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Most Complex Crop Circle Ever Discovered [PIC]

telegraph.co.uk — The most complex, "mind-boggling" crop circle ever to be seen in Britain has been discovered in a barley field in Wiltshire.

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  • knarly, on 06/18/2008, -7/+838"Apparently we didn't get the message across with the simple circles, how do we tell these stupid humans we demand pie!?!"
    • Utopist, on 06/18/2008, -9/+110the pie is a lie.
      • sebnewall, on 06/19/2008, -12/+5thank god, i'm so sick of pie.
        • laughandsing, on 06/19/2008, -0/+8Really? You're sick of pie?!
        • floorman56, on 06/19/2008, -1/+23*Pi*R*squared
          No
          Pi are round
          Cornbread R squared

          Hick math joke ....
      • xtraa, on 06/19/2008, -2/+31This has been made within two minutes and a rope by some drunken math punks with 3.1415 beers per minute.
        • yayintertubes, on 06/19/2008, -0/+38Drunken math punks.. when will society find a solution to this growing problem?
        • CataKlysmiC, on 06/19/2008, -5/+4I see what you did there...
        • jamdogg, on 06/19/2008, -0/+5Those two drunk old men are getting pretty nifty with the planks strapped to their feet!
        • nuvarsity, on 06/19/2008, -0/+0..clever....
      • starkly, on 06/19/2008, -4/+24the cake is a fake.
      • Spudster, on 06/19/2008, -0/+2I see what you did there.

        There, I got another internet meme posted and neutralize. Go back to your lives people.
    • HellaBAD, on 06/19/2008, -1/+198There's a much easier way to go about it.

      Behold: π
      • Viend, on 06/19/2008, -9/+6Damn you beat me to it.

        I was trying to find it in the character map =/
        • bosssmiley, on 06/19/2008, -0/+16I think your pi may have fallen over in a drunken stupor.

          =/ - "Nonshensch! I'm a sober assa lord!"
        • Kyan, on 06/19/2008, -4/+2π alt-P works for me.
      • NRay7882, on 06/19/2008, -11/+6Seriously, Pi? I call *****, some scientist just wants to be famous. You know what I see? A secret-coded quadratic equation. Boom, there I said it. The secrets out.
        • threemagic, on 06/19/2008, -0/+30if you notice the distance between each hash measured as 1/10th of it's circle.. it is, indeed, pi coded.

          The first is 3 then you see the decimal.. then the first angle comes at 1/10 of that circle.. the next 4/10ths.. so on..

          if that helps you.

          It's good to see aliens use the decimal system and base 10.. I was worried about that.
        • bsonline, on 06/19/2008, -2/+1I think it would look the same even in base 6 or whatever. PI would still be PI, and still be represented by the same shape.
        • gn0stik, on 06/19/2008, -3/+1Guys, he was joking.. you missed it. A quadratic equation would be much harder to express in this format which would make it much more complex. Change your buries to diggs.
      • sjmulder, on 06/19/2008, -4/+1I only see a question mark.
      • johnwastaken, on 06/19/2008, -1/+1must... contain... head... from explodigedskm;g
    • Viend, on 06/19/2008, -15/+4π
    • thedinomeister, on 06/19/2008, -20/+2T
    • tumatakuru, on 06/19/2008, -6/+67It's the alien form of an internet meme:

      I CAN HAZ PI?
    • atact88, on 06/19/2008, -2/+2I have a hard enough time finishing tests with pi in greek letter form
    • yuanzhoulu, on 06/19/2008, -4/+6choice 1: yee-haw!
    • yuanzhoulu, on 06/19/2008, -5/+5choice 2: yee-ha!
    • thecarpe, on 06/19/2008, -2/+19Next thing you know, it will be story problems written into fields. Two trains are approaching one another, one from Southampton, the other from Cumbria, each traveling at....
      • sjmulder, on 06/19/2008, -0/+15…the speed of light. How fast will passengers from the train in Southampton observe…
        • dorianm, on 06/19/2008, -0/+0...the white cow flying overhead at an angle of ...
    • DestroyFascism, on 06/19/2008, -2/+11If they want to impress me, they should make it accurate to 45 places.
    • BigBinxter, on 06/19/2008, -1/+6Exactly, Knarly! I say we respond by making our own crop circle out of Euler's number 'e'. Only then will they come down for some pi + e = pie. Yum.

      I wonder what pie berries they have on their planet...
    • newstart, on 06/19/2008, -0/+3These aliens want our Internet Money. But you aint getting any. The Canadians tried a lot, even went on strike but no luck, so f*** off...
    • Sweetstix, on 06/19/2008, -1/+2I retrieved my password and logged in to digg this comment. Bravo sir.
    • RTHPineapple, on 06/19/2008, -0/+1It is pretty amazing that aliens also use base ten.
  • Bronnster, on 06/18/2008, -5/+254A Visual explanation that was interesting.

    http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1434&categor ...
    • giorgioarmani, on 06/19/2008, -3/+39For a more visually understandable explanation, go here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1027178/Ea ...
      • Viend, on 06/19/2008, -16/+5I don't know who's sadder, the person that made this crop circle or the person who figured out the meaning.
        • Chebsi, on 06/19/2008, -1/+8Why would either of them be sad?

          Are they sad because they don't follow suite with what you think would make a happy lifestyle?
    • greenroom628, on 06/19/2008, -7/+7yeah...graphical representations of numbers are cool. i wonder what the pattern would look like taken further out to say, 100 digits. i bet i can matlab that one.

      whoa, huge nerd moment there...
      • parax, on 06/19/2008, -1/+11Don't worry, if you avoid nerd moments long enough, you're guaranteed not to become one. Enjoy mediocrity!
      • sittered, on 06/19/2008, -0/+4You need a kleenex?
      • SolidBones, on 06/19/2008, -0/+5The mouth breathing gave you away.
    • Zaneris, on 06/19/2008, -5/+3Now if only you guys had shown me this was already done before I spent like a minute confirming that they did in fact shape the number correctly...
    • Lockhart, on 06/19/2008, -1/+8It looks like a pokeball.
    • billybibbit, on 06/19/2008, -0/+3i just don't understand how pi to 10 digits is more complex than the julia set
      • tacojohn48, on 06/19/2008, -3/+3pi isn't complex, it is irrational. Now if somebody wants to do something complex they need to remember to take the sqrt(-1)
        • arenas46, on 06/19/2008, -1/+3douche, he wasn't talking about that.
    • Apokalyps2547, on 06/19/2008, -0/+4Good link, thanks.
      This makes it obvious that it was man-made (actually I think that ALL crop-circles are man-made, but this is a dead give-away).
      Both the 360-degree system and the 10-digit decimal system are both arbitrary constructs of man. In short, aliens would probably use radians, and express Pi in binary, or use some other more universal mathematical system.
      • redslash, on 06/19/2008, -0/+5Well, they did things in multiples of 36, which is just one tenth of a circle (or pi/5 radians). So assuming they use base 10 (which admittedly would be arbitrary), doing things in one-tenth the circumference of a circle is not that surprising or arbitrary at all.

