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NYC Trade Center dig exposes Ice Age landscape

news.yahoo.com — NEW YORK - Crews excavating the World Trade Center site this summer for the foundations of a new skyscraper have uncovered features carved into the bedrock by glaciers about 20,000 years ago, including a 40-foot-deep pothole.

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  • Daxx22, on 09/23/2008, -1/+8That's quite the pothole.
    • Nethid, on 09/23/2008, -1/+10Not if your from Pennsylvania. We have those in our highways, let alone the side streets.
      • destron, on 09/23/2008, -1/+6you're*

        Sorry, it's the grammar and punctuation po-po.
    • marshallpeck, on 09/23/2008, -13/+1This is obviously a lame attempt to bring up 9/11.
    • banthis, on 09/23/2008, -3/+2pot... hole...place to hide your pot ;)
    • BossKey, on 09/23/2008, -0/+340-foot pothole...wow. Those dinosaurs must have driven much bigger SUVs than we do today. No wonder they made themselves extinct!
  • gplpark92, on 09/23/2008, -0/+37did the engineers and architects not notice this when building all the other high-rises in Manhattan over the past century?
    • OneLess, on 09/23/2008, -1/+3Cheryl Moss seems to imply that this is the only place where the phenomenon looks to have occurred.
    • retinalfetish, on 09/23/2008, -0/+2Yep, they are very familiar with the glacial bedrock in New York. Geologists have found that it undulates like miniature mountain ranges. You can see where the ridges are via the location of the tallest buildings, which need to be built upon it. Outcrops of this bedrock can also be seen in Central Park.

      I think what the article was getting at was that is a rare occasion to study some of the more interesting glacial deformations.. that have not been weathered over time by the elements.
    • norman619, on 09/23/2008, -1/+4They don't give a damn about this stuff. Unless someone alerts the public or scientific community these finds get brushed aside or literally covered over. Construction companies as well as mining companies uncover archaeological finds all the time but tend not to want to share these finds because they know if they make what they find public work on the site will be slowed if not stopped while experts come down and have a look.
      • RudeTurnip, on 09/23/2008, -4/+1Good; let the past be the past, this is taking long enough to finish.
      • TVarmy, on 09/23/2008, -0/+4RudeTurnip, I'd love to see the towers rebuilt ASAP, but if we discover something amazing, I think delaying a construction project a few months to enhance human knowledge will pay off much more in the long run than an office building being open a bit longer. Good to see the construction team in this case did let the press report on this.
    • BigManOnCampus, on 09/24/2008, -0/+1Maybe they're digging a deeper foundation for this new building than the old WTC.
  • FredFredrickson, on 09/23/2008, -0/+33I think that by the time you pass about the 10-20 ft mark, you've moved on from 'pothole' to something more along the lines of 'crater.'
  • Weed86, on 09/23/2008, -14/+2the TERRORISTS made that!!
    • jeffkee, on 09/23/2008, -3/+2Yes, the liberal minded terrorists created that to deceive the faith of the good American people

      Just like how dinosaur fossils were planted to test our faith.
    • IglooBurner, on 09/23/2008, -1/+1We don't negotiate with terrorists.
  • Dagreenman, on 09/23/2008, -3/+72thats all very well and good but why the ***** is this taking so long.
    • IglooBurner, on 09/23/2008, -4/+21That's what she said.
    • 955701, on 09/23/2008, -1/+5It's the dinosaurs. They keep taking all the tools and they move faster than the construction crew.
    • kraftj, on 09/23/2008, -6/+1Because Bush is in office and the money is getting spent on other things?
      • form3hide, on 09/23/2008, -0/+4Since when is Bush & Co funding this project?
      • phate2292, on 09/23/2008, -0/+1Oh, clearly it's Bush's fault that this building is not getting built. Damn him he ruins everything not related to what he is supposed to be doing.
        /sarcasm.

        I'm not saying he doesn't have faults. But you can't be serious.
    • theOster, on 09/23/2008, -0/+3BUREAUCRACY!!! YAY!!!
  • Weed86, on 09/23/2008, -11/+3so does the hole contain 'pot'?
  • cgbspender, on 09/23/2008, -2/+16Nobody noticed this when the WTC was built?

    Ah, well, somehow I expected to see an Onion article after reading the headline.
    • mrstoneok, on 09/23/2008, -2/+1That's exactly what I did, I clicked on it thinking "Another Onion article, must be worth a look"

      duped again
    • OneLess, on 09/23/2008, -0/+8So nobody ever actually looks at the site domain next to the article description before clicking on an article? People seem to be "fooled" an awful lot.
      • sg7791, on 09/23/2008, -0/+1When I read on an RSS feed that they found ice age whatever under the wtc, I think of the Onion.
    • cgbspender, on 09/23/2008, -0/+2First headline, then description, then domain. Content is more important than origin.
  • stevetrojanman, on 09/23/2008, -9/+20F'ing Bush and his global warming...

