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Lost Moon Landing Tapes Discovered

cosmosmagazine.com — "For years 'lost' tapes recording data from the Apollo 11 Moon landing have been stored underneath the seats of Australian physics students. Last week, up to 100 tapes, clearly marked "NASA Manned Space Center", turned up after a search in a dusty basement of a physics lecture hall at Curtin University of Technology in Perth."

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  • GregR, on 10/12/2007, -48/+11I wonder what the chances are of having these released as hi-def movies on DVD?
    • marix, on 10/12/2007, -104/+37if they were in hd you would probably be able to see the wires used to make the astronauts look "bouncy"!
    • RichyFreeway, on 10/12/2007, -1/+76Read the article. These aren't the missing video tapes. They're tapes of data recorded from the various experiments undertaken while on the moon.
    • jwyles, on 10/12/2007, -8/+11I wonder if the intergreity of the data on the tapes has help up over the years.
    • tpodr, on 10/12/2007, -1/+16@RichyFreeway,

      You are correct. I just checked with a buddy of mine, who is a data archivist at NASA. He is part of the team trying to find the tapes. He has been in contact with the Aussie folks. These are not the video tapes, but the telemetry from the experiment stations on the moon.
    • Technopope, on 10/12/2007, -3/+10@RichyFreeway

      From the article:

      "Recorded on telemetry tapes, they are said to be the best quality images of the landing (unconverted slow scan TV) yet to be seen by a public still fascinated by the early space race."
    • aximbigfan, on 10/12/2007, -14/+20"if they were in hd you would probably be able to see the wires used to make the astronauts look "bouncy"!"

      you sir are a dumbass conspiracy nut.
    • ThinkBox, on 10/12/2007, -16/+3@ aximbigfan

      Yeah! those wires were super thin!! No way HD would'a show them, you need better quality!
    • marix, on 10/12/2007, -26/+14It was a ***** joke you ass bags.
    • crlarkin, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2Good luck waving your magic wand and making it Hi Definition
    • AndySomnifac, on 10/12/2007, -9/+1@marix:

      Fight me. Seriously.
    • aximbigfan, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3"@ aximbigfan

      Yeah! those wires were super thin!! No way HD would'a show them, you need better quality!"

      and you are super stupid.
  • chronosoft, on 10/12/2007, -3/+25Haha... Of all places to lose tapes, it was lost in the land down under... (Probably between a slab of Victoria Bitters beer)
    • DuoPros, on 10/12/2007, -1/+27What are you talking about? We drink Emu Bitter in Perth.
    • dpcamp, on 10/12/2007, -25/+2if they were in hd you would probably be able to see the wires used to make the astronauts look "bouncy"!

      someone should ***** your mother.
    • Spizzat2, on 10/12/2007, -5/+8I imagine someone did ***** his mother at some point.
      Also, pretty sure this is the wrong comment to reply to.
    • archlich, on 10/12/2007, -0/+7If I remember correctly, Australia received better transmission from the moon when the states didn't... You know, because of rotation... =)
    • jiggawoot, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3That's why they put a radio telescope in the middle of a sheep paddock near a town called Parkes in New South Wales.
  • RadiantBeing, on 10/12/2007, -0/+89It is oddly appropriate that the tapes were found in Perth. Space junkies will remember that when John Glenn was orbiting the Earth, the city of Perth turned on all its lights so that he could see it from space.
  • serggrey, on 10/12/2007, -25/+4+digg
  • idiggeverything, on 10/12/2007, -26/+8Ya! I can sleep at night now!
  • Dycacian, on 10/12/2007, -16/+4What a loss this would have been if they were not found. Good Digg I was worried about these after I heard they were missing. :D
  • EvilTesdall, on 10/12/2007, -28/+6can't wait to see all the "the landing was fake because i was abused as a child" stuff thats going to come out now.

    ~Evil
    • vandread, on 10/12/2007, -4/+22No it is fake because I'm a alcoholic and the alcohol made me say its fake.
  • STKD, on 10/12/2007, -12/+51Guess they'll just have to move on to other conspiracy fantasies. I understand 9/11 is the new "in" thing for those people.
  • ABadInAlbany, on 10/12/2007, -15/+11http://www.duggmirror.com
  • snurfle, on 10/12/2007, -5/+33I was hoping that these were the VIDEO recordings!