        Of course that leaves us with the twin assumptions that A) aliens that want to leave crop circles exist and B) they use the base 10 decimal system... but at least we're only down to two assumptions now.
        • HCIsland, on 06/19/2008, -1/+2Why would we assume aliens have a base ten number system? It's completely arbitrary. It's simply a function of us having ten fingers and ten toes.

          From a purely ascetic point, base eight, twelve or sixteen would seem more likely then base ten. Of course, assuming they have a system of mathematics at all similar to ours is another assumption.

          The post above is right. The crop circle pretty much screams I was made by humans, but was there really any doubt?
        • AmaDaden, on 06/19/2008, -0/+6@redslash Well if they viewed us I'm sure they could figure out that WE use a base 10 system so they might have left it as such for us because they knew we would be better able to understand it.
          @HCIsland Doubt is the more fun option for this story but my money is on that it was human made.
      • BNSF9647, on 06/19/2008, -5/+2And tell me....how do you know what is more univeral than something else? The only universal mathamatical system anyone here knows is the one we use. Who knows, maybe aliens use feet instead of metric!
      • Kyan, on 06/19/2008, -0/+6Gee, way to rain on someone's parade, dude. Do you tell little kids there is no Santa Claus, too?
  • Utopist, on 06/18/2008, -23/+174I want to believe
    • Lukesed, on 06/19/2008, -3/+32Coming to theatres near you June 25.
      • Darthyoshiboy, on 06/19/2008, -1/+14I believe you meant July 25, unless you're in some screwy international market that's going to see a release of this movie before the good ol' USA.
    • Ubertastic, on 06/19/2008, -10/+2This is not where I should be. I am trying to believe. /NIN Reference
    • gasoline, on 06/19/2008, -8/+2Nope, it's "I want to break free..."
    • bprime, on 06/19/2008, -2/+14Notice how, in the left of the image, the crop circle's outermost ring is tangent to one of the paths cutting the field?

      Whatever you want to believe made this thing, it was apparently traveling on foot :)
      • lintmonkey, on 06/19/2008, -0/+3The innermost circle also has a tangent line, which would provide two reference points for calculations. Nice catch.
    • terajoule, on 06/19/2008, -1/+10The truth is out there.
    • MtheoryX, on 06/19/2008, -0/+1They had me at Firefox:

      http://digg.com/software/Huge_Firefox_crop_circle_ ...
      • blarch, on 06/19/2008, -1/+1firefox was man-made, man-made crop circles die
  • VoxRatio, on 06/18/2008, -13/+678Wow. Those are some mathmatically brilliant hoaxsters.
    • RansomHoldiay, on 06/19/2008, -19/+6the original crop circle, the very first one ever made, was a hoax, and was openly admitted to be so.
      • Wartyboskfapped, on 06/19/2008, -8/+14Crop circles have been appearing for hundreds of years. There's a woodcut of the 'mowing devil' said to be the explanation for the phenomena back in the 1660s.

        So, no.

        This doesn't mean they're not all fakes, but your statement is factually incorrect.
        • mrzeero, on 06/19/2008, -19/+11Yeah, some of them are real. Right. I hope you don't vote.
        • FadieZ, on 06/19/2008, -3/+14^ Re-read what he wrote, smartass.
        • Mononuclear, on 06/19/2008, -2/+9@mrzeero I seriously hope you don't vote because you fail at reading comprehension.
        • Tossrock, on 06/19/2008, -4/+3Holy *****, this guy can read Wikipedia articles. I'm so impressed!
    • t0rp, on 06/19/2008, -21/+6or aliens
    • FadieZ, on 06/19/2008, -6/+56I'd like to join in on one of these projects, they look really interesting and I've got a few ideas. Anyone know if there's some kind of forum where they hang out or something?
      • jmp478, on 06/19/2008, -14/+73you need to get laid
        • Olivaise, on 06/19/2008, -6/+67If you're on Digg, so do you.
        • Yazoo, on 06/19/2008, -4/+7Oh. wow. SNAP! That must hurt.
        • FadieZ, on 06/19/2008, -0/+3I don't think there's ever a time in a man's life when he DOESN'T need to get laid. Unless he's in the process of getting laid... Even then, typing would be kind of hard.
      • elishagrey, on 06/19/2008, -1/+4The group of people that usually take credit for most crop circles call themselves "The Circlemakers" they used to call themselves Team Satan: http://www.lovely.clara.net/circlemakers.html
    • Sroek, on 06/19/2008, -15/+6That's because they're not human.
    • Kinnkster, on 06/19/2008, -12/+4I find it funny that you got dugg down by 2+ people.


      And somewhat sad.
    • sfacets, on 06/19/2008, -9/+21Not your average rednecks...
    • RayDTuTu, on 06/19/2008, -11/+1Very near where I went to school.
      Ridgeway School Wroughton.
      They have a good maths department.
      I got an A in Maths A level and went on to do a degree in Maths.
      • gn0stik, on 06/19/2008, -1/+6What did they study? And how many maths was it?
      • Technohamster, on 06/19/2008, -1/+2Maths is what english people call math.
      • redslash, on 06/19/2008, -1/+1Buried for not knowing how to spell "math".
    • Final, on 06/19/2008, -1/+25I saw a special on Discovery Channel where they actually followed around a group of people who do this. They would take the crop "drainage lines" in to the area they wanted as to not be tracked. And then use planks of wood with a big rope on it, they stand on the plank and then hold up on the rope and step around with the plank as "another foot" basically, in a circular patter. Hard to explain. But then just follow up the schematic they had layed out.

