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- Grub, on 10/12/2007, -10/+148im not embarrassed for my state (calif), mines one of the green. Hell, they taught me evolution in my catholic school
- misterpony, on 10/12/2007, -16/+127Oh, I'm so embarrassed for my state.
- cptn_cardboard, on 10/12/2007, -3/+94In my state (washington) my highschool bioligy teacher taught evolution with the same awkwardness as sex ed
- JCSaint, on 10/12/2007, -7/+60You keep making wisecracks like that and we'll make you the 51st state... =P
- fulldecent, on 10/12/2007, -27/+73dumb ***** people
- slave25637, on 10/12/2007, -22/+66my Illinois taught evolution was pretty good...it solidified my atheism....
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+47@dabrainiac
In the first place, you seem to be confused about what evolution actually is. Humans share a common ancestor with extant fish and that common ancestor was certainly fish-like, but it's not like a fish ever gave birth to a human. Evolution on such a scale occurs over eons, as one population is succeeded by another. Each succeeding population may differ only slightly from the immediate ancestor population, but these changes can add up to the point where population(n) and population(n + 1e6) may be quite different.
Secondly, your argument is basically an appeal to incredulity. Suppose a storkist said, "look at your body and all it's (sic) complexities and everything we ourselves won't ever understand and tell me we were all once a single-celled zygote." Would you be inclined to toss out developmental biology since it's just too incredible to believe that we ever came from a single cell? Of course not, for the evidence is clear. The evidence for evolution and common ancestory, from the fossil record to genetics, is also quite clear. I'd recommend Dawkin's "The Ancestor's Tale" for more information on this. - tkltangent, on 10/12/2007, -2/+44Hey it's just like the red state vs. blue state thing! Except for not really at all!
- TekeeTakShak, on 10/12/2007, -2/+41How about I sum up the comments above me?
"This map is wrong." - Arkavus, on 10/12/2007, -5/+41Maybe you should actually search for some material on Evolution?
Actually I'll help you out:
http://evolution.berkeley.edu/ (especially this one)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Evolution - kronix2, on 10/12/2007, -9/+43"Why are creationists so closed minded?"
Because they're held to ransom by the fear induced by their religion. Rejecting evidence, logic and reason is a lot easier than admitting to yourself that your religion is catastrophically wrong. - JoeRandom, on 10/12/2007, -6/+39Some states are listed as 'Satisfactory/ good' but have comments such as 'human evolution ignored'. I wouldn't call that satisfactory. If you make those 5 states red. It turns a tragic picture into a dire picture, where half of the US doesn't get taught evolution.
- coollettuce, on 10/12/2007, -11/+42Why are creationists so closed minded?
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -6/+36I live in Florida, and they taught Evolution in my school. This map says "treatment of evolution.... pointless."
- jcapogna, on 10/12/2007, -7/+37The lack of evolution in schools makes baby Jesus cry.
- NikoKun, on 10/12/2007, -5/+33Freaking embarrassing, I can't believe my state is Red...
I wish I knew as much as I know now, back when I was in high school... I would soo ask more questions and challenge the teacher's knowledge/beliefs... XD - techmonkey4u, on 10/12/2007, -2/+30The fact that you don't understand it or don't want to understand it or it's "too complex" or you don't find it intuitive enough has no bearing on the possibility/probability that evolution exists.
We don't understand the complicated inner workings of the brain, but we don't claim there's a magic mouse on a wheel in there in the face of observational evidence to the contrary because it would be an easier explanation. - sdrawkcaB, on 10/12/2007, -4/+32I'm wondering about Canada, I've yet to have any teacher try and teach anything except evolution and science. The bibles and religions are checked at the door. Actually a few of my teachers have been very verbal in their evolutionist beliefs, which is great. I had no idea how widespread teaching alternatives to evolution were!
- biggychong, on 10/12/2007, -1/+28Remember, if you never try you will never fail!
- biggychong, on 10/12/2007, -5/+31@kmk2006
You know that answersingenesis is just a marketing tool and platform for Ken Ham to hock his god awful books right? I mean, they don't even bother to peer review their work, at least by accredited scientist, anyways. - kronix2, on 10/12/2007, -4/+29"@coollettuce: Why are evolutionists so closed minded?"