    Melting all of our glaciers to build skyscrapers for his pals...
  • kolyana, on 09/23/2008, -13/+34Poppycock. The world is only 5,000 years old, so this story is clearly left-wing liberal b.s.

    /s
    • MeatyMcBeef, on 09/23/2008, -3/+86,000*

      Know the belief if you're going to be an ass to them.
      • jeffkee, on 09/23/2008, -4/+4The details are not the point. The whole concept is. Some believe in the figure 4,000.

        Of course, the fact that Chinese written civilization alone traces back at least 10,000 years is completely irrelevant to those people.
      • kolyana, on 09/23/2008, -3/+2Ah, you are clearly less religious and right wing than me. Your world may be 6,000 years old, but you are mistaken - it's 5,000. :p
    • JacksonYaya, on 09/23/2008, -7/+2*****. The world is OVER 9000!!! years old.
  • mrgodai, on 09/23/2008, -6/+5damn, they found my stash
    • worldchanger, on 09/24/2008, -0/+1usually they're right below your nose.....
  • freezerburn666, on 09/23/2008, -6/+1maybe it's a rip in the space time continium
    • MeatyMcBeef, on 09/23/2008, -1/+2STOP BRINGING THE LHC INTO OTHER DIGGS.
    • Tyrghast, on 09/23/2008, -1/+3I still have my fingers crossed for a stargate.
  • charters14, on 09/23/2008, -8/+5Glaciers made holes in the earth? Seriously? Why is this front page news? Buried.
  • OC73, on 09/23/2008, -0/+38Conclusion: NYC potholes caused by glaciers.
    • Orsigno, on 09/23/2008, -0/+0those are some big potholes
    • theOster, on 09/23/2008, -0/+2"Well, there are so many holes in 1st Avenue, we really didn't think anyone would notice"
  • cyrusuncc, on 09/23/2008, -0/+6I really liked that movie. The scenes with Scrat were the best.
  • jeffkee, on 09/23/2008, -7/+2Well at least some good came out of 9/11.
  • JacksonYaya, on 09/23/2008, -1/+21If you don't fix the potholes, the terrorists win.
  • Cerialthriller, on 09/23/2008, -2/+2pics or it didnt happen
  • bicyclethief, on 09/23/2008, -4/+24BREAKING: Giuliani to take credit for Ice Age potholes.
  • Ex3poo, on 09/23/2008, -0/+8CONSPIRACY
  • Murrdogg, on 09/23/2008, -1/+4FTA: "It's nice to look at, but it's all got to go"

    ... Go Science!
    • AtraNoxVII, on 09/23/2008, -2/+1Science...yet again owned by Brute Force.

      Science: -8
      Brute Force: 20

      When will they learn?
  • eigenweasel, on 09/23/2008, -0/+24GEOLOGISTS DID WTC
  • everlast88, on 09/23/2008, -3/+1How did Giuliani not get that pothole filled?
  • seandfeeney, on 09/23/2008, -4/+2Pics or it didn't happen...
  • Vorin, on 09/23/2008, -1/+1Someone watched the special on the History channel last night.
  • Lucas123, on 09/23/2008, -1/+240-foot deep pothole. Pfft. That's nothing. Come to Boston in the spring time. I'll show you pot holes.
  • isunktheship, on 09/23/2008, -1/+1Yeah theres some pretty ***** big potholes in NY, this wouldn't be the first...
  • gametavern, on 09/23/2008, -1/+1Weeze the juice!
  • BelatedHero, on 09/23/2008, -1/+1Since when is a pothole something to be in awe over?
    • UltX, on 09/23/2008, -0/+5When a truck load of Nitro Glycerine goes over one at 50mph.
  • TTURabble, on 09/23/2008, -8/+3Should we give credit for the find to Osama?

    /edgy
    • roebeet, on 09/23/2008, -0/+2I lost more than two friends at the WTC, and I'm not quoting an Internet meme, here. This is the real deal. Burying you.
  • zombiecarlin, on 09/23/2008, -0/+7The glacier took 2,000 years to dig that 40 foot pothole and the lazy unionized NY labor building at Ground Zero will only take 5-6 years to fill it. Manpower FTW!
  • davidjunit, on 09/23/2008, -1/+4LIES. Glaciers only recently started melting from man-made global warming. Now give me some money so I can sell you credits... 'n stuff.
    • fuzzmeister, on 09/23/2008, -1/+1The presence of natural cycles does not preclude the possibility of these cycles being affected or exacerbated by man.
      • govsucks, on 09/23/2008, -0/+3And your accusation that man caused is proven how again? By people who say "We believe that global warming is caused by mankind"

        These people KNOW we are to blame for global warming because they compared it to what precedent?