      It was a cool show to watch, saw it a few years back. Anyways, they showed a timelapse of them doing it. It wasn't as cool as a pi circle, but I'm sure a lot of planning could do that.
      • lcarsdeveloper, on 06/19/2008, -7/+7I saw the same footage, but then they made a comparison and the woodplanks actually crushed the stalks as they were being pushed over. The "real" ones were undamaged.
        • Otto, on 06/19/2008, -3/+17Or more likely, these so called "real" ones were done on wet stalks instead of dry ones, so that they bent instead of broke.
        • Ratty, on 06/19/2008, -3/+2You're as crazy as any religious nut.
        • saxmaster, on 06/19/2008, -1/+6No, the real ones were bent as if heat had been applied. The plants would continue to grow in the bent position. Further, the nodes or joints often exploded as if heated by microwave. The Discovery MIT team was a joke, they didn't even come close, and they had to set off a bomb in the damn field to get one of the telltales right.
      • iSinned, on 06/19/2008, -5/+4I was typing the same thing but saw that you wrote it already.
        I'm not denying there isn't any alien life on another planet, but for the people that believe this stuff, stop watching so much sci-fi.
      • CaptainTater, on 06/19/2008, -0/+4I saw that too. It's just another video whipped up by the man to cover up one of life's great truths. Just as they came up with all this mumbo jumbo of how 9/11 was nothing but airplanes and magical melting steel.
        • cuppyCake, on 06/19/2008, -0/+2Also, Nostradamus wrote of the truth behind the JFK assassination: the FBI couldn't brainwash him with chemtrails, so they had him assassinated because he used his time machine (that he got from the same aliens who make the crop circles) to visit the future and learn that the moon landing was going to be a fake!
      • peevatoe, on 06/19/2008, -0/+1lol didn't they call themselves "croppers"?
    • diggydougie, on 06/19/2008, -0/+2Probably college students.
    • 3amboo, on 06/19/2008, -0/+1yeah im still trying it figure it out
    • LakeFeesch, on 06/19/2008, -1/+1Yeah, brilliant, they can look up Pi, and make arc length relative to the numbers. Gosh, must be a higher intelligence (easy since half the people are dumber than average!).
    • foreignwarren, on 06/19/2008, -0/+3OMG they even ROUNDED UP the tenth digit!!!! SURELY a sign of extra-terrestrial intelligence...or cheap taiwanese calculators.
  • lucy22, on 06/19/2008, -24/+6"mind-boggling", I agree.
  • scamerica, on 06/19/2008, -10/+451Probably the work of a lonely teenage geek alien with no girl friend just passing by with daddy's flying saucer on a late Friday night.
    • BodomX, on 06/19/2008, -1/+129Hes going to digg this article when he gets home.
    • Haoie, on 06/19/2008, -2/+24Then I guess everyone replying can relate to him, hmm?
    • curiosity0cat, on 06/19/2008, -10/+5ROFL
    • sostoudt, on 06/19/2008, -2/+17if one guy did this i think i would be more impressed then if aliens did it. i mean thats some talent to be able to make that look so perfect.
      • solidus636, on 06/19/2008, -8/+4"Probably the work of a lonely teenage geek ALIEN with no girl . . ."

        READ.
    • mit7, on 06/19/2008, -0/+15If the girlfriend's name was Cherry, why did he only write her last name?
    • gn0stik, on 06/19/2008, -1/+9I am said alien, and am taking this chance to make first contact. Don't tell my dad.
      • outToLunch, on 06/22/2008, -0/+1haha lame but worth a dig for the attempt :)
    • franklymister, on 06/19/2008, -0/+4I think you're talking about Douglas Adam's "Teasers:"

      "Teasers are usually rich kids with nothing to do. They cruise around looking for planets which haven't made interstellar contact yet and buzz them."

      They find some isolated spot with very few people around, then land right by some poor soul whom no one's ever going to believe and then strut up and down in front of him wearing silly antennae on their heads and making beep beep noises. Rather childish really."
    • TnTBass, on 06/19/2008, -1/+3I really hope that's the why these crop circles are made. That way, when the aliens finally do make contact publicly, we can ask them about the crop circles.
      The Alien leader will respond: "Timmy! Get over here and apologize to these humans for flattening their crops. How many times did I tell you to behave?!?"
      Alien son: "Sorry dad"
      Alien turns back to us: "Teenagers... they never listen".
      Humans: "Really? We've been researching these for years! We thought they had special meaning!"
      Aliens: followed by face huggers. Then the predators come... I think there is a movie like this somewhere. /tangent
  • psichopate, on 06/19/2008, -8/+88Beautiful.
    • sostoudt, on 06/19/2008, -0/+3my thoughts exactly
    • thescimitar, on 06/19/2008, -0/+3It's stunning how graphic representations of mathematical concepts can be so elegant, as elegant as equation (or irrational!) itself.

      How beautiful our universe is, because make no mistake, these are the structures of our very existence.
  • mattbeetee, on 06/19/2008, -6/+133It's nice of them to remain out of our hair for over 50 years, really, isn't it? Just every now and then a casual crop circle here, a leg sticking out of a bush there...
    • nottheonlychris, on 06/19/2008, -1/+73A peep in the window around the corner
    • UncleHenry, on 06/19/2008, -0/+25I also hear they don't like water.
    • gbv23, on 06/19/2008, -1/+7The ships that do come have to remain in stealth mode as they are bending the rules.
      The ETs say we won't be joining the federation until we stop destroying our planet and each other. We're mostly quarantined.

      Folks who make crop circles are hearing the same truths that the ETs are trying to express.
      Or maybe they really do just spring up spontaneously. Ask the crystal skulls
  • mrzeero, on 06/19/2008, -19/+198I saw some show years ago where two guys could make one of these with a couple of boards and two ropes in less than 3 hours.
    • gjaslkgjfdsio, on 06/19/2008, -5/+78Yes I saw that too, and I also recall that the "experts" furthermore said that it was humanly impossible to create such accurate circles...

