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- jollyholly, on 10/10/2007, -7/+60Guys have two brains.. one in their head and one in their pants. (One is smarter than the other.)
- AriaStar, on 10/10/2007, -11/+52I'm going to be dugg down to hell for this (because I'm a woman agreeing with this article), but from what I have seen, men do tend to be smarter, and it's not because schools are geared toward them. Schools are actually more geared toward girls these days. No amount of feminism can change that, biologically, men are supporters of families while women incubate and give birth and raise babies. Men can't get pregnant and have the babies, we do.
- moocow1452, on 10/10/2007, -4/+45Girl on the Nets! GIRL ON THE NETS!!!!!!
Evacuate! Evacuate! - AriaStar, on 10/10/2007, -2/+35Whereas we women have too much blood and must rid ourselves of the extra once a month.
So much for "intelligent" design. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -2/+33Guys have two heads, but only enough blood to use one at a time.
- AsianChopsticks, on 10/10/2007, -2/+30We are either ***** or geniuses...
Sounds about right, considering High School. - Kurse, on 10/10/2007, -2/+21"I'm a man who discovered the wheel and built the Eiffel Tower out of metal and brawn. That's what kind of man I am. You're just a woman with a small brain. With a brain a third the size of us. It's science."
- programrer, on 10/10/2007, -0/+19by survival intelligence i assume that you mean the sense to prepare and to put said buffalo meat between two pieces of bread?
- Terrk, on 10/10/2007, -4/+21God, just what the women right's activists need....
- LordofShadows, on 10/10/2007, -1/+15[insert general stereotypical male/female/digg user insult here]
- jmpeagle, on 10/10/2007, -1/+14this has been known for a long time. The variation in male intelligence has always been seen as much wider than women's. Most mentally retarded people are male and most geniuses are also male....I think they have been teaching this in most Psych 101 classes for awhile now.
- nitsnipe, on 10/10/2007, -2/+13One could argue that there have been a lot more scientists and advancements made by men during world history, and that could have been because of the dominant role men had(and still largely do). However there has been a lot of work done by women, and as all geeks should know, THE FIRST COMPUTER PROGRAMMER WAS ACTUALLY A WOMAN; Ada Byron King.
As for the matter of a more peaceful world if women ruled, it is totally bullsh1t. In Bangladesh for example, the leaders of the two main political parties were both women, and the two parties still are at each others throats (many times literally). - scotticus, on 10/10/2007, -3/+13Why are most top chefs male? It's not ability, it's will.
- MrARPA, on 11/07/2007, -1/+11Surely it's old news that there are more men at the extremes of the bell curve ?
- thebru, on 10/10/2007, -1/+10(Thanks)
- MrColdheart, on 10/10/2007, -1/+8well it goes to prove that women are the steady rock that grounds the men that love them.
...well at least for me - demizer, on 10/10/2007, -2/+9I love women.
They are so beautiful... and a pain in the ASS at the same time. Sheesh. - brandizzle, on 10/10/2007, -5/+12In my experience men tend to have the engineering/math/science intelligence that allows them to put a sharp rock on a stick to allow them to poke buffalo from far away. Women tend to have more of the surviving/common sense intelligence that allows them to know not to let the children run off a cliff.
- programrer, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7well played. well played.
you could also say that the smarter men found a way out of having to do it for themselves! - cas27, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7So it's saying that men do things the best whether it is being smart or stupid.
- brainScan, on 10/10/2007, -2/+8Actually, the real explanation for women not scoring as high as men is probably the stereotypes that you're spouting here. Numerous studies have shown that priming with negative stereotypes affects performance of numerous groups (e.g., elderly, african-americans, women) on cognitive tasks. The tasks that were used in this study were specifically the math, science, and mechanical skills that the stereotypical woman supposedly does poorly at. The aforementioned studies have also shown that exposure to positive stereotypes for the same groups actually improved performance on the same tasks to the level where there was no difference among the groups. So, if you'd quit trying to justify these unfounded stereotypes, future generations would be a lot better off for it!!!