    If the headline said "Jimmy Hoffa Found", and the article was about a picture of Hoffa, I'd be just as disappointed.

    No digg, just for the "Hey! Read me!" title.
    • Hulka, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8What he said.

      The article even says "copies of which are as rare as the 'misplaced' original video footage of the 1969 touchdown." The title implies these are the lost tapes that were found. No digg.
    • bemenaker, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I'm confused, do these have the original video footage too? If one of the three ground stations receiving it all was in Oz, then I would be guessing it is in this collection. I hope so.
  • mbrutsch, on 10/12/2007, -20/+16Of course. The Australian outback provided the ideal arid landscape for filming the alleged "moon landing". These are probably outtakes and blooper reels.
  • mccarron, on 10/12/2007, -3/+20Another copy of the tapes was found months ago in the possession of the producer of Pink Floyd's Dark Side of the Moon demo film.

    http://digg.com/space/Pink_Floyd_s_The_Dark_Side_Of_The_Moon_Produces_Missing_Apollo_11_Footage
    • ipodman715, on 10/12/2007, -3/+3It's kinda ironic. Pink Floyd's album "Dark Side of the Moon" and Apollo (moon landing).
    • archlich, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0I think that was the point...
  • valdo, on 10/12/2007, -16/+3So the movies were shot in Australia? Impossible, I could have sworn it looked like the moon.
  • Catchpen, on 10/12/2007, -1/+21Boy I'd hate to see the late fees in O'Brien's NASA library card
    • pytro, on 10/12/2007, -6/+1( O'Reilly ) - OH Boy, Lost Moon Landing Tapes Discovery , makes me wonder (duh), if it wasn't just bad information based on intelligence source.
      /sarcasm
  • billyboobs34, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7Everyone knows that there is no such thing as the Moon!
    /sarcasm
    • VAXcat, on 10/12/2007, -2/+11...That's no moon...
    • roarus, on 07/30/2008, -0/+1Oh yeah? How do you explain moon.google.com, wise guy? I can practically zoom in till I see the cheese!
  • ianhobbies, on 10/12/2007, -3/+2what are those tapes doing in oz?
  • tthomas1529, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5can't wait to see the spreadsheets on the dust count. it's like christmas morning.
  • jhaitas, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2what were the tapes doing down under?
    • theone3, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3A satellite dish in a small country town in Australia recieved the video feed of the moon landing. There's a wonderful movie about this small town with this massive satellite dish called 'the dish'. Absolutely highly recommended.
  • tg16, on 10/12/2007, -0/+9Oh cares? I'm still waiting for man to walk on the Sun!
  • rowlodge, on 10/12/2007, -1/+1they must of forgotten the video somewhere on the moon.
  • terrablebyte, on 10/12/2007, -0/+6How long will it be before they are uploaded to Youtube?
  • Boofster, on 10/12/2007, -4/+4Hey at least all those conspiracy theorists that say we never landed on the moon can shut up now.
    • CapeKid, on 10/12/2007, -3/+6Not likely, they will now say that those tapes are faked. Conspiracy theorists can never be proven wrong no matter how many facts say otherwise. They are the kings of truthiness.
    • socokoolaid, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4They will never show them tapes. If they do they will be only tiny snippets.
    • LostOnion, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Conspiracy theorists are resistant to logic and factual information. It's almost like some kind of insanity. Or perhaps greed, since there is money to made of of such baloney.
  • KungF00, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6The Article comments: "O'Brien decided to go looking for the tapes after reading about mislaid television tapes that NASA and Australian scientists are still looking for."

    The reason for this is because of the type of the tapes. The video technology was specifically developed for the moon landings. From what I understand, there are only 2 machines in existance which are cabable of playing these video tapes. The lost tapes are the actual video feeds from space. Back then the only way to "relay" live video was to point a television camera to a video monior which was displaying the feed from space. Subsequently, the quality of the footage that got recorded was much lower quality than the actual feed.

    I really hope all the lost tapes get found, as I'd love to see better quality footage of the moon landings. Hopefully they'll be found while there is still something which can play them.
    • LostOnion, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1Very interesting. I didn't know that. Doubtful many people do.
  • socokoolaid, on 10/12/2007, -16/+3Get over it, they'll never show real footage. Only the crappy faked two scenes of footage that they've been showing for years. For whatever reason. If you've seen any aired footage and didn't immediately say hey that that and that is messed up and should never be, then you're just a fool.