        You let me know when our current weather situation can be shown through evidence to be caused by mankind. And I'm not talking about some specifically selected time graph. Hell for that matter, you let me know when you can accurately predict the weather next month let alone speak for a biosphere that has cycles in the millions or even billions of years.

        Why don't you people tell the truth and say: "We GUESS its humans causing a rise in temperature, but we have no conclusive evidence." Consensus means nothing except that you could or could not have a large group of bandwagon idiots.
      • fuzzmeister, on 09/23/2008, -2/+1You do realize that climatologists have gone to school for this, right? This isn't some political debate you can just pick a side on, there is real science to analyze.
      • TRScheel, on 09/23/2008, -0/+2You do realize science is about PROVING things and not a consensus, right?

        Scientists cant just sit around and have a vote about whether or not gravity exists.
      • govsucks, on 09/24/2008, -1/+2Fine, Ice core samples show that the Earth has been both hotter and cooler than it is today. Now, prove that what we are experiencing right now is NOT another one of those types of events. What caused those events? Primitive neo-cons with a serious gas problem?

        Gravity and global warming are two totally different things. I can throw a ball up and show that gravity exists, can you do the same with mankinds carbon output? I don't think so. The fact is nobody is doing anything but guessing, as scientific a guess as it may be, its still a guess and we have no precedent to show that the "consensus" is correct.

        Run along back to the heard now little collectivist.
  • alpharaptor, on 09/23/2008, -0/+1quit poking around at the dirt and build something
  • SupaNeo, on 09/23/2008, -0/+1A 40 foot pothole? Sounds more like an ancient outhouse to me.
  • knowitman, on 09/23/2008, -1/+1If it wasn't for global warming, the glacier would still be there. Humans FTL.
    • D3IM0S, on 09/23/2008, -0/+2please tell me you're being sarcastic here...
  • ju66l3r, on 09/23/2008, -0/+5Noah's flood was truly amazing!
  • PEMDAS, on 09/23/2008, -1/+1Pixar's set for Ice Age 3 is ruined, thanks. Now we'll never know if the prehistoric squirrel gets the acorn...
  • uptwolait, on 09/23/2008, -0/+1They should keep that formation exposed in the basement and make it another part of the visitor's tour.
  • morcheeba, on 09/23/2008, -0/+6You've got to see the picture in the original nytimes article:
    http://www.nytimes.com/imagepages/2008/09/22/nyreg ...
    Article: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/22/nyregion/22rocks ...
  • UncleCrapper, on 09/23/2008, -0/+3While certainly interesting, there is the question of why crews are forced to ***** around in what is essentially a giant sandbox seven years after the towers fell when there should be two gleaming replicas of the World Trade Center.
  • Bloodandthunder, on 09/23/2008, -0/+0Good to know this country has its priorities in order.
  • orgazmo, on 09/23/2008, -0/+2They started to rebuild it THIS summer?! I must admit that being an out-of-touch Canadian I was under the impression that some kind of towers would've been up by now. 2001 was a long time ago :S
  • thegools, on 09/23/2008, -0/+1FTA - "It's nice to look at, but it's all got to go," said Robert B. Reina, a supervising structural engineer at Mueser Rutledge.

    I'm sure Mother Earth will say likewise for your species some day.
    • degree, on 09/26/2008, -0/+1Shouldn't you have said *our* species???
      unless.......D:
  • ikepigott, on 09/23/2008, -2/+1There were no glaciers in New York City 20,000 years ago. The earth then was exactly as it was 300 years ago when mankind started recording temperatures. I know this, because I saw a hockey-stick graph that was flat when you go back far enough.

    [/sarcasm]
  • tao52nyc, on 09/23/2008, -0/+0Hole in the ground, meet another OLDER hole in the ground. Their plans for the site are bogus, I want my Twin Towers back.
  • eclectro, on 09/23/2008, -0/+1Cavemen were driving monster trucks back then.
  • TwwIX, on 09/24/2008, -0/+1Anything to delay the construction. They haven't even build a memorial yet. This is a ***** disgrace.
  • PhoenixTril, on 09/24/2008, -0/+2FTA: "It's nice to look at, but it's all got to go," said Robert B. Reina, a supervising structural engineer at Mueser Rutledge.

    Is it just me, or is this a running theme?
  • Cattywampus, on 09/24/2008, -0/+1You never know what you'll find when you go digging in NYC. Back in the early 1990s excavation was being done for a new federal building when workers started discovering bones.

    Turned out that area of lower Manhattan was a major burial ground for Africans (free and slaves) in the 17th and 18th centuries. It's now the African Burial Ground national monument.
    http://www.africanburialground.gov/ABG_Main.htm
  • dggraphics, on 09/24/2008, -0/+0It's funny, the same story was dug almost 24 hrs before.

    http://digg.com/environment/Prehistoric_Pothole_or ...
  • BigManOnCampus, on 09/24/2008, -0/+1My question: How does a slow-moving glacier cut a 40-foot-deep pothole?
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