      Some people just want to believe.
      • chaosium, on 06/19/2008, -3/+66"the 'experts' "

        Uh, "crop circle experts" aren't experts in any other facet of life. They're not even experts on crops.
      • ZeroDarkness, on 06/19/2008, -6/+18That's why the "experts" don't just go by the shape of the crop circles anymore. Iron particle dispersal and microwaving the stocks of the crop take slightly longer than 3 hours.
        • MindStalker, on 06/19/2008, -0/+5Even so I doubt this was wasn't human made. It's Pi in Base-10 with a decimal point? Come on..
        • itzac, on 06/19/2008, -0/+2So taking meaningless measurements with instruments they don't understand, and samples without controls, is enough to convince you that an alien race traveled light years to come here and found no better way to communicate with us than wrecking our food crop?

          ...

          Wanna buy a bridge?
        • chaosium, on 06/20/2008, -0/+1"That's why the "experts" don't just go by the shape of the crop circles anymore. Iron particle dispersal and microwaving the stocks of the crop take slightly longer than 3 hours."

          Neither occurs when people step on circles with boards, which is how they are made. You're adding needless and disproven details.
      • Spankov, on 06/19/2008, -5/+11Correct me if I'm wrong but have the crop-circle makers ever shown a circle they've made that is anything more than a circle rather than the other intricate designs that have been found?
        I recall two guys in England claiming they'd made loads of circle but when demonstrated they did really rough, untidy simple designs.
        • DemonDomen, on 06/19/2008, -3/+10That's because the camera crew didn't have all day for them to finish.
        • breadfred, on 06/19/2008, -1/+18I still find that easier to believe than that some kind of alien civilization lands on our planet, decides to put a funky design in some wheat, and leave again. Oh yes, without any sign of them in the process. I just follow the logical conclusion, but will you?
        • darkstar949, on 06/19/2008, -0/+7@breadfred - Maybe it is just graffiti - after all, humans are known to visit places and plant a flag or carve a rock or something to show they were there.
        • sjmulder, on 06/19/2008, -0/+10Well in case they're wondering AND reading Digg:

          Yes, there is ice on earth.
        • Moetownslick, on 06/19/2008, -0/+4DemonDomen thats *****...if the camera crew is there for the purposes of documenting a crop circle creation, they should stay as long as it takes and edit later...its their ***** job after all.
    • sostoudt, on 06/19/2008, -0/+4were they doing ones this complicated? all i remember was them saying they would put up a lantern across the field as a guide or something?
      • oxdeltaxo, on 06/19/2008, -2/+4You place a pole in the middle as a focal point, tie rope at a height which would not disturb the tops off the plants, then proceed to use that rope as a radial guide.
        • Otto, on 06/19/2008, -4/+1Why go to all that trouble when a simple compass will work just fine? Realistically, you don't need anything else other than a compass, a bit of string for measuring distances, and some minor advance planning. A GPS receiver would certainly be useful though.
        • lintmonkey, on 06/19/2008, -2/+2Yeah, a GPS receiver would be handy, but to have that technology in the early '90's you would have had to be an alien. It's easier to use a rope at night rather than squint at a compass. The techniques have already been developed, and they've worked fine for this long, so why change them?
    • gbv23, on 06/19/2008, -5/+2Circle-makers are unconscious agents expressing the truths that we need to learn so as to move-on to the next stage. The good ETs are already there--working in 5 & 6 dimensions when we're barely at 4.1
    • Al3x, on 06/19/2008, -0/+22So....you're saying aliens came down with boards and rope??
      • refugeechris, on 06/19/2008, -0/+2Possibly a compass/gps. though it would be dark
        • MtheoryX, on 06/19/2008, -0/+2They have a freakin spaceship, but not even a backlit LCD?
  • Chainheart, on 06/19/2008, -3/+55Ah, now is the perfect time to go have a reread of Sagan's Demon Haunted World.
    • romistrub, on 06/19/2008, -2/+21Dugg hard for Carl Sagan.

      We need another one :(
    • username484767, on 06/19/2008, -4/+2Hrm, ty, I needed an audio book to fall asleep to tonight, I'm DLing it now! Thanks!
  • LastDitchHero, on 06/19/2008, -24/+2With crap like this no wonder no one takes real sightings and evidence serious.
    • trogdoor, on 06/19/2008, -7/+14"real sightings and evidence"

      like?
    • trogdoor, on 06/19/2008, -6/+12"real sightings and evidence"

      like?
    • crapmatic, on 06/19/2008, -6/+14"real sightings and evidence"

      like?
    • Yage2006, on 06/19/2008, -11/+1I'm sure your being sarcastic hehe.
    • RyanBlack, on 06/19/2008, -2/+7"real sightings and evidence"

      like?
      • peacebyanymeans, on 06/19/2008, -5/+1Oh ***** my ontrol, my "see" keys are broken.

        Now I an never be like the ool kids. :(
    • Ravatar, on 06/19/2008, -4/+7"real sightings and evidence"

      like?
    • mehan, on 06/19/2008, -2/+8"real sightings and evidence"

      like?
    • mcduck, on 06/20/2008, -0/+1"real sightings and evidence"

      like?
  • IpsoPhatso87, on 06/19/2008, -8/+233"There's a monster outside my room can I have a glass of water."
    • weaseloption, on 06/19/2008, -5/+50shyamadugg.
    • gkwillie, on 06/19/2008, -4/+47WHAT A TWIST!
    • pantone286, on 06/19/2008, -13/+6shyamasuck.
      one hit wonderboy.
      • djHBRD, on 06/19/2008, -3/+5Three hits, at least. Signs, Unbreakable, and obviously the Sixth Sense were great. Let's just ignore the Crappening.
        • pantone286, on 06/19/2008, -3/+4Sixth Sense is great no doubt. Everything else you mentioned is crap. Sorry but this is the clarity of hindsight speaking. The guy is a hack. Call it arrested development if you must but he is not capable of making another good movie. The crappening will be one of his last.
        • wacomwacoff, on 06/19/2008, -0/+4Agreed. Unbreakable's a brilliant piece of work. Signs -- well, somewhat, except for the really disappointing "twist". Since then, a downhill slide which I hope will be reversed by the Avatar movie(s) he's working on now.
        • petebot, on 06/19/2008, -0/+3I like unbreakable more than the sixth sense. Honestly, once you know the twist, the movie's not that good, but unbreakable still works on repeated viewings.
    • LucasVB, on 06/19/2008, -4/+39Shiamalamabangbangdingdong.
    • xtinamo, on 06/19/2008, -0/+16This part used to give me nightmares:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZvB9pGmcWWw
      • _skin_, on 06/19/2008, -0/+5I love his reaction! OH!

