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- SmpleJohn, on 06/15/2009, -8/+59ADHD is just a derogatory term that was created by psychiatrists who couldn't multi-task.
- dukeeeey, on 06/15/2009, -4/+53i thought they needed to be pumped full of drugs
- expertninja, on 06/15/2009, -1/+35So true. I have a veritable stash of things to occupy my hands when I'm thinking. *looks down*
- URnotheonly1, on 06/15/2009, -3/+36ADHD is my natural state, you can stop offending my civil rights and make education open to all people, not just the system approved ones.
- Sunscreen, on 06/15/2009, -4/+36I take Adderall XR for ADD. I don't think it's a real disorder, some people just have trouble concentrating. Adderall is amazing for concentration. I can write a 2000 word essay that sounds like something a NYT editor would write in less than two hours with the *****. If I didn't have Adderall, I couldn't get a hundred words in two hours. It's a miracle drug, even if the disorder isn't real. And yes, I took one today. If I didn't, I couldn't have written this comment.
- MWeather, on 06/15/2009, -0/+20Amphetamines make pretty much everyone concentrate better.
- skotski, on 06/15/2009, -1/+19Between Attention deficite Disorder and Obsessive Compulsive Behavior, we have managed to malign any deviation from the center of the bell curve. If only we could all be identical...
- SMB20, on 06/15/2009, -0/+18I'm going to quote you some day.
- Sean42, on 06/15/2009, -3/+21I bounce my legs like a *****, but it helps me relax and the practice gives me some serious speed on my foot pedals when playing drums.
ADHD FTW !!! - jaymzdean, on 06/15/2009, -0/+17Nothing like watching a kid wash down his ritalin with classic coca cola.
- Tenareth, on 06/15/2009, -2/+18@awhite2600, I have a kid with similar issues, but the school is the problem, not the kid. We had him evaluated when he was 5 and since we were in PA we were able to get a IEP from a school physiologist that pretty much said "he needs to figit, but he's very smart and motivated, keep him in sports/activities and don't stop him from figiting".
Problem solved, no drugs used. And he didn't "distract" the class because he figited, that's a lame excuse.
He's a competition Gymnast now and does very well in school. Not sure what this new thing is with not figiting, I always figited in school too and never looked at the teacher, several teachers assumed I wasn't paying attention, but after I answered several random questions about the lesson, they realized it was fine and I was LEARNING, which is all they need to accomplish. - schwab002, on 06/15/2009, -0/+15If by miracle drug, you mean speed, yes, yes indeed.
- daimposter, on 06/15/2009, -3/+18some of you on this thread are saying ADHD doesn't exist. Some of you are saying drugs are not needed. But who are you to say? Have you experienced severe ADHD? Are you a medical doctor? You get alot of the same type of answers about depression....you can just brush it off, just work out and eat healthy, etc. Wait till you get a clinical depression and see if you can 'just brush it off'.
Just like most conditions or disorders, there are different levels. You can’t make a good comparison from a mild disorder to someone with a severe disorder. It’s like comparing grapefruit and oranges.
I’ll be probably get dugg down because many of you won’t recognize ADHD as something serious but here is a quick story of my struggles. I was always one of the smartest kids in my class from grade school to High School. I picked things up easily and rarely needed to study. I was great in Math & Science but struggled somewhat in reading and literature classes. I didn’t know what was wrong with me but I just couldn’t read books. I would try and after I finish a page, I would forget what I was just reading because my mind had drifted off. It would be such a pattern that what would take some 2 or 3 hours to read a few chapters would take me probably twice as long. I graduated in my top 10 in High School on the strength of my Math & Science. I went to college for an engineering degree.