- Windfish, on 10/10/2007, -1/+7"The subjects were tested on science, maths, English and mechanical abilities." Well, it's no wonder that there wasn't many women in the top scorers, they forgot to include ironing, washing up, and baking cakes.
- brandizzle, on 10/10/2007, -4/+10Yes. The stupid men can't do that for themselves.
- DanaG, on 10/10/2007, -0/+6> THE FIRST COMPUTER PROGRAMMER WAS ACTUALLY A WOMAN; Ada Byron King.
On the other hand, the computer was designed by a man; Charles Babbage.
Just saying. - SSCrow, on 10/10/2007, -2/+7Anchorman is one of the greatest movies I have ever seen.
too many classic moments. - daniilm, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6Men and women are different after all? No way!
- bungoman, on 10/10/2007, -1/+6Evolution doesn't "do" anything. There is no direction and no experimentation. If something happens it is only because it works and is good enough to survive. Sorry, just had to nitpick with the wording there.
- Vodka2389, on 10/10/2007, -1/+5I thought it was common knowledge...
- wafflez, on 10/10/2007, -3/+7ahaha that's what I hate. They'll look at stuff like this and not come to the conclusion that we're both EQUAL, but that women are somehow much better ;_;
- known, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4Men and women have different priorities.
- Suspected, on 10/10/2007, -0/+4That was really painful to read. I assumed at first you just went to some online school, but seeing as you think psychology is all about administrating IQ tests, I find it more likely that you're just talking out of your ass.
- inactive, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3"One of the study's authors, psychology professor Timothy Bates, said the phenomenon may have its roots in society's expectations for the sexes."
Judging from the comments, probably the most overlooked sentence FTA. This is simply about a *current* trend among adults; and there are far too many uncontrolled variables to start saying that it corroborates evolutionary explanations/theories, or that there is some sort of biological "inherent" difference between the sexes. Until there is some study conducted in the context of a wholly gender-free society (which doesn't exist at the moment, and would be, frankly, unethical to impose on a study group, since it would necessarily involve isolating them from birth; it is an essential "forbidden experiment") and with our current, limited knowledge of how the physiological structure brain produces psychological structure of the mind (which is were intelligence is expressed and percieved); then we can truly say extremely little about biologically based differences between the intelligence, mental aptitude, or emotional proclivities, of the the two sexes. - inactive, on 10/10/2007, -4/+7My wife stays in the kitchen at all times, if I catch her leaving the premise even once I will divorce her. I have built a bed and toilet facilities in there so no reason for her to leave.
- LordofShadows, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I know plenty of hot math, cs, and engineering majors who would disagree with you. You can say women arent as interested in those areas, (look at any universities demographic/degree breakdown) but to say they dont excel will just piss them off and perpetuate this stereotype.
- Jozer99, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3Don't forget they only have 45 chromosomes!
- pardimate, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I have noticed that school is based more on coursework than exams, which is unfortunate for me. Even though I am a female, I tend to enjoy just taking tests more than hours of tedious and redundant homework assignments.
- BlackCow, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I have noticed, being a junior in high school, that women tend to make the honor roll much more than guys yet I know some brilliant males who don't (because they are focused in their specific interests, with my friends mainly math, and not others). I, a guy, am also the same way.
I think a good portion of it has to do with cultural influence more than genetic. - offwithyourtv, on 10/10/2007, -0/+3I'm a woman, and many of the smartest people I know, people that I look up to, are men. Many of the stupidest people I've met are also men. It makes sense to me. Men just have a wider bell curve than women when measuring intelligence. This doesn't change the fact that really smart people, regardless of sex, are still a minority, and that's the part that I think is unfortunate.