        That movie made me feel like it was happening in real life and I was going to have to deal with it when the movie ended.
    • stinger666, on 06/19/2008, -2/+3Discovery's "A Haunting" episodes are scarier than this movie
    • Sornos, on 06/19/2008, -1/+6I don't care what Digg thinks; I love that movie. Good camera work. The subtle stuff scared the ***** out of me. The silhouette on the roof top? Pants filling.
  • c0mputar, on 06/19/2008, -21/+4its prly our future fckin with us
  • Lukesed, on 06/19/2008, -15/+90So the aliens, who apparently know enough about physics and engineering to create faster-than-light vehicles, just now figured out geometry?
    • Mononuclear, on 06/19/2008, -2/+33yes, and they have to round pi to ten digits because more than that is just too complicated.
      • sittered, on 06/19/2008, -1/+35Corn is very low-res.
      • sittered, on 06/19/2008, -0/+21But they put an ellipsis, too. Because ellipses are totally not a Latin-based written linguistic convention native to humans.
      • Slovenian6474, on 06/19/2008, -0/+20...or their TI-83 Plus calculators only display 10 digits.
    • notwizt, on 06/19/2008, -2/+25I'm not buying this at all, but your argument is weird. "Showing" Pi to humans makes perfect sense if that is something that we and the possible aliens have in common. Just because they are showing it to us doesn't mean they "just discovered it", which seems to be your view.
      • breadfred, on 06/19/2008, -1/+17OK, I'll bite. Not hard, just softly, it won't hurt - trust me.
        If you were this alien civilization visiting a planet and you wanted them to know of your existence, what would you do? Would you look around and try to find the largest communication center, try to find the political epicenter, maybe even the axis of evil - or would you leave an ambiguous circle in a crop field which can be interpreted as being home-made?
        Seriously, making crop-circles sounds like great fun - for human beings.
      • rykukatei, on 06/19/2008, -0/+1i see your point...they probably are so far advanced that when they view us, they may think we are way below them in the technological realm...so they probably used something that they know we can figure out...rather than using something that we possibly haven't discovered yet that is far too complex for us to figure out...but that last number being rounded up has shaken my belief a little, because that could be a sign it is fake, but at the same time they could have the same rounding technique...i don't know...im just sharing my opinion
      • Wakkyweed, on 06/19/2008, -2/+2@rykukatei

        What's so damn hard about contacting us? Just land a spaceship on the Whitehouse lawn. Or at a TV studio. Instead they use some strange sort of crop circles with lots of math in them.

        Are these aliens so dumb that they cannot even figure out how English works?
        • Kyan, on 06/19/2008, -0/+6Because if they figured out how English worked they'd leave a message saying:

          "IM IN YUR CROPS MAKIN SERKULS FER YOO"

          and then everyone is going to believe the aliens came? Right...
      • notwizt, on 06/19/2008, -0/+5First, I never assumed that aliens actually did this crop circle. I just said that using Pi as a means of communicating isn't strange, as they probably would realize that we understand it. Why would they want to contact earth immediately? If humans discovered an inhabited remote planet we sure as hell wouldn't land in the middle of a city and start greeting the aliens. We would probably phone home, and a huge political debate would ensue.

        I'm still not saying there are aliens up there though.
    • Slovenian6474, on 06/19/2008, -1/+4Or they've been trying to show us more useful, complex things and we mistook it for "pretty circles" until they just said "***** it! We'll do it live! Just put down pi!"
    • gbv23, on 06/19/2008, -0/+1Its not so much "faster" than light---they jump-though space-time---we're still traveling on the "surface" of space.
  • QubitTarutaru, on 06/19/2008, -22/+65Do aliens also have 10 fingers? 6 x 9 = 42
    • ivosilva, on 06/19/2008, -2/+9Ok, I'll admit, I don't get it... Could someone explain it to me? Is this about base of ten?
    • Rage67, on 06/19/2008, -3/+246 base 13 × 9 base 13 = 42 base 13
      hitch hiker's guide
      • snapcase, on 06/19/2008, -0/+20"you don't write jokes in base 13" - Douglas Adams

        "The answer to this is very simple. It was a joke. It had to be a number, an ordinary, smallish number, and I chose that one. Binary representations, base thirteen, Tibetan monks are all complete nonsense. I sat at my desk, stared into the garden and thought '42 will do'. I typed it out. End of story" - Douglas Adams

        The base 13 thing was unintentional.
    • Nescirian, on 06/19/2008, -0/+5Dugg down so you have 42 diggs.
  • happyseamonster, on 06/19/2008, -3/+91Me to aliens: Spit it out already! What the ***** are you trying to say?
  • mrzeero, on 06/19/2008, -7/+114Here is the wikiHow article on how to make these.

    http://www.wikihow.com/Make-a-Crop-Circle

    The only difference is that they threw a little math into theirs. Nice work.

    Whoever buried my first comment should read it.
    • quamb, on 06/19/2008, -12/+15I saw this doco on crop circles.

      Apparently "legit" crop circles have pretty bizarre properties. Such as radiation buzzing about, the crops are never broken (just somehow bent over without springing back up) and if you walk around one in the opposite direction of the bending-crops you can get rather nauseous.

      In anycase, it has been said to be quiet frustrating for any scientist to research this 'phenomena', as they'll never be taken seriously due to all the hoaxed crop circles. Oh well!


      • chaosium, on 06/19/2008, -18/+12"Apparently "legit" crop circles have pretty bizarre properties. Such as radiation buzzing about"

        No.

        "the crops are never broken (just somehow bent over without springing back up)"

        This is easily replicable with boards and rope.

        "and if you walk around one in the opposite direction of the bending-crops you can get rather nauseous."

        Oh come on now, you people are retarded.
        • soupdawg30, on 06/19/2008, -3/+26Seriously, your argument is "no"?
        • Tanktunker, on 06/19/2008, -4/+6NEVER QUESTION SCIENCE!
        • Otto, on 06/19/2008, -0/+4What other argument does he need than "no"? I mean, it's a complete and total fabrication.

