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- Devine122, on 05/03/2009, -0/+20I can exercise self-control whenever I want to. See, I won't even submit this comment.
- dafragsta, on 05/03/2009, -0/+10and no one will care because people will just say this is another excuse proposed by modern society for lazy and undisciplined people.
Believe me, I don't buy that criticism. Some people think everyone has the same level of discipline and some people just actively choose not to exercise it. Mental willpower will only get you so far; the rest is genetics and biology. I have all the big ideas and drive in the world, but none of the self control to bring it all together, but I've really focused hard the past 5 or so years on trying to nail down what makes me such a flake and simultaneously so principled and driven when the two are not in any way compatible and ultimately lead to a lot of self loathing.
I haven't come up with any other solution either, except that my brain is broken, but I'd like to think there has been progress otherwise, arguable as that may be. ;) - nwoantibody, on 05/03/2009, -0/+9my eating and fappin center went bust back in y2k
- Killbot2015, on 05/03/2009, -1/+7And so the social stigma of how science will never be able to explain the human brain is peeled back further.
- cl2yp71c, on 05/03/2009, -0/+5Really?
Well, they sure as hell weren't in my penis. - Khast, on 05/03/2009, -0/+5I don't think mine ever worked....too bad my warranty expired about 34 years ago. :P
- LucasHenderson, on 05/03/2009, -0/+4This is interesting. Now come up with a pill I can take to improve my self control, and I'll be happy.
- jabela, on 05/03/2009, -1/+5Now if we could just make it into an injection, I could use it to encourage self-control in class and all the students would hand in their homework, complete their coursework and revise for their exams... I can dream, can't I?
- dougfunny, on 05/03/2009, -0/+3They did not take into account the education of the participants. Someone who doesn't know that sugar is bad is, of course, going to eat sugary foods. And someone who knows all about eating healthy will eat the healthy stuff. This whole experiment is worthless.
- geefull, on 05/03/2009, -0/+3Well the premise falls down because they make no reference to self control in other areas of life.
It does not follow that those who have self control issues in relation to food have no self control over other areas of their life (although lots of people assume that to be the case and make value judgements accordingly)
otherwise we would have no skinny drunks and all bad tempered people would be fat too. - Funnylink, on 05/03/2009, -0/+3Don't give them any more excuses :(
- mpn401, on 05/03/2009, -0/+2Well, that would certainly explain a lot...obviously, I never had one.
- FatherD, on 05/03/2009, -0/+2NEED BEER!
- VenDrake, on 05/03/2009, -2/+4Sounds like they found the id and the ego.
- m0llusk, on 05/03/2009, -0/+2In the article it is assumed that increased self control will be helpful, but is there evidence of this? It is possible that people who get their self control jacked up will tend to behave like obnoxious and judgemental busybodies. Even worse, we may find they now have the means to act on their true desires which might be to dominate others or lead lives of crime or simply read books all day long. Another possibility is that the ability to turn down self control could become thought of as a fun recreational activity that is essentially harmless if supervised.
- darkera, on 05/03/2009, -0/+2For SCIENCE!
- KingGorilla, on 05/03/2009, -0/+2FTA:
Hare says, it might be possible to kick the DLPFC into gear by making the health qualities of foods more salient for people, rather than asking them to make the effort to judge a food's health benefits on their own. "If we highlight the fact that ice cream is unhealthy just before we offer it," he notes, "maybe we can reduce its value in advance, give the person a head start to making a better decision." - dafragsta, on 05/04/2009, -0/+1That depends. Do you consider people with ADD or dyslexia disabled? In some way they are, but their conditions are treatable just as I think this one is as well. What it will do is raise awareness of the problem. Some people think everyone only wants to demand the easy way out.
I've learned to deal with my problems to pretty good effect, but the fact that these kinds of things aren't documented doesn't help. I honestly think a lot of my problems are helped just by watching what I eat (not eating stuff that'll make you lethargic in the middle of the day as well as getting plenty of B-complex vitamins which make you feel more energetic) and maintaining a nearly non-stop caffeine flow, which makes me feel considerably more inclined to get things done. - vertinox, on 05/04/2009, -0/+1You know. If it is true... Science could make a drug to make you non-lazy.
- tech42er, on 05/03/2009, -0/+1It's called Adderall. It increases focus and self-control. It's officially only prescribed for ADHD, but a lot of college students use it when they're studying for tests to help them focus and retain information.
I'll assume you're teaching high school. It's ironic you'd like your students to be more focused through pharmacological means since most people consider this kind of use of Adderall to be "drug abuse" and actively discourage it. High schoolers are also not under so much pressure and do not value their grades enough to want to use it.
Eventually, I predict we will see the legalization of Adderall or very similar drugs for OTC use, which will have an effect on the world not unlike that of caffeine. Until then, though, be careful what you wish for. - nyxerebos, on 05/03/2009, -0/+1but more importantly, how do we disable it in cheerleaders?
- hereticoftruth, on 05/03/2009, -0/+1Well, that is nice. I found out years ago that those who drool have less self control than those who don't.
- GraceHead, on 05/03/2009, -0/+1so easy to impair these mechanisms ...
- tech42er, on 05/03/2009, -0/+1What are the legal and philosophical implications of this? Let's say people with little self-control are disproportionately poor. Should we consider them disabled and pay for them?
- inactive, on 05/03/2009, -2/+1I would like to punch you in the stomach. Since when is awareness(you call it education) enough to stop people from doing that which is unhealthy/unsafe/illegal/insert detrimental act here?
You theory is weak my friend. Why an arbitrary substance like sugar? What about broccoli? Would I eat broccoli if I didn't know it was good for me?
People eat sugar because it tastes good to them. Not because they have no impulse control. If something tastes good to an individual, they will eat it. It's nutritional value is a by product. Some people will eat foods based solely on it's nutritional value. That, however, is not even close to an impulse decision. It's the exact opposite.
I'm going to stop now. Considering how simple your response was, I'm sure this is a waste of time.
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