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- seltaeb4, on 11/11/2009, -25/+475Yet another parallel between Fundamentalist Christianity and Fundamentalist Islam.
- goodthinkin, on 11/11/2009, -4/+339Think we could get Fox News to report:
Sarah Palin Agrees With Fundamentalist Islam - clock7, on 11/11/2009, -27/+279something like 50% of americans believe in creationism, thats even a bigger problem.
- novenator, on 11/11/2009, -21/+262FTA - "Americans familiar with the long and bitter battle over the teaching of evolution in our schools likely have a set of images of what creationism looks like...But there is another creationist movement whose influence is growing, and which is fueling challenges to science in countries where Christianity has little sway: Islamic creationism."
Science is science, and regardless of where you are born, religious interpretation or spin should be left out of the equation. It doesn't do anybody any good.
*note- byline should read Arabic-VERSION of Al Jazeera’s website. My mistake. - SpeedSteamBoat, on 11/11/2009, -29/+220Religion has a lot of problems.
- Necoras, on 11/11/2009, -2/+155Is there a reason you linked to Richard Dawkins' site instead of the original article?
http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/ideas/articles/2 ...
'Cause Dawkins' site is crashing. - bigp3rm, on 11/11/2009, -53/+189Islam has a lot of problems.
- pintomp3, on 11/11/2009, -18/+130The Talibangelicals continue to deny the similarities.
- EarlOfLade, on 11/11/2009, -28/+118Well, christians, muslims and jews all worship the same fantasy figure, a god I like to call GAY (God/Allah/Yaweh)
Of course there will be much of the same nonsense.
- reticulate, on 11/11/2009, -6/+91Creationism is a hotly debated subject in the scientific community?
Not from what I've heard. More like derided as the pseudoscience that it is. - nyxerebos, on 11/11/2009, -2/+84...but a chimp aint one?
- reticulate, on 11/11/2009, -2/+78Sarah Palin (D) Agrees With Fundamentalist Islam
FTFY - LittleDas, on 11/11/2009, -5/+76I'm not surprised they made this mistake. Fundamentalists are not typically concerned with good science.
- Expl0siv0, on 11/11/2009, -0/+64I'm not saying that SARAH PALIN is an ISLAMIC EXTREMIST. I'm just saying that she happens to agree with them on this disbelief in evolution. If she agrees with them on that, what else could she agree with them on? Does SARAH PALIN SUPPORT TERRORISM? Why won't she deny it?
- ShingoEX, on 11/11/2009, -9/+70"which refutes the longstanding assumption that humans evolved from monkeys.”
No...the theory involved evolution from apes, not monkeys. I'm surprised they made this mistake. Chimps are not monkeys. - solecize, on 11/11/2009, -8/+65Finally- Christians and Muslims can get along.
- LaughingMan11, on 11/11/2009, -1/+57Your comment was complete and utter nonsense.
" but all too often it is the interpretation of the evidence which is still theory that has been misinterpreted. "
You're claiming that evolution is just "still theory" so we shouldn't take it seriously? Are you one of those Creationists who claim that since the scientific community calls it a theory that the "jury is still out?"
Scientific theory isn't like "theory" in the vernacular. Scientific theory means a broad consensus and overwhelming evidence in support of a model. That is what evolution is. It isn't something someone dreamed up that has no proof behind it... which is what Creationists believe. - TheMAZZTer, on 11/11/2009, -2/+57No, the theory is that apes and humans evolved from a common ancestor.
- LaughingMan11, on 11/11/2009, -3/+56What's disturbing about this article though, is that while we have a fringe in the West that is trying to push their faith as (fake) science by labeling it "creation science" or "intelligent design" in the Muslim world, this view is mainstream.
Put it in other words, if the fundamentalist creationists in the US had their way, our society and our view of science would more resemble the Islamic world of today. - EarlOfLade, on 11/11/2009, -16/+69Religion is once again the problem.
When you follow religion which tells you their magic book has all the answers and that science is the work of the devil and insist you trust a bunch of nomadic desert dwelling goat herder and camel drivers superstition over reality, you get this nonsense called creationism. It's nonsense because it's only religious ramblings and does nothing to explain reality.
What is wrong with living in reality and the 21st century, people? - EvilJelloMan, on 11/11/2009, -3/+54If you havin fossil problems I feel bad for you son?
- Coven, on 11/11/2009, -1/+51"the fraudulent, debunked Lucy?"
yeah I'm going to need a source on that - jiggawatt, on 11/11/2009, -2/+52"scientific evidence that might otherwise reinforce the biblical understanding of the hotly debated topics within the scientific community."
Confused person is confused - Wuzizname, on 11/11/2009, -5/+53It took the catholic church 350 years to apologize to Galileo... tell this Darwin guy to chill the f* out and wait his turn.
- catalysis, on 11/11/2009, -3/+50Science isn't something you believe in. That's why creationism is not science.
- LokitheComplex, on 11/11/2009, -2/+48Hope is not truth.
- covertbadger, on 11/11/2009, -2/+46Instead of worrying about what happens 25 years from now, why don't you consider the fact that so-called 'macro' evolution has been observed and documented both in the wild and in controlled laboratory conditions?
- jammerml, on 11/11/2009, -5/+49I think I liked the internet better before we made it so easy that the Luddites could use it to spread their religious dogma.