          Find a radioactive crop circle. Just one will do.
        • chaosium, on 06/20/2008, -1/+1Yes, the argument is that these claims don't hold up to any scrutiny.
      • pahool, on 06/19/2008, -0/+2It's "quiet frustrating" that people will believe almost anything.
    • Slovenian6474, on 06/19/2008, -0/+1This one is TOTALLY legit.

      http://www.lucypringle.co.uk/photos/2002/uk2002bn. ...
  • Modestexcuse, on 06/19/2008, -8/+101I know they are completely fake, but that is still cool. That had to have taken hours.
  • B08ama, on 06/19/2008, -9/+2Each digit is 360/19°, or ≈18.947°.
    • aladrin, on 06/19/2008, -0/+5How the hell did you fail to calculate that? Even if a quick visual will show you that '5' goes halfway around, making the whole circle 10. So 360/10 = 36. It's really not that hard.
  • snowrider221, on 06/19/2008, -31/+3how the ***** is that pi ?
  • demodawid, on 06/19/2008, -34/+3Ok I feel like a total nerd for saying this, but the first 10 digits of pi aren't 3.141592654, they are 3.141592653
    • ArchetypeRyan, on 06/19/2008, -0/+15The digit after the tenth is 5, hence it was rounded up.
    • kakwakas, on 06/19/2008, -0/+7It's rounded up at the last digit...
    • B08ama, on 06/19/2008, -0/+5Read the explanation. They said that it's rounded.
    • fas2, on 06/19/2008, -1/+53.1415926535

      It's rounded.
    • mrzeero, on 06/19/2008, -2/+5FTA

      Michael Reed, an astrophysicist, said: "The tenth digit has even been correctly rounded up. The little dot near the centre is the decimal point."
    • Tenlow, on 06/19/2008, -1/+4FTA "The tenth digit has even been correctly rounded up. The little dot near the centre is the decimal point"
    • 0x0000ff, on 06/19/2008, -0/+4rounded up, It says in the article.
    • Castor385, on 06/19/2008, -0/+4Probably rounded from:

      3.1415926535897

      to 3.141592654
    • lolmacs, on 06/19/2008, -0/+9Tis rounded up noobz
    • greenroom628, on 06/19/2008, -11/+3its 3.14159265358 to 12. rounded to 10 significant digits, its 3.141592654...sorry, its the engineering and math degree...

      oh my god. i have to stop...
      • mehan, on 06/19/2008, -1/+12they teach that ***** in 3rd grade, don't flatter yourself.
      • shizamonkey, on 06/19/2008, -1/+2...you could have just said it's rounded up...
    • terracottapai, on 06/19/2008, -2/+8*comment about rounding oblivious of previous comments about rounding*
      • qTrainer, on 06/19/2008, -0/+1aaah, that was a good one! Somebody had to say it. :)

        ... please let me add fuel to the fire.

        One comment that brings into question the intelligence of mankind to interpret abbreviated Pi and 10 replies that suggest man kind does not learn from his mistakes unless the lesson is repeated many, many times.

        OMG, this is not a good showing for us. :(
        They are gonna fist bump us out of orbit if we don't show some promise.
  • mal1964, on 06/19/2008, -10/+9They must of used one of those new smart tractors.
    • imakecomments, on 06/19/2008, -3/+6"of" => "have"
      • mal1964, on 06/19/2008, -1/+9Should have
        Would have
        Must have
        I was corrected a few months ago and appreciated the simple nice mannered lesson. This might be my first relapse so thanks for your courteous and simple reminder
  • PhrosTT, on 06/19/2008, -3/+14but can they memorize 90,000 digits of it like some humans.
    • soupdawg30, on 06/19/2008, -0/+6He "sees" it . No memorization.
    • LucasVB, on 06/19/2008, -1/+8Spoiler: they weren't humans..
    • rykukatei, on 06/19/2008, -0/+0they probably have done it before among the other aliens who got bored and had nothing else to do while travelling or something if that nature...
    • LLLSecretChimp, on 06/19/2008, -0/+3That circle would destroy the world's grain crops.
  • Nidy1, on 06/19/2008, -15/+3I don't get it.
  • RevJonathan, on 06/19/2008, -10/+44You'll get your Barley back England, when Ireland has her freedom!
    • EmperorAwesome, on 06/19/2008, -1/+9Every bit's precious. Those ***** dampened our beer-fixens, perhaps to a very small degree, but some barley was destroyed nonetheless. To war!!!
    • ProfessorRiffs, on 06/19/2008, -0/+3But they'll never take....


      ...OUR FREEEEEEDDDDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM!!!!!!!!!!!
    • jmreedy, on 06/20/2008, -0/+1Dugg because you are the first person to comment on the fact that it was in a barley field.

      ....just seems like a good waste of beer making magic.
  • homer420032003, on 06/19/2008, -26/+1Hi Im stupid: can someone explain how this is "cool" or difficult to do?
    thanks
  • RockStarMVP, on 06/19/2008, -9/+0That must have taken hours to make and why's everything relate to math?
    • RevJonathan, on 06/19/2008, -0/+9Did you seriously just ask "why's everything relate to math?" on digg?
      • sneedo, on 06/19/2008, -2/+4Did you seriously just ask a Digg user with 420 in his name if he seriously asked "why's everything related to math" on digg?
        • mrzeero, on 06/19/2008, -2/+1HA HA HA HA HA
        • sneedo, on 06/19/2008, -0/+4yikes I thought Homer420032003 started this thread,.... My mistake, carry on.
  • anonymousT, on 06/19/2008, -3/+9either that or math geeks on steroids
  • mixsense, on 06/19/2008, -16/+28It looks nice but its far from complex or mind boggling. Anybody can create a pattern which is symbolic of something mathmatical then make others go "oooh, it means something, and therefore is amazing!". If people want to convince others that crop circles are real then here's a hint, don't use the same mathmatical symbols (the decimal) humans do.
    • Sroek, on 06/19/2008, -15/+5You couldn't even draw a pattern with a pencil on a piece of paper that was 1/100000000000 the precision and mathematical complexity as that crop circle, dolt.
      • simg, on 06/19/2008, -2/+5how do you know ?
      • beezneez, on 06/19/2008, -0/+2well, you can't...
      • itzac, on 06/19/2008, -0/+2Well, given that they rounded the last digit off instead of leaving the last marker at the right place between two digits, it's not actually that accurate. Also, the height the picture was taken from makes it pretty difficult to gauge the regularity or smoothness of the edges, so how do know how "perfect" the circle really is?

