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- oduska, on 04/01/2008, -4/+296MIDI?
- hermslice, on 04/01/2008, -5/+123april fools????
- ryborg, on 04/01/2008, -3/+108 MIDI 2.0? Meh
- geekchic, on 04/01/2008, -1/+81Back in the mists of time, a programmer wrote a basic version of Chess for the Sinclair ZX81 computer - in less than 1kb.
- Drehmini, on 04/01/2008, -1/+71Agreed. If you compare the two samples you can most certainly tell one was computer generated.
- SkippyDoorknob, on 04/01/2008, -1/+65I half expected the sample audio to turn into a Rick Roll at some point
- AndrewDB, on 04/01/2008, -5/+58Oh boy the RIAA is going to have a field day with this technology..
- Ganja420, on 04/01/2008, -1/+49WHOA THIS HAS BEEN AROUND SINCE 1991
- inactive, on 04/01/2008, -6/+50Music quality degraded 1000x.
iPod fans still unaware. - TheKorn2, on 04/01/2008, -3/+44Yaaaaaay, so now you need a 1 gig player "application" filled with the "physics" for everything from drums to synthesizers to elephants, to play a 1k file. Good job, boys!
Footnote: apparently, the clarinet player's physics are modeled in fairy-land, while the clarinet itself is modeled realistically. ("recreating in a computer both the real-world physics of a clarinet and the physics of a clarinet player") - Angostura, on 04/01/2008, -0/+36I have designed a splendid system of compressing piano solos into an extremely small space, all it requires is a specialised piece of decoding hardware. The sound is encoded into a series of dots and lines on a piece of paper. To decode, I have a wooden box with manually operated key connected to hammers which strike a series of strings.
- inactive, on 04/01/2008, -1/+37I rarely sit and think about compression. Maybe I should start.
Hmmm... Compression. - Chrisfromdevon, on 04/01/2008, -0/+35imagine how quick modern day machines would run if all code was normalized that efficiently!
- TheCheeks, on 04/01/2008, -2/+32Was gunna post the same thing but ill just digg you up instead. Sure, probably a more "advanced" MIDI but same concept unless I'm missing something.
- inactive, on 04/01/2008, -0/+28Moist eyes with the nostalgic memories.
- rblancarte, on 04/01/2008, -0/+26certainly sounds like it. Maybe this is supposed to be some sort of April Fools?
- Poltras, on 04/01/2008, -6/+27That's exactly what I was thinking. Isn't this just advanced MIDI replay? Is MIDI only used by professionals anymore that kiddies have forgotten about it?
- ryborg, on 04/01/2008, -2/+19This is a misleading title/article -- thats not compression!
MIDI 2.0? meh - gameforge, on 04/01/2008, -3/+20May as well be... this is like saying they compressed a Blu-ray version of The Matrix into 10MB by using dynamically-generated textures, mesh models, and Quake's replay engine at 1920x1200.
- inactive, on 04/01/2008, -2/+18Digital Signal processing/ resynthesis != MIDI. MIDI is just a set of control codes that allow an instrument like the Korg triton to interact with note press or midi sequencig. The kiddies certainly haven't forgotten about it because it's essential to making Dnb, Dubstep, Trance or whatever. MIDI is still used every day from pro studios to some kid using fruity loops studio.
- prgmctan, on 04/01/2008, -0/+13omfg... it's so flat...
- megaton, on 04/01/2008, -0/+13The resynthesis engine certainly isn't what's fitting in 1KB of storage!
I think his point was that the control data that's being stored for the synthesis is ~MIDI. - BigManOnCampus, on 04/01/2008, -2/+14Good thing this can't be used to compress political speeches. Simulating the physics of those windbags is next to impossible.
- IronPwnage, on 04/01/2008, -1/+12So...April Fools or not?
- powatom, on 04/01/2008, -2/+13That's because you don't have the software necessary to decode the 1kb file on your computer. So what they did is play the file through their special software, then just used something like Audacity to record the audio output as a .wav file. Kind of like holding a microphone up to a radio. You're not copying the audio information, you're just recording whatever comes out of the radio, as well as static and any ambient noise.
Of course, it may just be an April Fool's joke, but what they're talking about is theoretically possible, at least. I'm kind of skeptical about the 1kb file size, but without fully understanding what exactly is in the file itself, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt. - inactive, on 04/01/2008, -0/+10That's what she said.
