cranium, on 10/12/2007, -0/+17Being attractive to women has more to do with confidence than being a jackass. Just sayin.
- economissed, on 10/12/2007, -4/+18Since you're so far above everyone else, does that make you king of the idiots?
- catchthemice, on 10/12/2007, -0/+11The main thing people are over looking here is that people are different, and people do change. I am a girl, and I dated a "nice" guy for three years, then an ***** for a couple, and now I'm with the greatest guy ever (going on four years), and yes, he's a nerd. I'm a nerd. We don't dare try to deny it. But, I know plenty of girls that go for the jerks, and plenty that wouldn't put up with that for an instant. I know girls that love nerds, and others that wouldn't date a guy if he weren't wearing a 40$ tee shirt. That's all just human nature. So, before you start approaching a relationship by acting like an ass (ie. Not returning phone class, being a jerk), realize that you could be throwing away a relationship with a girl who just doesn't put up with that crap.
And as far as living with someone goes, that all just depends on the people involved as well. I've lived with my boyfriend for 3 years. We watch digg together and play video games until the wee hours of the morning, and if he had ever acted like someone he's not then we probably wouldn't be here today. - kefs, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12He may have used the wrong -ffect, but how in the world is the Check Spelling button going to help with that. Next time, try helping your peers.. instead of bashing them x2.
letmereplynow: here you go.. http://dictionary.reference.com/help/faq/language/a/affecteffect.html - Areku, on 10/12/2007, -2/+12This is probably the biggest load of crap I've ever read.
Just be yourself, people. Don't change yourself just because you're not getting any, trying to completely and utterly change yourself while dating is the biggest turn-off there is. - clumsyninja, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11I just spewed my coke everywhere. Thanks alot. :D
- Daem0nX, on 10/12/2007, -8/+17"Everyone" is one (1) word.
"Ain't" isn't a word. (Yes, I know it's now in the dictionary)
"Cuz" - is it really that hard to spell out a word?
You may want to use the "check spelling" button next time before calling everyone an idiot. Just a thought? - LCmidas, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10As a lady, I call *****. 1) There are always "other things" that many women will enjoy more than outright intercourse, and those are things a guy can become well-schooled in no matter his size... 2) Width is more important than length.
- funkytaco, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8True nerds wouldn't publish an article in Cold Fusion.
- ramsinks.com, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10However geeks are even better.
:) - Zedtech, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7I'm as much as a nerd, or even nerdier than most of you guys on digg, however I have also spent years doing public speaking, which has made me really confident in public outings and with the ladies.
From my experiences, Women don't necessarily want a jackass or a nerd, they want confidence. Every girl I have ever been with has called me cocky, has told me that I'm over confident with my judgements and with my abilities, and yet every girl has said thats what has really made them attracted to me.
Some women who I've been with couldn't stand the fact that I was a nerd, they called it a total turn off and would tell me to shut up when I started discussing nerdish things (like computer specs, admiration for certain developers, etc). Yet some women have told me the geeky thing is kind of a turn on.
As far as I can tell, it's all a matter of confidence and their preference. If you have half of what they are looking for, then you're still not what they are looking for. You need a little bit of everything to get the girl you want, not a whole lot of one thing. - gigabitten, on 10/12/2007, -8/+15GIGIDYGIGIDYGIGIDY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
- Durrok, on 10/12/2007, -22/+29Actually seumas is dead on. Nice guys don't want to hear that though so they modded you down :)
It's not shovinistic or being a pig, it is the truth.
Take this for example: Had a GF for 2 years and we moved in together around 1 1/2 years. She of course expected me to change who I was and what I did because we were living together, which lead to all kinds of conflict. I moved out somewhere around the two year mark. Now I would only call her randomly about once a week and almost never answer her calls. Got laid everytime I went over there and she thought our relationship was going better then ever, even though now I only called her when I wanted some ass. It's all about perception.
BTW, GF moving in with you is a very, very bad idea. - segosa, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8"check spelling button is right next to the submit button."
Both affects and effects are words and the spelling checker wouldn't notice a mistake in his message.
EDIT: bah, kefs beat me. - FlyboyP, on 10/12/2007, -1/+8Got a tutorial for that?
- funkytaco, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7Well, did you try being a nerdy jackass?
- beervolcano, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7Well, this is my husband's username. I read DIGG, but I admit I don't know what most of it means. I am an attractive 29 year old woman. I've gone out with the 'bad boy' types, and while it was interesting.. whom did I marry??? That's right, a complete geek (albeit a hot one). When I can't sleep at night I ask him to talk to me about computer stuff.. it puts me right to sleep. BUT What I am attracted to most is INTELLIGENCE! My husband is, hands down, the most intelligent guy I have ever met. He is well spoken and thoughtful. I could never be in a long term relationship with a guy if I had stop in the middle of a conversation to explain a word.
