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- quentinp, on 06/04/2009, -5/+19Because you touch yourself at night!
- WasabiBomb, on 06/05/2009, -2/+10Maybe if you'd read a book written by someone other than Ayn Rand, you'd know how stupid you sound.
- WasabiBomb, on 06/05/2009, -0/+7I'm sorry, I just had to come back and laugh at your sophomoric interpretation of our ecosystem. What a classic comment where you actually try to impress us with your lack of education.
Did you even READ the link I posted? Half of our oxygen comes from the ocean. HALF. Here's a quick experiment for you- try breathing half as often as you're currently breathing. Let's see how long you can keep that up.
And I realize you simply made a grammar misstep, but I had to chuckle at your implication that cows "eat" oxygen.
Seriously, dude- find someone else to try to impress with your "knowledge of science". My wife is a microbiologist, and I read her textbooks for FUN.
Let me guess... you're about 17 or so? That seems to be the approximate age where some kids find Ayn Rand and suddenly think they know how the Universe works. - charlie6969, on 06/04/2009, -2/+9I make jewelry and won't buy coral beads. The Reefs are in danger. There is no need to make the problem worse by buying coral anything when there are beautiful alternatives.
- jaytek13, on 06/05/2009, -1/+7I forgot the /s
- malex, on 06/05/2009, -1/+7This is akin to holding your baby's head underwater and expecting it to evolve gills.
- ozydingo, on 06/05/2009, -0/+6In addition to WasabiBomb's points which more directly address why we should be concerned about the status of oceanic systems regardless of its effect on plant life, I'd like to clarify another point.
"Plants don't need oxygen to grow. [...] You do realize that plants thrive when there is actually little oxygen."
From what did you conclude this? Have you seen studies of plant growth in oxygen-deprived environments, or are you simply extrapolating from the grade-school knowledge that plants consume CO2 and produce O2 in photosynthesis? Because--and here's a shocker--reality is often more complicated than such extrapolation would predict.
The first two studies I found--
http://www.actahort.org/members/showpdf?booknrarnr ...
http://www.springerlink.com.libproxy.mit.edu/conte ...
--contradict your assertion. Have anything to back it up? - WasabiBomb, on 06/05/2009, -1/+6Odds are, thinkb4utype, I pay more taxes than you do, considering I'm in the top 5% income bracket. The difference between you and I is that I'm adult enough to realize that taxes are necessary and that everything worth having is worth working for.
Maybe you should learn to thinkb4utype. - WasabiBomb, on 06/05/2009, -1/+6Yes, GaltShrugged- that's EXACTLY what I'm saying. All life on Earth ultimately relies on thy ocean- kill off the oceans, and everything else won't be far behind.
http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2004/06/06 ...
"Half of the world's oxygen is produced via phytoplankton photosynthesis."
The sun doesn't grow a damn thing. Plants and animals need a lot more than light to grow. I'm surprised you didn't pick this up in school. - WasabiBomb, on 06/05/2009, -2/+7Coral jewelry isn't the MAIN problem, but cutting down on the amount harvested can't hurt. Don't be an ass.
- WasabiBomb, on 06/05/2009, -4/+9You're absolutely right. And since we can't evolve to live in a world without coral reefs, we'll die, too. In other words... natural selection.
- inactive, on 06/05/2009, -0/+4Keep having more brats, you have made a wonderful world for them.
- TheMoniker, on 06/05/2009, -0/+4"And I realize you simply made a grammar misstep, but I had to chuckle at your implication that cows "eat" oxygen."
It's better if you read it: plants produce oxygen, which is consumed by humans, who in turn are eaten by cows (and that's the circle of life).
Also, Ozydingo, great find. I've just been finding out about all of the interesting connections between plants and climate as I've been reading up on vegetation modeling. It's actually a fascinating field in and of itself (a lot of it is new to me, because I've come to climate science from a physics/math background). - AmazingSteve, on 06/05/2009, -0/+4No, you're an idiot so your answer is always irrelevant.
- WasabiBomb, on 06/05/2009, -1/+5How quick do you think natural adaptation is, yojiffyskippy?
- shootnstar, on 06/04/2009, -2/+6Saw beautiful coral reefs in Tahiti and in the Caribbean. Very fortunate.
- WasabiBomb, on 06/05/2009, -2/+6Sufficiently stupid statements cannot be distinguished from sarcasm.
- malex, on 06/05/2009, -2/+6A Conservative: Someone who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.
- WasabiBomb, on 06/05/2009, -0/+4Galt, your grasp of science is... breathtaking, at least.
You say they're "supposed to die off". What does that even mean? Living organisms don't just die- something causes it. In the case of the coral reefs, that cause is Man. We're dumping pollutants into the air and the water- do you honestly think there won't be any price to pay for doing that? Where do you think those pollutants are going to go?!
And as @malex pointed out, above- evolution takes time. Time we won't have, if we kill off the oceans. The ecosystem will be devastated MUCH faster than species will adapt to the new situation- possibly irrevocably, on human timescales.
Science IS, in fact, a bitch. The free market won't save us, no matter how much you want it to. - jayhawk88, on 06/05/2009, -0/+4"adapt or die bitches"
...say the cockroaches to us as the disappearance of reefs completely devastates the ocean ecosystem, resulting in humans going Soylent Green on each other as billions starve, until finally we all suffocate because we get about 50-60% of the oxygen in our atmosphere from phytoplankton. - overtoke, on 06/05/2009, -3/+7Evolution won't do a single thing for you during extinction events like the one we are currently experiencing. The rate of change is too high.