- jasdf, on 04/01/2008, -0/+9It sounds horrid.
- viewofeverlast, on 04/01/2008, -0/+9LOL... midiroll'd.
- mlavergn, on 04/01/2008, -0/+9I had a ZX81, and to think people complain about the iPhone keyboard ... HA! We DREAMED of having a touch screen keyboard! We had to short the pins by hand, using our eyeballs to close the circuits ... and we were lucky! Fond memories of it though, here's the assembler source in case anybody wants to try to port it to X86 (joking): http://users.ox.ac.uk/~uzdm0006/scans/1kchess/
- KesshoRyu, on 04/01/2008, -0/+9So now all we have to do is stop using any instrument besides clarinets until they model all other instruments.
- MiddleOfNowhere, on 04/01/2008, -0/+9Kids, you can take two approaches: Compress an existing audio signal or synthesize what you want to hear. This article refers to the latter approach.
As others here have mentioned, MIDI is an established technology that will trigger notes from a (hardware or software; really doesn't matter) synthesizer.
Now all this - very fuzzy - article describes is a virtual instrument (probably a sophisticated physical modeling algo) that is controlled by a set of modulation parameters.
You could achieve the same with a run-of-the-mill PC, one of the better Physical Modeling VSTs and a set of controller parameters if you had a lot of time.
Move along, people. This *is* amazing, but it doesn't mean you'll get to download ten times as many Radiohead songs into your iPod or Zune. It means that we, the musicians, may get access to more sophisticated virtual instruments. But this is not a one-size-fits-all compression technology in the traditional sense. - niksko, on 04/01/2008, -1/+9He's right though. Everytime I try to explain why, for example, you shouldn't take an MP3 then encode it to wav again so you can burn it to a CD and play it through your parents expensive stereo system and then expect it to sound nice, it's always the iPod fanboys who say that they dont care about sound quality. They always say "But I can't hear the difference". If you cant hear the difference between the original cd and a low bitrate MP3 rip of that that has then been transcoded back to wav, there is something seriously wrong with your hearing.
- Dubbsacc, on 04/01/2008, -0/+8Dugg for mists of time.
- PiGuy, on 04/01/2008, -0/+7RTFA?
- inactive, on 04/01/2008, -0/+7If only wishing made it so.
- jeriqo, on 04/01/2008, -1/+8MIDI doesn't make any sound, it has to be coupled to either a sampler or a syntheziser.
I still don't get it.
Sure a 20MB syntheziser can produce thousands of hours of music, so what's new? - norman619, on 04/01/2008, -0/+7They lied to you. Politics doesn't really go with everything.
- fyrehart, on 04/01/2008, -3/+9Dunno if I'm just being retarded, but the wav file saved as 3.91MB...
- alexpigment, on 04/01/2008, -1/+7I think you missed the joke
- alexpigment, on 04/01/2008, -1/+7Well, that may not be the case on this. I mean it's one instrument and they have all the time to study and reproduce THIS piece of music. On the other hand, there will NEVER be a converter for a standard multi-instrument song. Which is why the tag line on this is total *****.
- 47f0, on 04/01/2008, -0/+6No, your MIDI sounds like a toy - that's because the MIDI in most sound cards is a toy. Given a decent midi patch set (I.E. samples) you can get some very good music from MIDI.
- powatom, on 04/01/2008, -0/+6Going to the moon wasn't necessary either, we just thought 'that would be cool'.
- Yazilliclick, on 04/01/2008, -0/+5Yes it most certainly is. The article was ok, but reading people on here taking it for real is better :)
- Fr0stbyte124, on 04/01/2008, -3/+8This is far better than MIDI. Much more control over the end sound.
- prgmctan, on 04/01/2008, -0/+5did you read the article?
Edit: PiGuy beat me to it - inactive, on 04/01/2008, -2/+7resynthesis has been around for a long time. Virsyn's Posideon, disco DSP Vertigo, Camelon500 ect. All of them give more convincing results than this.
- inactive, on 04/01/2008, -0/+5kinda like "vector" audio.
- Quenlin, on 04/01/2008, -1/+6This is obviously an april fools gag, unless they're using midi. Either way it sounds like *****
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