Right away, I realized that I would have to do A LOT of studying. I also realized that in high school and younger I didn’t need to study….i picked up everything during class and even in class and never brought school work home except literature books to read. I would just doodle away on my notebooks half the time but still be able to understand the classes. In college….not so easy. I couldn’t concentrate in classes that well and fell behind. I tried studying at home and at the library all the time but my concentration was never there. I would have to take breaks and catch some air outside to regroup hoping I can get back to studying and get in the zone. I procrastinated so much that it appeared the only time I could have any decent level of concentration is when I was near the deadline like cramming for a test on the night before (later I found out it was the adrenaline that improved my concentration level). I ended up struggling so much through out college that my grade suffered. I didn’t even party much in college. I suffered depression and low self esteem because I couldn’t perform well in school no matter how hard I tried.
Years go by, I’m in the working world and living on my own. I struggled to give 100% effort at work as I always seemed distracted. I was also always forgetting tasks, appointments, and to do list activities. I had trouble remembering many conversations with customers (or friends in my personal life). I lived on my own and found that I kept missing rent payments, bills and kept misplacing things like my keys. All very frustrating and causing me money with late payments. I noticed that even when I tried to read a novel or something, I just had too many problems. I would subscribe to magazines and loved them for their short articles, though I would skim any article that seemed too long (like certain Rolling Stone political articles that can stretch for many pages). I would watch tv all the time ONLY if I’m on my computer as well or else I would be to fidgety on my couch just watching TV. I could NOT clean my apartment without being on the phone or talking to a vistor.
I went to see a physiatrist for anxiety and within 3 minutes she asked, “have you ever been diagnosed with ADD”? I didn’t even know much about ADD nor did I mention anything to her about it. That was just a few months ago. She had me evaluated for ADHD (I don’t have many hyperactive traits though) and I scored really high. I’ve been put on adderall and see my therapist once every few weeks. I have improved a lot but I still think there are many more hurdles to climb.
It’s hard for me to not believe in ADD when I looked online for not only symptoms but typical characteristics of people with ADHD (non-hyperactive though) and I seemed like a perfect match. It’s hard to say drugs don’t work when they have worked for me.
I do agree that doctors/teachers/parents are too quick to label something on their kids when it might not be true. Or quick to give them drugs when their symptoms might be mild and can be treated other ways. BUT it is important to understand that not all people have mild symptoms and many do require drugs.
P.S. I work out all the time and I’m in shape so don’t tell me excerise and a diet will cure me - imikedaman, on 06/15/2009, -0/+13I was reading something similar a few weeks ago, called Low Arousal Theory:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low_arousal_theory
The general idea is that the less dopamine your brain provides for executive functioning, the more you have to rely on external stimuli to concentrate. It's why some people need to listen to music or tap their pencil when working -- according to the theory, those people have somewhat lower than normal dopamine levels.
The theory ties into ADHD by linking it to severely low levels of dopamine production, to the point where constant fidgeting, talking, tics, etc. still can't fully help when it comes to attention control. - inactive, on 06/15/2009, -1/+14yeah no *****, I don't have adhd, but our education system and style sucked for me.
- clemsontiger, on 06/15/2009, -4/+16I have ADHD and I made it through college without any special help. It is called self control.
- URnotheonly1, on 06/15/2009, -1/+12And I have succeeded as well, yet they can lay off the stigmatization, special classes, psychological drugs. What they are doing to people is wrong.
- SMB20, on 06/15/2009, -0/+10Very true. I had a teacher in high school (three years ago), that allowed those who were unable to sit still to go take a stroll in the halls (with or without her).
I saw people typically opt in for the walking date, just because she was a babe. - Sunscreen, on 06/15/2009, -4/+13I'm pretty sure amphetamine isn't a placebo. I've been on the ***** for 10 years, I know it works. Everyone who's ever done meth or speed knows it works. Adderall is methamphetamine's little brother.
- Hetman, on 06/15/2009, -4/+13Everyone always talks about how bad drugs are but never about how helpful they can be. If there was no Adderall we would have about 50% less college graduates in this country.
- AdmiralAcbar, on 06/15/2009, -0/+9That's not what he asked, Sunscreen.