        Given a compass, a ruler, and a straight edge and a few days to figure it out, I could probably draw this on paper and make a plan for making the circle.
    • TSK05, on 06/19/2008, -0/+4Yes, you can. The only part where accuracy is required is to make all the triangles the same size and that's it.
    • qTrainer, on 06/19/2008, -1/+6
      The answer should be fairly obvious as far as the decimal and that is that they learned about the existance of decimals and the value of Pi from us... um, after they traveled at light speed to get here. :-)
    • rykukatei, on 06/19/2008, -1/+1well if you use different mathematical that we don't use...how are we going to find out what it means...but i like your arguement here...it could possibly be fake, but then at the same time it could be real, just they're trying to show similarities...
    • rationalist, on 06/19/2008, -2/+1The ironic thing is that most crop circle makers are quite open about their work, and, as you probably know, the original folks who started the whole thing have tried their best to debunk the tin-foil aspects, even going so far as to sign their work - but people whose worldview is built from irrational beliefs, wishful thinking and emotional responses, seem pretty immune to even the strongest evidence. It is no different than Creationists or climate change deniers - no amount of reality will shake their beliefs in a nicer fantasy.

      Circlemakers have a website
      http://www.circlemakers.org/
      where they publish their latest designs, often putting blueprints up before creating the circles. It is a kind of public artform, like graffiti, and the artists openly mock the superstitious rubes who insist their artwork was created by aliens.

      Circlemakers have actually taken leading conspiracy theorists out in the field with them and showed them how they create the circles - but the nuts just respond by making crap up about radiation and physical anomalies, which many gullible diggers here are citing as if they were truth.

      There are even sites now claiming that the original group of circle-makers have been brainwashed by aliens and are doing their bidding to "hide the Truth".

      Too bad, really, because it is quite beautiful and innovative as a product of human imagination alone, no Martian bug-lords needed.
      • gbv23, on 06/19/2008, -0/+2Exactly my point-----artists don't always see the deeper truths that are transmitted through their work.

        I do wish folks would stop insisting that the "believers" are pointing at ETs when its more like the "voice of nature" (which would include the rest of the universe)
      • aMammoth, on 06/19/2008, -2/+4Climate change deniers? Really?
        Climate change is real, but CO2 is a product of climate change, not the driver. There is global warming, its unstoppable, but its natural.
        Weather and climate are always going to change, but humans aren't driving it.
    • LakeFeesch, on 06/19/2008, -0/+1It would have been more telling if the radix mark was a comma or a momayyez. Then it would more plausbily be foreign to Great Brittian.
  • ArchetypeRyan, on 06/19/2008, -3/+78Is this really the most complex crop circle ever? It sounds suspiciously like something my friends in the Physics department would do while drunk on a Friday night. Go tequila!
    • BenKenobi88, on 06/19/2008, -0/+20Ya...I'm pretty sure representing numbers through tenths of a circle as you spiral out isn't that complex...sure it's hard work to get it precise in a barley field, but if this was on a piece of paper we'd go whoop-de-*****-do.
      • aMammoth, on 06/19/2008, -0/+1GPS makes it easy as crap.
        • samgab, on 06/19/2008, -0/+1Yeah. And crap is really easy. All of us can do that.
    • thedarkwolf, on 06/19/2008, -0/+22*wakes up in a field with a hangover. Looks around*

      "Man, how wasted were we last night?"
  • chicofernet, on 06/19/2008, -13/+1I for One, welcome our new rural err alien Overlords!
    yeah.
  • Zaggynl, on 06/19/2008, -15/+1Durrr circles.

    So uhh, what's so special about this one?
    • Zaggynl, on 06/19/2008, -0/+2Thanks for not explaining and burrowing :(
  • hollywoodphony, on 06/19/2008, -13/+5If only aliens were real, this would be super interesting!
    • Sroek, on 06/19/2008, -7/+5If only humans didn't assume things aren't real, they wouldn't be so blind to the truth.
    • evilpandainlove, on 06/19/2008, -2/+6what do you mean "if only aliens were real"? how would you know that they are not? I don't.
  • thumbulate, on 06/19/2008, -13/+7oh *****, where did i put my tin foil hat..?
  • Postawa, on 06/19/2008, -9/+0So what are we looking at here?
  • sitryd, on 06/19/2008, -12/+4i may be wrong on this, but it doesnt look like base 10. the inner circle for 3 goes around what appears to be 1/4 the circle before leaping to the next level/numeral, which would make it base 12.

    that being said, thats freaking awesome.
  • greenriver572, on 06/19/2008, -14/+22012
  • Ryvenn, on 06/19/2008, -13/+2That is actually probably more likely than aliens. Future... well via quantum mechanics... more like dimensional jumpers from a space time ahead of ours, coming back just to ***** around with the primitive retards of a few thousand years ago.

    Basically, this would amount to the dimensional jumpers walking up to us and saying "Look at this dumbass, it's pi! Do you know what pi is? We think not!" Kinda like how you mock somebody pointing at a clock by saying "It's a clock dumbass." instead of giving them the time...

    Just a theory of mine.
    • PaulRay, on 06/19/2008, -1/+7"What happens to us in the future? Do we become assholes or something?"


      -Marty McFly-
      • Ryvenn, on 06/19/2008, -0/+3Well, it may just be me but yeah, it seems like there's more assholes around now then when I was younger. But then maybe it's just because I know more people now than when I was younger.

