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NPR: how evolution differs from religion
npr.org — "Of course I believe evolution. But that is different from believing in evolution."
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- starmanjones, on 05/11/2008, -0/+6very nice. but the problem is greater than a good competent explanation can remedy. part of being radically religious whether you are in the middle east or in the united states is that you can't listen. anything that differs from the script offered up by the various sociopathic leaders has to be summarily rejected without any reasonable analysis. if you can't reject everything except what you are told then you aren't one of them.
for me personally i listen to them and i think to myself they must be faking this. they seem to lack the ability to competently break down these ideas. im not just talking about for or against anything. no matter what side you are on you should be able break the content of the ideas into discrete parts... they don't see the difference between evidence in my hand and evidence in a book in my hand.
that is a profound inability.- Sieker, on 05/12/2008, -0/+4I think that's part of the problem, man... Remember that scene in "Inherit the Wind" at the end, when he picks up The Bible in one hand and Darwin in the other, weighs them, then puts them both in his bag?
When you say evidence in your hand, What you mean is evidence in different books than the bible. Yes, books that need to face scientific rigor, books that have been constantly updated and brought closer to truth every year, but still books, or concepts. A biped's skull in your hand from the late Pleistocene, how do they know that it's actually from the Pleistocene? Carbon dating? Why would they listen to us when we talk about the half-life of an atomic structure? How do they know we're not making this up? Put simply, at face value and without knowledge of the natural sciences, why should they take our books over theirs when theirs makes so many better promises?
We ridicule them when we can't reach them, talk about how stupid they are. We're the ones who haven't been able to make the science clear enough that they can see the truth and beauty inside of it. We're the ones failing them, even if the culprit is willed ignorance.- Sieker, on 05/12/2008, -0/+1double post, sry
- starmanjones, on 05/12/2008, -0/+1>I think that's part of the problem, man... Remember that scene in
>"Inherit the Wind" at the end, when he picks up The Bible in one
>hand and Darwin in the other, weighs them, then puts them both in
>his bag?
i do know what you mean. my original comment wasn't just "book." it was something akin to "book containing pre historical folk lore." but decided everyone would know what i meant without the direct provocation. you did understand.
the difference is that i have a spear point in my hand. i have carbon dating results in my hand. i have a long line of scientists... many of them religious... contributing a piece of knowledge in my book.
the bible is a book of questionable origin. i know they say its from god but its not. it contains folk lore that has been translated and reinterpreted and some of the parts have been left out for political reasons along the way. we call into question the truth or historical validity of anything written that long ago... accept the bible.
so ya... if you don't want know how science works i can't make you learn. that doesn't reflect on science. if they want thump their bible and quote cryptic text that means something different... and yet is unyieldingly true for each person who quotes it... but it isn't and never will be science.
they are attacking science. science isn't attacking them. some knowledge directly contradicts their lore but again... that doesn't reflect on science and they don't have to listen. i would be very happy to ignore them just like we did in the old days.
if science just caved... and accommodated them... what we would have is knowledge being corrupted by small sect of affluent anti intellectuals... their religion can't be reconciled with science the way they want it to be. they can compare apples and oranges and not tell the difference. they can rebut fossil evidence by quoting John:33... whatever...
their reasoning is just plain broken. they don't want to see it but science is full of different religions. but they see it as science against THEIR religion. they are dangerous. they scare me...
- Sieker, on 05/12/2008, -0/+4I think that's part of the problem, man... Remember that scene in "Inherit the Wind" at the end, when he picks up The Bible in one hand and Darwin in the other, weighs them, then puts them both in his bag?
- Apokalyps2547, on 05/11/2008, -1/+6With science, everything I see refutes the biblical account of creation.
Look up. You can see the light from galaxies hundreds of thousands of light-years away. They weren't created in the last few milennia.
Look down. The Grand Canyon was carved over tens of millions of years by a river-- you can even date the rock layers by their radioactive isotopes. Ancient glaciers carved the fjords of Norway and the Great Lakes of the US. Not to mention 100-million-year-old dinosaur bones...
Look around. I'm surrounded by plastics created from petrochemicals which were crude oil, formed by geological forces acting on dead plant and animal matter.
Rant all you like about how God created the Heavens and the Earth 6000 years ago. I can see through your fallacy every time I open my eyes. - SuperWinner, on 05/12/2008, -1/+7I don't believe in evolution, I know it to be absolute fact. Belief gots nothing to do with it.
- Sieker, on 05/12/2008, -0/+5The beauty of all science is that *none* of it is absolute fact. Everything we know is constantly being revised, updated.
Knowing it to be an absolute fact is the wrong way to look at any science, not just evolution brother. - Fordi, on 05/12/2008, -0/+6Not absolute fact. Just probable to the point of certainty.
- Sieker, on 05/12/2008, -0/+1Somebody has read "The God Delusion". :)
- Sieker, on 05/12/2008, -0/+5The beauty of all science is that *none* of it is absolute fact. Everything we know is constantly being revised, updated.
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