Edited to say that the ariticle is correct.. my husband knows what he is doing in the bedroom.. or the kitchen.. or outside in the pool.. ;) - FlyboyP, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6I'm still looking for the girl who will don the Princess Leia slave costume for me.
- DrakeGTA, on 10/12/2007, -4/+10From Artical: "Start Inside: Being unhappy with your life is not a good reason to get into a relationship. No matter how “perfect” another person may seem to be, they will never be able to fill the empty holes in your life. The only person that has the power to do that is you."
Dam straight, I wish more people knew that, the world would be a better place. - tastypastry, on 10/12/2007, -5/+11Seumas is right for the most part guys. Read this:
NICE GUYS FINISH LAST
By: Garrett Hols
It’s amazing that ***** can get girls. Actually, now that I think of it, it’s not that amazing. They are ***** at heart, but to meet girls they lavish their undying love. IT’S A CHARADE. They act nice, friendly, and they listen… until they get into what they’re after. Their prey thinks they are in love with them, however when they realize what ***** their predators really are, they pretend like the ***** is really nice inside. The girl tries to change the ***** into a nice guy, but ***** will always be *****. She gets upset and goes to the nice guy to complain about the *****. But she claims to love the *****… now this is where the theory begins. She doesn’t want to look like she is easy so she wont dump the ***** right away, instead she will stay with the *****. Girls are idiots. They don’t realize that the nice guy has been there all along. He never had to pretend to be a good guy to get girls because he is naturally like that. However, girls don’t see it for some reason or another. They look at the nice guy as a friend, a trusted companion to whom they can tell their sad story to about their ***** boyfriend. But the nice guy isn’t THAT naïve. He was trying to score with the girl he listens to all along. The problem is that since he is a nice guy he keeps listening. Since girls get attached to things that pay attention to them, they think of the nice guy as a friend. A FRIEND. They don’t say, “Oh he’s hot” or “I want to have his children” about the nice guy, they just want the emotional support. When they get the emotional support from the nice guy, they don’t need it from the *****. The nice guy gets the ***** end of the stick while the ***** gets all the action. I am starting to wonder if being a nice guy is really the route to take to get action… I have been down this path for all of my post-pubescent life and it has gotten me NOWHERE… at least not in the women department. Perhaps another reason why girls fall for the ***** is because ***** ignore the girl they are with. The women wonder, “Why isn’t he paying attention to me?” so they explore why. They poke and prod and get closer to the *****. They start to get easier with each attempt to get closer. The ***** finally says, “I’ve let this beauty dangle long enough, time to boat this bass”. It is then he puts on his charade and the girl feels like she has won him… even thought all she has won is an *****. Once you have gone down the path as a nice guy or a “listener” you can’t turn back. The girl will always go after the ***** because there are always nice guys there to listen. Once you realize that you are a “listener” you cant do anything about it… just pack up and close shop. There is no way you will get into her pants… ever. There is and never will be a situation where the nice guy will get the girl he has a crush on. It just doesn’t work like that. The girl wont “come to her senses” and realize what an ***** her boyfriend is like in the movies… instead she will just go after another *****, and unless you stop being a nice guy, she will never go after you. Women complain that there are no nice guys in the world. Right. They are obviously not looking hard enough because there are nice guys EVERYWHERE!!!! Girls aren’t looking for nice guys… they say they are but they’re not. They are looking for the perfect *****, but there is NO SUCH THING as the perfect *****. All in all, the nice guy gets the shaft. To all the girls out there with boyfriends that don’t treat you with respect, that don’t listen to you, and that don’t care about you I say this; look next to you. The guy that has been standing next to you the whole time is the guy you have been looking for. He is what you want your ***** to be like. He knows more about you than you know about yourself… because he has listened to it all. - Osiriscky3, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6When I put on my darth vader costume ladies cream their pants.
- rekrapt, on 10/12/2007, -3/+9Spelling Nazis Suk.
- Durrok, on 10/12/2007, -1/+7lol, trust me being myself on a date will be the biggest possible turn off :)
Not too many chicks are interested in the latest developments of the PS3, Revolution, NASA, Space in general, CC:G ZH, WoW, and other nerdy things...
... but if I could find one that was that would be the next ex-durrok ;) - chess007, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6 This whole discussion reminded me of Data in st:tng episode 'The Naked Now.'
Yar: "You are fully functional, aren't you?"
Data: "Of course, but--"
Yar: "How fully?"