        ...I want a hoverboard... :(
  • da_bradler, on 06/19/2008, -3/+7what are the three circles on the top for?
    • cmp1968, on 06/19/2008, -1/+30They designed it on a Mac.
    • hapax, on 06/19/2008, -2/+2It's the artist's signature.
    • TSK05, on 06/19/2008, -1/+18They are dots. Like pie is 3.141592653... and it continues. The three circles mean the three dots.
    • JoeRW, on 06/19/2008, -0/+5ellipsis ...
    • Shenanigans, on 06/19/2008, -0/+43If the three circles are the dots to show it continues, then why is it rounded off?
      • krnldmp, on 06/19/2008, -0/+25They ***** it up.
      • LucasVB, on 06/19/2008, -0/+11Zing!
      • lcarsdeveloper, on 06/19/2008, -0/+11That may be the most important comment in this entire thread... If this was created by aliens, do aliens round numbers off? Do they even use "..." to indicate that the number continues?
        As cool looking as it is, once you get over the alien looking design the explanation comes across as very human.
        • staffa, on 06/19/2008, -0/+2I guess it might be the most important if you actually really seriously considered it having been done by aliens.

          As the vast majority of people did not consider it being done by aliens, its just a rather trite statement.

          You also missed that it is in base 10, which is purely arbitrary on our part.

          And just to confuse you further, if there were aliens here capable of doing that crop circle, they would also know an awful lot about humans and their culture and how they do math.

          So yes, if aliens did it, they would know about rounding, how we represent ellipses and that we use base 10, cause we don't exactly keep that stuff top secret.

          BTW, if aliens did do it, they have a really odd sense of humor and are having a giant laugh at us every time they do that. My kind of aliens.

          And oh ya, aliens didn't do it you impressionable naive little ignoramus.



    • scy1192, on 06/19/2008, -7/+2maybe they represent the first "3" in "3.141592654"
      like 1...2...3...
      • ShaggyRogers, on 06/19/2008, -0/+2The article tells us to start on the inside and work out, not the other way around.
    • mikelr, on 06/19/2008, -2/+1maybe where it starts?
  • 1ncu3us, on 06/19/2008, -3/+48I like this one .. they actually put a mathematical (universal) message in it
    http://www.cropcircleresearch.com/articles/alienfa ...

    The message reads: "Beware the bearers of FALSE gifts & their BROKEN PROMISES. Much PAIN but still time. (Damaged Word). There is GOOD out there.We OPpose DECEPTION. Conduit CLOSING (BELL SOUND)"
    • whyufail, on 06/19/2008, -0/+5Definitely a cool design regardless of origin.
    • kaskarn, on 06/19/2008, -0/+8The missing word was apparently "believe". (According to the guy next who may well have no clue what he is talking about)
    • lespaul42, on 06/19/2008, -5/+3ASCII is far from universal and it is barely even mathimatical.
      • ophello, on 06/19/2008, -2/+2so you would rather have aliens use smoke signals? that isnt the point, *****. if they're smart enough to get here, they're smart enough to know our language.
        • lespaul42, on 06/25/2008, -0/+0I am almost certain I never said that it didnt make sense for aliens using ASCII... let my check the 11 words in my previous comment. Nope I was just talking about how ASCII wasn't universal and was barely mathimatical. So I guess you can't read so I feel sorry for you.
    • ophello, on 06/19/2008, -0/+5The word isnt missing. I studied the ascii for this one. there was an additional 1010 in the code, which screwed up the letter. It is the world BELIEVE. Also, the "P" in oppose is not uppercase.
      • bhny, on 06/19/2008, -0/+0The capital "P" in "OPpose" made it look like the alien's shift key got stuck.
  • username484767, on 06/19/2008, -11/+2People still believe in this bull...***** (ya that was a reference to that turrets guy and yes I know he died and yes I need to get out more...)
  • mrpleco, on 06/19/2008, -7/+49*adjusts tin-foil hat*
  • donkeySays, on 06/19/2008, -8/+2Ah! Finally I am popular. If you know what I mean.
  • Yage2006, on 06/19/2008, -14/+8/Buried stupid.
  • t0rp, on 06/19/2008, -9/+3thats all the proof i need.. there are extraterrestrials!!!
    • qTrainer, on 06/19/2008, -2/+1Why are you being dugg down... that was hilarious!



  • mrzeero, on 06/19/2008, -11/+5Someone should make one that says "Bush and Cheney are war criminals". That would be sweet.
  • thedinomeister, on 06/19/2008, -11/+5If by mind-boggling they mean "incredibly stupid and pointless", then yes...it is...very much so.
    • simg, on 06/19/2008, -0/+1i'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks that.

      also, if I was the farmer I'd pretty hacked off that some retard is damaging my crops ...
  • aleksandar, on 06/19/2008, -5/+72Firefox is far more complex.
  • identifiedlogo, on 06/19/2008, -12/+7This is too perfect to be a work of a hoxster. I want them doing this live, we give a lot of credit for street 3d artists; whoever did this deserves some sort of recognition. If they are not seeking recognition, they must be very very modest people. I saw the admission somewhere a long time ago, but it wasn't really believable. DO IT LIVE!!!
    • Gamer2k4, on 06/19/2008, -0/+1People often record themselves making a crop circle, then show the video to someone immediately after that person says, "Wow, this is too perfect to be the work of a hoaxer!" (someone like you, in fact.)

      In fact, that's why they don't show the creation live. If they did, you'd have people saying, "Well, you could do that one, but the others OBVIOUSLY are alien in origin!" With a live showing, you don't get to shatter that complete certainty that the alien enthusiasts have.
      • identifiedlogo, on 06/21/2008, -0/+1you are wrong, that's just it. NOBODY up to now claimed responsibility and proved the result. Are you kidding me, I will pay for the land and the crops, I will give them a year to come up with something even close to these crop Circe's. No cameras, nothing...NOBODY can do it. Just google Crop Circe in google video, You can watch the people who claim they did this, and some suspicious footage showing spherical objects flying on top of the crops and beneath the "crop Circe's" forming.
        • migatikon, on 06/21/2008, -0/+0What you need to ask yourself is this:

          Is it more likely that some clever, enterprising humans employed simple, reproducible methods to artistically depict human (if abstract) constructs, or that super-intelligent aliens traveled light-years using technology far beyond our capabilities to crush some plants out in the countryside.

          I know how important it is for some people to believe in the extraordinary, but in this case you should carefully examine the rationality of your thoughts. You will find that the answers to which you come regarding simple questions like 'Why crop-circles?' result in the unnecessary multiplication of entities, in this case, complex explanations. This violates the principle behind the famously misunderstood (or at least misquoted) Occam's Razor.
  • kasatie48, on 06/19/2008, -4/+33looks like a pokeball.
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