And this is not natural selection, this is human interference. - rentdn, on 06/05/2009, -1/+4Many of you are laughing on this fact , but it's true . Indeed corals are in great danger and thats because of us . In various sources Great barrier reef is the natural wonder of our planet. I bet we are they are dieing because of divers who do not care about the nature , they just want some souvenirs. In this link http://www.dailyscubadiving.com/carusel/best-trave ... you can see the best places for coral diving , but it will be very sad to find them only on internet or to watch on NGC in next 20 years
- frostbyt, on 06/05/2009, -5/+8"Why are all the Coral Reefs Dying?"
They have not evolved to coexist with the current surroundings. In other words...natural selection. - Junkyarddawg, on 06/05/2009, -4/+7This article is *****. It's no mystery why most reefs are dying: it's due to pollution, development, and destructive fishing methods.
That's all there's to it. The few reefs which are under effective protection OR which are too remote to get trawled/dynamited/polluted by seaside hotels, are still doing as well as they always have.
As carbon dioxide levels rise and the pH of the sea correspondingly drops, the coral reefs will eventually face non-localized threats, but we're not there yet. - ozydingo, on 06/05/2009, -0/+3@Galt
So if during the cold war we decided to just let loose and set off our nukes and let the russians retaliate, the fact that we didn't adapt to the sudden nuclear explosions and resulting fallout would mean we were supposed to die off?
There's another solution--don't fire nukes at everyone.
On a less evolutionary scale, if I fire a gun at you and you die because your body can't take a bullet to the head, were you therefore "supposed" to die?
"Supposed" to happen my ass. We humans have this uncanny ability to plan ahead and consider ramifications of our actions. Nothing is "supposed" to happen, something makes it happen. And if we don't like the consequences, maybe we should, I dunno, do something about it? - inactive, on 06/05/2009, -7/+10oh we can say this for certain? lol. They last for 250 mil years, but only start dying off after humans reach the industrial revolution. no chance or an impact there?
- jayhawk88, on 06/05/2009, -0/+3Why are reefs dying? How about, because we're treating the planet like a dog treats a hydrant?
- WasabiBomb, on 06/05/2009, -4/+7How long before you realize the world doesn't revolve around your wallet?
- dwalker, on 06/05/2009, -0/+3Nothing with "adapt" to a virus that is covering the whole planet and abusing every resource in an unsustainable manner: HUMANS!
- crom85, on 06/04/2009, -2/+5I'd think that this is a very bad sign as far as the health of our oceans go.
- davestravelgear, on 06/05/2009, -2/+4As with all nature on the planet, the tiniest things can have a huge effect on everything else! If something goes wrong with the foundations of life (algae, microbes etc), it wont be long before it effects the larger more obvious creatures.............and that includes us!!
- inactive, on 06/05/2009, -0/+2"But they report the pattern is patchy, with improvements in some areas balanced by continued degradation in others. "
ok? What's your point? besides that this is an old link. - KingGorilla, on 06/05/2009, -0/+2This was the first thing I thought of...
- Ferretman, on 06/05/2009, -0/+2Yes, you need a citation.
- Bukowsky, on 06/04/2009, -0/+2Friday, 13 December, 2002
- jason210, on 06/05/2009, -0/+2did you step on them you murderer.
- inactive, on 06/05/2009, -0/+2to much freshwater being melted away from all the ice, in other words, were all completely *****
- inajeep, on 06/05/2009, -0/+1Thank you, I only wish that there weren't people in the world who thought exactly that without the /s.
- BrettFromTibet, on 06/04/2009, -2/+3Coral reefs are one of the most glorious treasures on the planet... and sadly, one of the most fragile.
- NovaPrime9, on 06/05/2009, -1/+2Yes, they are very fortunate.
- inactive, on 06/05/2009, -0/+1That is one part of a multi-pronged problem, unfortunately. Warming, overfishing, diving and pollution are the global banes of coral reefs.
- gdha, on 06/05/2009, -0/+1Um, pretty much because the world has become our place to destroy anything living but us...horrible news.
- SpacePoet, on 06/05/2009, -0/+1Oh, no it's not! There's no such thing as human pollution, it's the sun and the cosmic rays. No way can man be responsible for dumping gigatons of pollution in our oceans, it's just nature. the Earth will adapt just like it always does la la la la la la la la la !!!!
- inactive, on 06/05/2009, -0/+1Don't brag about seeing them... diving is a significant threat to reefs.
- gkyler, on 06/05/2009, -0/+1Why no mention of the crown of thorns starfish? They have killed off so much coral there are people that kill them as their full time job, possibly helping the coral recover. I'd say the coral's problem is that the predators of the crown of thorns starfish have been dying off, allowing the starfish to reproduce in vast numbers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown-of-thorns_starf ... - Ninh, on 06/04/2009, -2/+3http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/2570227. ...
- YuleLogger, on 06/05/2009, -1/+1He should have stuck with the internet and not gone on to invent global warming...
- YuleLogger, on 06/05/2009, -1/+1Planets come and planets go...
- sndream, on 06/05/2009, -3/+3Human.
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