- awhite2600, on 06/15/2009, -10/+18Sorry, but drugs prescribed and monitored properly DO WORK. I have a 13 year old son that was diagnosed with ADHD when he was 5. He was nearly kicked out of school because he couldn't sit still and distracted the class. I have worked very closely with his doctor to keep medication at just the right level to help him concentrate, but not turn him into a zombie. On medication, he can focus on school and gets very good grades. Without medication he can't sit still, has no focus and will literally roll around on the floor.
ADHD is a very real condition. The problem is that too many doctors (and parents) just push pills to try to fix the problem. A good doctor can work with the patient and his/her parents to use medication to help the child. - MorbenDK, on 06/15/2009, -2/+9Some have it worse than others. While you might have succeeded without help, you might also not have had as much working against you.
Also, in regards to your self control comment-- As someone with ADHD you would know that poor impulse control is one of the major possible symptoms. - bbqribs, on 06/15/2009, -5/+12ADHD does exist. It's pretty sad to see so many people saying "Oh, it's *****. It doesn't exist." I remember my parents saying that, and now I wish to god that I had stuff like Adderall when I was back in school. Sucks to be sitting in class trying to concentrate but you can't because your brain simply cannot stay on task for more than 10 seconds.
My step kid is a classic ADHD case. He went from almost all F grades and being a serious classroom disruption (the school let him fidget all he wanted and it wound up being disruptive to the entire class) to having straight A grades by going on Adderall XR. The kid (13) says that he can actually sit down and focus on classwork.
Another thing the school did was to move his PE class to first period. The kids run around like nutjobs and burn off a ton of excess energy, which also helps them to focus. Also, limiting video games has helped a lot too. No serious 'visual stimulation' 2 hours before bedtime. He can read, draw, play board games, or do any of the things that kids did before they had 24/7 Cartoon Network and flashing video games. This has also helped in many ways. No more letters from the school or conferences about how he did the work but forgot to turn it in because his brain was going at the speed of light all the time.
Personally, I think that school should be *longer* and go year round. Kids need more time during the day to run around and burn off pent up energy. Small fidget toys can be a good thing too. But yeah, ADHD isn't just a made up diagnosis. If it is, then so is autism. - YellowSnowDemon, on 06/15/2009, -1/+7FIDGET.
- dse78759, on 06/15/2009, -2/+8What happens when you take a placebo?
- Kryptenx, on 06/15/2009, -3/+8iPwnN00bs: You're nuts and have no verifiable data to support your claim. I take Adderall daily. I'm 20 and have owned my own house since I was 19. You can own a home whether you're on a stimulant or not. Long term effects are pretty negligible, check them out. If you can manage your ADHD without stimulants, cool. That doesn't mean that everyone can do the same. I may be able to manage my use of stimulants, but that doesn't mean everyone can do the same. This doesn't indicate problems with the medication, it indicates problems with the user.
- inactive, on 06/15/2009, -2/+7i agree, but I have a cousin who is completely insane without medication. there are always extremes that benefit from medication.
- Manther, on 06/15/2009, -1/+6My mom taught me at a young age to bounce my knee, and it's been helping me stay focused ever since. Sometimes it's annoying to the people I'm sitting next to, but it only takes a few seconds of me not bouncing my knee to lose all focus...
- Sunscreen, on 06/15/2009, -4/+9Why would you hate it if kids get prescription medical-grade speed?
- HueyFreeman02, on 06/15/2009, -2/+7I wish I had ADHD so I could be prescribed drugs to sell to my classmates.
Don't look at me like that, you know you would too! - inactive, on 06/15/2009, -0/+5try being Bi polar and going through the system :S
- xenuxenuts, on 06/15/2009, -1/+6It beats Pepsi any day.
- KaivenTor, on 06/15/2009, -2/+6Back when I was a kid they stuck me on Ritalin and I spent half of the second grade staring at the wall until they finally took me off the stuff. Everyone wants a kid who will sit still, follow directions, not move around, and not do silly things so today they make up conditions and treat kids with any drugs they think might work for their purposes. Nevermind that they're attuning these kids to use drugs to solve problems later on or that most of what they prescribe sucks the life and creativity right out of the patient.