- PowderedToasty, on 11/11/2009, -1/+45I'm not sure if you know this David, but the validity of evolution is not hinged on anyone finding a "missing link".
- hauntedchippy, on 11/11/2009, -6/+50The human capacity for idiocy knows no limits
- carbonetc, on 11/11/2009, -2/+45Are you aware of how much science one must ignore in order to hold the position you hold?
- Rudegar, on 11/11/2009, -6/+48you don't know much about science if you think they have that agenda and got means to push unscientific agendas
- Coven, on 11/11/2009, -1/+40still need a source David. none of that is a linked, verifiable source
and please don't link to "answersingenesis" or anything of the sort.
peer review. it helps. - Zarokima, on 11/11/2009, -1/+38No, chimps are our closest relatives, diverging only at the genus level. We are *****, they are Pan (plus the species, of course -- we have only one living and they have two).
- sizzzzlerz, on 11/11/2009, -5/+42Actually, no, the world doesn't suck without believing in a sky pixie. Not having a god-saturated mind is quite pleasant. Try it sometimes.
- cleantoe, on 11/11/2009, -16/+52I'm a Muslim and I believe in both Creationism and Evolution. How? Well in Islam, despite the fundamentalists, it doesn't say in the Quran that there ISN'T evolution. It has a creation story, and says this and that, but there is NOTHING in the Quran that contradicts the theory of evolution.
I personally believe that God sparked the creation of everything and just let life run its course starting at the very beginning. That way I can have my cake and eat it too. - JigoroKano, on 11/11/2009, -4/+4099 Attributes of Allah, but a Chimp ain't one.
- LittleDas, on 11/11/2009, -4/+40It should be telling to anyone who is on the fence about evolution that the opponents of the theory, almost without exception, have an emotional investment in the outcome through their religion.
- Coven, on 11/11/2009, -1/+35I've already found something that debunked your #3, so don't even bother sourcing that one:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/knee-joint.html
Note all the sources linked within the article. - DukeOnkled, on 11/11/2009, -4/+38Power itself doesn't corrupt. Power attracts corruption. There are great religious thinkers, like St. Thomas Aquainas, and then there is Jerry Falwell, The Discovery Institute, cults like scientology, etc. and everybody else that takes advantage of whole populations of otherwise wondering, open minds.
/atheist - covertbadger, on 11/11/2009, -2/+35@DavidNiven
No, it doesn't. Are you being intentionally stupid, or does it come so naturally you don't even realise you're doing it? - Nicoon, on 11/11/2009, -1/+34Name one problem with Darwin's theory, I dare you. Furthermore, the theory does not concern itself with abiogenesis, as that's a whole different topic.
"Sorry but you cannot get organic from inorganic."
Sorry, but you can. Theyr'e called Amino Acids and have been created in labs countless of times. Most notably in the Miller-Urey experiment back in '53. - CaptainNoPants, on 11/11/2009, -3/+36The number needs to have its head examined.
- Moralogic, on 11/11/2009, -3/+35There is no evidence that reinforced the biblical understanding. The Digg communities likes facts and logic, something you don't really understand.
- notthatnoise, on 11/11/2009, -3/+35@DavidNiven: as someone who knows a lot of scientists, i can tell you clearly don't
- detcade, on 11/11/2009, -2/+33There ya go, only believe when it's convenient.
- seltaeb4, on 11/11/2009, -2/+33Scientists do not have "a large historical tendency to push their efforts in direct opposition to various religions."
They're led to their conclusions by facts.
What is the Fundamentalists' excuse for pushing their efforts in direct opposition to all known science? - joshmoney, on 11/11/2009, -0/+31Which scientific community? Last major study found that something like 99% of scientist accepted the theory of evolution. Even most major Christian scientist accept it (Ken Miller, Francis Collins, Simon Conway.) There are debates as to the different models of evolution but as for it's acceptance as a theory there is no debate! The idea that there's some "big controversy" surrounding it is a ABSOLUTE ***** LIE from fringe creationist. Where do you get your information man??? I don't mean it as an insult but seriously, do just a few minutes of research outside of your bubble.
/former creationist - GamerXR72, on 11/11/2009, -1/+31I've got to throw in with LaughinMan on this.
It really bothers me when people see the word theory and figure "oh well its just a guess". Scientific Method, ***** read it. - PenguinGuy3331, on 11/11/2009, -1/+30What you are referring to is what is explained with Abiogenisis, not Evolution. Evolution is the process through which life has changed since it appeared, and thus it does not try to explain why it arrived in the first place. Complaining that evolution does not explain the original development of life is like complaining that the current theory of gravity doesn't explain the movement of electrons, even though it isn't supposed to since at that scale gravitational forces are tiny and a different set of primary forces dictate the motion of the electron. The same is true for the first development of life: natural selection could not begin until we already had something that could be defined as "life", and so evolution makes no assumptions on how life came to be, only about how it has changed once it arrived. While Darwin may have posited that everything came from a single cell, it had nothing to do with his theory of evolution, and it is also folly to believe that evolution has not changed since Darwin's original, as each generation of scientists builds modifies it and builds upon it much as Darwin built upon the framework developed by those that came before him, so that if there are current problems with the theory they can be worked out with time. Thus is the nature and beauty of science.
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