You're accusing people who don't believe that the world was created in 6 days of being close minded? Creationists really don't understand how absurd their beliefs are outside their own communities. - treelovinhippie, on 10/12/2007, -4/+26The fact that there is even an argument between ID and Evolution is an absolute embarrassment to human intelligence!
These ID people are obviously illiterate, have no understanding of science and the scientific process, and I for one am horrified to think that they are propagating their DNA and thus evolving our species further into the depths of irrationality and stupidity. - TexMurphy, on 10/12/2007, -5/+27This may be the only time in my life I say this.
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Thank God I was raised in California. - cankillar, on 10/12/2007, -3/+23Explain how light can come from stars ten billion light years away when the Earth and the universe is 6000 years old.
@kmk2006
Evolutionists like facts. If you can provide us with non-anecdotal evidence creationism is true then we'll listen. - inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+21This is totally inaccurate. I live in Ohio, and my entire school district, Columbus Public, the largest public district in the state, teaches evolution thoroughly, and there are no creationist teachings. Whoever made that map is misinformed.
- AKBryant54, on 10/12/2007, -5/+24Yeah, i don't think this map is very accurate, we've been taught evolution here in Alaska, i've never been taught any form of creationism or other garbage...
- conman16x, on 10/12/2007, -2/+18Wow, I went to public school for 12 years in Maine and I seem to remember learning about evolution quite extensively. I even did a big project about Charles Darwin. I guess I just lived in a good district.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+15@gyrnmnix: A "Teach the controversy argument". Sorry but what else is there to teach? Evolution is reality. There is no other competing scientific theory.
Reality is not a democracy. Science is not a democracy. Science describes reality and is based on evidence. Just because 'evolution isn't the answer for some people' does not make other arguments true. Would it be right to teach your children the flat earth theory? What about the theory that the sun orbits Earth?
Why is Evolution ridiculous? I'm just curious. - victorguttmann, on 10/12/2007, -5/+18Yea Iowa!!! Keeping it real with having no standard! Booya!
- kronix2, on 10/12/2007, -2/+15The creationists above don't understand that evolution is a scientific theory, accepted by 99% of experts (i.e. evolutionary biologists), supported by empirical evidence, and verifiable by making predictions and carrying out experiments. We know evolution HAPPENED because we can compare fossils and examine their structure and DNA. We know evolution HAPPENS because we can observe viruses and bacteria rapidly evolving under a microscope. We can also compare the DNA of ourselves and our ancestors and chart the mutations and adaptations which have resulted in differences.
It's like when you're trying to convince a creationist that Darwin DIDN'T claim that humans are descended from chimps. It doesn't matter how much science you throw at them, they'll still respond with "But...I'm not a monkey! Evolution is false!". At the other end of the scale, you get creationists who argue that evolution violates the second law of thermodynamics. It doesn't matter if you explain to them that entropy isn't uniform across the universe, they'll still respond with "But...evolution violates the second law of thermodynamics!".
What I'm trying to say is that once they sniff a scintilla of "evidence" to back up their claim, they'll cling on to it as if their life depended on it. On some level, they know they're wrong, but their faith spurs them on. Take a look at the "Intelligent Design" movement and you'll see how disingenuous and untrustworthy creationists can become. They'll do anything and everything to prevent children from being exposed to knowledge which contradicts their scripture.
And that is the crux of the issue. Scientists are only interested in discovering truth, and will modify and discard past theories based on new evidence or theories. Creationists are only interested in reinforcing their own faith, irrespective of the mountain of evidence which contradicts their faith. Would you trust a physics book written in 500 AD? No. Then why the hell would you trust the Bible? It's not even peer-reviewed. - Koopa, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14@smartas007
"stop letting the government brainwash your kids into mindless, obedient, office / factory slaves whose only political color pallette includes the colors red and blue.
home school your kids and they'll be university fit and qualified by the time the public school moron children are taking their high school entrance exams."