Data: "In every way, of course. I am programmed in multiple techniques."
Yar: "Oh, you jewel! That's exactly what I hoped."
In all seriousness...
1. NEVER be a lapdog. Not for a woman, not for anyone. If someone can walk all over you they will never respect you. However, this doesn't mean you need to be a dumb-ass, but be confident, and don't let anyone use you.
2. There is nothing wrong with dating a nerd/geek woman. Often times nerds become blinded by 'The hotest chick in school/college' to the extent that they don't see the beautiful nerd woman that's their friend. Just because a woman looks nerdy, doesn't mean she is boring or that she can't have fun. You just might find that in a sexual situation shes wild as a banshee. lol Its true. There's a saying, "Its always the quiet ones." Meaning the quiet, shy, nerd types are very likely to be wild in the right situation.
3. Use your skills to your advantage. Band geek? Ok write her a song. (or compose a piece of music for her.) You're a writer? Ok write her a poem. Are you a funny person? Alright make jokes.
4. Don't be desperate. Don't be scared. Fear or desperation virtually gaurantee's you will fail. Don't be uptight.
The worst that could happen is she doesn't like you. So what? No big deal. There's always someone else, so move on. Don't become obsessed with one person.
5. Ask safe questions. i.e. fav movies, music, etc. Avoid politics, religion, or any other conterversial subjects.
6. There is nothing wrong with a positive change. (Don't read onward if you are easily offended....)
If you are extremely out of shape, no being yourself is not a good thing. There is nothing wrong with working out some. It would give you more confidence, and better chances while dating.
7. Wear nice clothes. Shower. Actually put some effort into your apperance.
8. Be confident.
9. Dont listen to the other people posting that you need to be a dumb ass, disrespectful etc to get women. That's not true. You don't want to be a dumb ass, you don't want to be a doormat. Find the middle ground.
10. A date is mearly going out with someone to see if you like them, or if its going nowhere, if they like you etc.
If it doesn't work out, so what? Don't take rejection personally. There are millions of women in the world. :) - toad3k, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5But even if you did find a girl interested in those things, why would it matter? WoW doesn't turn you on anymore than it does her.
Being yourself means expressing what you are actually feeling toward her. Not discussing politics. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6LIE, no girl wants to drink gallons of sperm like in pron.......Trust me I've tried.
- unlived, on 10/12/2007, -1/+6We nerds are better lovers because we practice so much when we are by ourselves.....................................
- ZachPruckowski, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5We're nerds. We make un-pronounceable words. It's how we roll.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5lol, and dont forget, we can install linux on it, so they can browse the web with it too :P
- DesiGUY, on 10/12/2007, -5/+9well, women are like this(atleast MOST of them)
they do EVERYTHING with the BAD GUYs, but when its comes to marriage they will go with the guy who THEY think is rich, sensitive, crap etc who happen to be NERDS. - spiderland, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Jocks only think about sports, nerds only think about sex.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Why would a relationship based on looks mean better sex?
- deBeuk, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Nerds make better EVERYTHING ;)
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Screw the Dew! it was Jolt that was spewed over here.
Yes, I'm the uber nurd, ladies. :-p - almostmanda, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4it's because "nice" guys play down aspects of their personality that they think women don't want to see. there's this belief among guys who label themselves "nice" that women want you to be sweet, non-sexual, and agreeable--and they classify anything less is "being a jackass." so, you have a bunch of guys trying to be "what women want" and getting it completely wrong. you can't sum up what ALL women want with any silly theories---all women want different things. but it's rare that we want a guy who's obviously putting on a show to impress us.
- letmereplynow, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5thank you for the spelling and comprehension lessons guys? lol :-S
- chubbyduck, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5seumas actually has a point, but he goes about it the wrong way. Geeks/nerds come at the dating scene with such low self-esteem that they generally present themselves as needy and have a bad date. If you were selling a car or a house you don't come at it with the idea that the buyer probably doesn't want to buy and you need to lavish on gifts and buy dinner and do the things they want in order to make the deal more attractive. Instead you come at the negotiation on equal terms looking to have fun. No, you don't need to answer every IM and phone call. Mainly because it looks needy and shows you don't have a life. Instead come at the dating scene knowing that you (the geek) are a wanted commodity and she isn't perfect either and let's see where this goes. She doesn't want the *****, she wants a confident guy she knows will have a good time with her.
And in the end the article is about your ability to make sweet sweet lovin with your woman so what does that have to do with being a jerk? When you get her into bed it's better if the man is looking for more than getting himself off. So go ahead and pretend to be the bad boy/***** and let the nerds figure out that it is more important to realize that confidence in who you truly are is what attracts the women. -
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