- merikari, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Disclaimer: I'm a man. Probably true that there are more men in the top 2%, but this is a typical example of bad use of statistics. Most new students in universities are female, so it's not just the bottom 2 percent that is skewed in favor of the female sex. The divide must be above the average IQ and in favor of women. A much more interesting comparison would be to see what percentage of the male population is in the category of "higher than average" IQ. Judging from the enrollment statistics, I would say it's probably around 40% Would be an interesting hypothesis to test.
- tmlee, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3This is the same statement that Larry Summers made which got him fired.
- penchant, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2Hey rootneg:
This study is a little ridiculous, and is only being sensationalized because it adheres to gender stereotypes.
There have been some interesting studies on male and female brains, for example: males are lateral, while women tend to use both sides of their brain for the same task. It's been proven that men are better at spatial rotation (rotating an object in the mind) and hitting a target (hunters, any one?), however, women are better at spatial location, patterns, and memory (farming, kids?).
I'd also like to know when this study was conducted; specific cognitive abilities drop the week before a woman's period (while other mental abilities are "enhanced") due to high levels of estradiol and progesterone, and men's mental capabilities drop in the fall when their testosterone is at an all time high. (Check out Kimura & Hampson's study: also incorporates existing research)
You're right, no one here noticed that sentence. The way we raise our children has predisposed women to not want a job in mathematics, (and even now, when I was in high school, it was weird that I was in AP Calculus). Science tends to be male dominated, and even today women doctors, scientists, researchers are not viewed as credible as men. Hell, even right now I am super nervous about posting because this is predominately a male site and I'll be honest, I hate the backlash. Men are encouraged with sports (and now video games) giving them a head start at the idea of "problem solving". Etc.
There's a great BBC series you should check out, made in 1997. There are 6 parts: Separate but equal, language of the sexes, patterns of love, passages of life, the maternal dilemma, the gender wars. - neuropsychguy, on 10/10/2007, -1/+3I seriously have been saying this for years. I used to have discussions about it with friends in high school. These discussions spurred my interest in intelligence and intelligence testing and are partly why I entered the field I did (psychology). Now that I give IQ tests to people as part of my grad school training, my experiences testing kids confirm my old hypothesis - I see a lot more boys with limited IQ than girls (we don't get too many kids in who have really high IQs).
- LordofShadows, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2"women are discouraged from behaving like they are smart"
Are they? - drewhenson, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4No, just simpler.
- qwertydvorak, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2even animals don't ***** where they eat
- gradeahonky, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4It certainly makes sense to me. Evolution has more room to experiment with guys because it can afford to lose a lot of guys. It'll jumble up our hormones and brain structures and have a bunch of casualties along the way, but the one awesome guy it produces will impregnate all the women and build himself a kick ass tree fort and invent a wall to keep all the riff-raff out. If a woman dies, on the other hand, the population loses all her potential children. So it has to play it safe with women, no ridiculous experiments.
So, ironically, women are the more stable of the two sexes in an evolutionary sense. - Kamill85, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2I get it too from time to time.
- avgbody, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2The thing is, girls have always done better in elementary school, for several reasons. It's simple math, science, English, etc... It's not until jr. high and high school that boys start catching up to the girls. Heck, I didn't start trying until High School, and didn't exceed past the majority of the students until college. I was basically a D student in elementary and a B+ student in high school, and a A student in college.
I also think, at that young age, what boy would want to stay in a classroom for hours. Ask any boy what his favorite class is, while in elementary, and I would bet they say "Gym" class. In high school, I think the favorite class was more spread out among the academic.
One of my favorite elementary schools that I have ever been to was in California, where they had 3 recesses. 1 in the morning, 1 in the afternoon, and 1 at lunch. I was only stuck in class at most 3 hours at a time. - spyd3rweb, on 10/10/2007, -0/+2pooing in the kitchen isnt gross at all.
- tehbored, on 10/10/2007, -2/+4Well, this certainly clears up a thing or two!
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