- papastout, on 06/15/2009, -1/+5...I forgot what I was going to write. Curse you ritalin!
- inactive, on 06/15/2009, -1/+5It reminds me of the Beavis and Butthead episode where they were forbidden to laugh, then the teacher said that he was going to talk about sex ed today. That's right! We're gonna talk about the PENIS! We're also gonna talk about the VAGINA! So Beavis and Butthead, forbidden to laugh had to bottle all that up until class dismissed where they exploded into laughter outside the school. It seems their laughing was a necessary and normal function for them.
- inactive, on 06/15/2009, -1/+5sounds like your mom smacked your head too hard, probably repeatedly. I've seen your other comments.
- donquixotex, on 06/15/2009, -0/+4you sure you don't have RLS?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Restless_legs_syndrom ... - XtheXlanternX, on 06/15/2009, -6/+10i'm ADD and i was playing with my ***** in order to focus on reading this article
- milomilomilo, on 06/15/2009, -3/+7So you say ADD is real and than described the solution to it as being allowed to play and act wild and discipline. thats doesn't sound like a disease at all.
You couldn't concentrate for more than 10 seconds? Neither could anyone else!
These children with this so called ADD are able to concentrate on things they like, ADD is a lack of interest in certain things with a lack of discipline, and excess energy.
Just because we come up with a word to describe something doesn't make it a legitimate thing.
You have to understand the biggest problem with most psychological disorders is the the symptoms are the disease in these doctors minds.
"your child can't pay attention and have way too much energy? thats a disease, give him some meth!"
You say ADD is real and than go on to debunk it without realizing.
ADD is a product of todays society where children are mentally over stimulated and physically understimulated. - Dustmuffins, on 06/15/2009, -0/+4I understand what you're saying, however so many children (including myself as a child) were diagnosed with ADHD just for having a bit of an eccentric personality. They put me on all sorts of different drugs trying to get me to be "normal". As I got off that stuff as I got into my teens, I just came to accept my personality as it was. Sure, I'm a bit funny, but in the end it made no difference. These days I'm still as normal as can be. I'm just distracted easily and like to run around a lot.
- inactive, on 06/15/2009, -1/+4Hey well... no *****.
- lolmax, on 06/16/2009, -0/+3It looks like Sunscreen couldnt concentrate on the question at hand, even on Adderall. I guess he does have ADD?
- lolmax, on 06/16/2009, -0/+3Amphetamine is a helluva drug
- RyanXmetal, on 06/15/2009, -1/+4I started taking Ritalin when I was 5 in order to stop violent mood swings, incredible oppositional defiance disorder, and lack of attention span / short term memory.
I took it until I was about 14/15, and I was able to focus on my own, finding my own methods to remember things.
I'm a 19 year old college junior with a full tuition scholarship for computer science / computer forensics, and I'm working as a Database Support Intern at a small company.
I didn't take Ritalin as a crutch, I took it in order to get myself back on track until I could find my own methods to remember things and pay attention.
Call me retarded...but it works. I'll agree there is a problem with doctor's using Ritalin as an easy way out, but just because of that you can't say "ADHD isn't real". It is real, kids have it, medicine helps. - HueyFreeman02, on 06/15/2009, -1/+4I'm going to move to Florida, and get medicinal weed for my asthma. Then I'll try yours. Best of both worlds.
- MacParrot, on 06/15/2009, -1/+4Just give him a placebo and a couple of cups of Mountain Dew
- DreKor, on 06/15/2009, -0/+3I think that points to a failing of the colleges, not to the wonders of Adderall. But, if you have to work in the current system, it's a life saver.
- eSentrik, on 06/15/2009, -0/+3Things I do when in deep thought: chew pen, tap pen on something, crack knuckles/back/neck, bounce leg up and down, run fingers through hair, frequently adjust myself...*****, do I have ADHD?
- Lonandubh, on 06/15/2009, -1/+4I have to agree with Morben here. I got through HS & Undergrad just fine, but i needed something else for grad school.
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