Yes, and they'll also learn to be just as sociable and polite as you are.... - madmage, on 10/12/2007, -10/+22Sorry for comment abuse, but I had to digg this story as inacurate.
I live in North Carolina, a widely cited "Red" state, and my state has the best standard of teaching evolution according to the map.
Important "Blue" states like New York and Wisconsin are yellow.
The description is just poor. - caliguy, on 10/12/2007, -6/+18I'm surprised creationists don't believe in evolution....after all, they voted a monkey into office !!
- OUChevelleSS, on 10/12/2007, -2/+14Ironic in this context!
- aks123, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12That is NOT, I repeat, NOT evolution. That is a hypothesis for the origin of life. Scientists acknowledge that they don't know how life began. However, scientists have been able to synthesize organic compounds in the laboratory. If you understand biology, you'll know that simple organic compounds make us who we are. A single CELL, a couple micrometers across, makes us who we are (you came from a little blob that resulted from the union of egg and sperm). Read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miller-Urey_experiment
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+12Evolution has been proven by multiple observations and studies. The contention is natural selection and speciation. Your so called human footprints was actually a kind of small dinosaur and not human. You are one sad uneducated person. I guess you believe that Atlantis is buried under Antarctica huh?
- ChumpChief, on 10/12/2007, -3/+14More like east vs west than red vs blue, seeing as how most of the midwest gets satisfactory while the southeast usually fails -- although both went red.
Of course, the Carolinas rock regardless of their neighbors ;-) - aks123, on 10/12/2007, -2/+13There is also no proof that your great grandma existed. The pictures aren't enough. I want REAL proof!
- cbreaker, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic."
Arthur C. Clarke, "Profiles of The Future", 1961 (Clarke's third law)
Try to convince me that your definition of Creationism is any different from Magic. - marvy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11Here's the thing I don't get about creationists: Why do they believe in an inferior God, who decided one day: "Hey, I'll build a little world with people on it!" Well, I'll tell ya something. I believe in God, but MY God did much more than that. He/She created the whole universe, which incorporates all physical and chemical phenomenom, such as molecule structures, planets and galaxies. It was so delicately designed that it allowed for processes like evolution to take place. It even allowed for species to evolve that would one day bring forth a certain Charles Darwin, who would discover this process of evolution. Now, are you trying to tell me that ain't one hell of a mighty God? Sure beats that lame image of some dude sitting in the clouds sparking up Adam and Eve. I think my God was much more creative than yours! :)
- somnambulator, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11Where the hell are you getting this stuff from?
Please post a link so we can all see for ourselves.
Or is this another case of "I want to believe so badly, I'll just fudge history a bit to make all them atheists sit up and take notice!" - Hayaemsay, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12Why am I not suprised?
- somnambulator, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Sorry there are no answers in Genesis.
Page 1 says people were made before beasts 'Genesis 1:25-27'.
And page 2 says beasts were made before people 'Genesis 2:18-19'.
If your bible plot is that shoddy I would fire the writers and get new ones. - kronix2, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10People who value science?
- bob_the_alien, on 10/12/2007, -1/+10I went to Indiana Schools which they say is good, and to Kentucky Schools which they have as horrible
but both taught evolution, and was pretty much the same, just straight out of the book.
I think this map is pretty much a joke. - freetyme, on 10/12/2007, -2/+10I wouldn't say my home state Ohio, doesn't teach evolution and goes under the "useless" category. We learned about it in 8th grade, then took a break for physical science (basic basic physics), and now we're back in biology. You know teaching chemistry, physics, along with a theory of orgins isn't what I would consider "unsatisfactory" or "useless" education.
- praisethelard, on 06/06/2008, -2/+10They teach that men evolved into log cutters and women evolved into maple syrup.
- tical2756, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9I think this Doonesbury strip sums up the argument.
http://images.ucomics.com/comics/db/2006/db060702.gif - techmonkey4u, on 10/12/2007, -1/+9Yeah, who cares!? Now quit interrupting me when I'm trying to watch Ow, My Balls!
- biggychong, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8Places where evolution is not taught well are also known for wanting it out of schools, shocking.
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