    I only submit one common sense point to back this up:
    Hippity-hop hippity-hop the astronaut bounces up and down. Note how he ascends just as fast as he comes to the ground.
    • raptorjb007, on 10/12/2007, -0/+8I see someone never took a basic Physics class.
      An Object given no air resistance, as is the case on the moon, when launched from the surface with velocity of "A" will return to the surface with a velocity of "A".

      In otherwords,

      When a ball is going up, it's velocity is gradually reducing (due to the Moon's gravity). So the rate of change of velocity is negative so it will have negative acceleration which is commonly called deceleration. When the ball is falling the change in velocity is positive (as the velocity will gradually increase due to earth gravity) so it is called actually acceleration.

      The acceleration of the ball going up and ball falling from down are same only the sign is different (going up is deceleration, going down is acceleration)

      At the peak velocity is zero so rate of change of velocity is also zero. Thus at the peak acceleration is zero.
    • aynrand, on 10/12/2007, -5/+2"At the peak velocity is zero so rate of change of velocity is also zero. Thus at the peak acceleration is zero."

      That doesn't make any sense.
      Let's just say, acceleration is a vector and pretty much constant at a celestial bodies surface.
    • archlich, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1The ball is under constant acceleration [of the moon], only the velocity changes. So the speed, |V| initial, is the same as final.
    • raptorjb007, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2""At the peak velocity is zero so rate of change of velocity is also zero. Thus at the peak acceleration is zero."

      That doesn't make any sense.
      Let's just say, acceleration is a vector and pretty much constant at a celestial bodies surface."

      I'm sorry missing a few commas in there. It should be

      *At the peak, velocity is zero, so the rate of change of velocity is also zero. Thus acceleration is zero.*

      The peak meaning max height of the object.
      "Rate of change of velocity" is acceleration.

      I guess I spent to much time inphysics and not enough in basic english.
    • socokoolaid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1I may have been burried but apparently I got you all thinking. I'm no physicist, but my opinion stands:

      Considering the physics of an upward thrust of jumping...falling off due to gravity, then descending under that same force...I would imagine a quick ascent then a slow, but gradually increasing descent. To put it simply the video appeared more like slow motion than what I theorize the physics of jumping with 1/6 gravity to look like.
  • mcduckov, on 10/12/2007, -1/+11Anyone else find it odd that a project as expensive as sending men to the moon could just lose a big ol chunk of research data in some dusty basement in Pirth?
    • michaelvaf, on 10/12/2007, -2/+1they probably all got seriously drunk after the project, and couldn't remember the next day...
    • theone3, on 10/12/2007, -0/+5Perth, not Pirth.

      Incidentally, Perth is the world's most isolated city.
  • jwl23, on 10/12/2007, -4/+0This is old news.
  • datagod, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1mmmmmmm.......8 track moon tapes......
  • Brocclibob, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1People say that there is nothing good in Perth, LOOKS LIKE THEY WERE WRONG. Perth is also one of the best places on earth for star gazing space watching, whatever u wanna call it.
    • theone3, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Yeah, because there's literally nothing there! When you have to resort to saying 'we can look at the sky reel good' in the middle of a city, you know there can't be anything going on.

      That said, you guys have such a great employee deficit over there I could move over and get a job as a CIO with only McDonalds on my resume!
  • sclozza, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I am from Perth and I am not suddenly thinking this place is any less of a ***** hole than it was last week.

    Not only is there nothing to do here, we lose important Apollo 11 tapes!
  • robche, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1haha wow, i go to this university and no idea this happened. Shows how much we care :D
  • socokoolaid, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Anti-Conspiracy people seem just as extreme and unreasonable as the most extreme Conspiracy theorist.
  • Hurricane, on 10/12/2007, -0/+1WRONG TAPES

    BURIED AS INACCURATE
  • atmka, on 10/12/2007, -0/+0The moon landing is totally fake.
    That's why NASA didn't care about lost "data".
  • rrwiz, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0all moon landings were fake. anybody who is curious should watch any & all films by Bart Sibrel...he has several. Especially compelling is the one where he asks astronauts to swear on a Bible. His work is hard to find these days, but if you look around, you'll find it.
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