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Humans 'learnt to gamble from chimps'
telegraph.co.uk — Chimps were found to be more likely to take risks in seeking food than bonobos, their endangered close relative found in the Congo...results suggest that species-specific feeding ecologies can strongly influence risk preferences.
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- petsheep, on 03/27/2008, -0/+10just for info bonobos: "until recently usually called the Pygmy Chimpanzee...The Bonobo is endangered, and is found in the wild only in the Democratic Republic of Congo. Along with the Common Chimpanzee, the Bonobo is the closest relative to Humans.(Wik)... (picture) http://www.greatapetrust.org/images/bonobos/bonobo ...
- EpicSelekta, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1Bonobos are also significantly more peaceful than most other apes, and usually function in a matriarchal - that means headed by females - society. They're also known to have casual sex - both heterosexual and homosexual. You can't make this stuff up.
- stephenhacking, on 03/27/2008, -1/+6Now i know where me gambling habits come from..
I hate that chimp who was my ancestor and who gave me this bad bad habit!- SuperJimmyJimbo, on 03/27/2008, -0/+2Don't talk about your uncle fred like that! At least not until he's out of rehab
- caponumen, on 03/27/2008, -3/+1Probably a flawed study as our behavior is much closer to that of the bonobos than the chimps.
In fact we and the bonobos have almost identical sexual habits.- novaculus, on 03/27/2008, -0/+4Speak for yourself.
- trotskyist, on 03/27/2008, -1/+2From Wiki:
"Bonobo males frequently engage in various forms of male-male genital sex (frot).[21][22][23] One form has two males hang from a tree limb face-to-face while "penis fencing"
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yeah. - EpicSelekta, on 03/27/2008, -0/+2That's a matter of opinion. The territorial, aggressive, patriarchal chimpanzees seem to remind me more of humankind than the relatively peaceful, matriarchal bonobos. Bonobos, for one, have not been shown to engage in lethal aggression against their own species. Chimps would have no problem with that task.
- lamiaconfitor, on 03/27/2008, -0/+2I'm no creationist, but is there any possibility that this is a natural trait we share?
- empiric, on 03/27/2008, -0/+0http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/10.1111/1 ...
Yes.- Kevin108, on 03/27/2008, -0/+2Like scratching an itch. Or did we learn that from some other unrelated species as well?
- empiric, on 03/27/2008, -1/+0Genetics doesn't teach. It provides neurological potential for learning.
This is Digg, though, where Super Mario icons "evolve". You were looking for causal precision? - EpicSelekta, on 03/27/2008, -0/+2Chimpanzees and bonobos actually are related to us. The genus Pans (Chimps and Bonobos) are cousins of the genus Homo. I'd certainly say that humankind's closest living relatives are "related".
- empiric, on 03/27/2008, -1/+0Genetics doesn't teach. It provides neurological potential for learning.
- Kevin108, on 03/27/2008, -0/+2Like scratching an itch. Or did we learn that from some other unrelated species as well?
- empiric, on 03/27/2008, -0/+0http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/doi/abs/10.1111/1 ...
- d3c4y, on 03/27/2008, -1/+1Give em some cards and lets see if there any good at poker!
- ayeroxor, on 03/27/2008, -0/+3"see if there any good at poker!"
Or give em a keyboard and see if 'there' any good at grammar!- Cerebron, on 03/27/2008, -0/+0That's actually a better measuring stick for human 'relatives'. Can they play cards? Yes/No? Can they utilize proper grammar? Yes/No? If the answer to more than one of those is 'No', they don't count.
- ayeroxor, on 03/27/2008, -0/+3"see if there any good at poker!"
- whaler, on 03/27/2008, -1/+3Dugg for the "Female chimpanzees 'sell' sex for fruit" link.
- DeFex, on 03/27/2008, -0/+3Look at the people in the casinos, especially the ones sitting in front of the slots. extremely stupid primates. what an insult to chimps and bonobos.
- momsshizzle, on 03/27/2008, -6/+1Chimps or Linsux users, what's the difference?
- ayeroxor, on 03/27/2008, -0/+4Ladies and gentlemen, please don't feed the trolls. If you hate stupid offtopic yelling matches on Digg, you will not reply to the troll. For the love of God, please think of the children!
- EpicSelekta, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1They both did your mom. So did everyone else :)
- Ell3, on 03/27/2008, -2/+1Proving once again that gambling is a tax on the stupid.
- ayeroxor, on 03/27/2008, -3/+4"Humans 'learnt to gamble from chimps'"
And they 'learnt' to spell from Uncle Cletus.- sk11, on 03/27/2008, -0/+3That is the correct term you ignorant imbecile. Perhaps you should actually learn English before you ironically attempt to deride others on their correct use of English grammar. Surely you could have searched the term on an online dictionary beforehand, but that would defeat the inadequate, inbred genes you've inherited from whichever brain dead philistines that belong to your kin.
- Cerebron, on 03/27/2008, -1/+0What kind of monkey is a philistine? j/k.
- sk11, on 03/27/2008, -0/+3That is the correct term you ignorant imbecile. Perhaps you should actually learn English before you ironically attempt to deride others on their correct use of English grammar. Surely you could have searched the term on an online dictionary beforehand, but that would defeat the inadequate, inbred genes you've inherited from whichever brain dead philistines that belong to your kin.
- DeFex, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1Do Bonobos like Bananas?
- LLLSecretChimp, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1Not enough to climb a tree, apparently.
- EpicSelekta, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1They pretty much live on fruit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bonobo
- SteelChicken, on 03/27/2008, -2/+3so people "learnt" from chimps?
we sat around and watched them gamble?
retarded.- EpicSelekta, on 03/27/2008, -0/+2Not sure if you got the memo, but humans generally learn things by observation. Like that time we learned how to make spears, because we realized that sharp things like teeth help kill prey.
Your ancestors, the robotic chickens, never learned this, of course.- Cerebron, on 03/27/2008, -0/+0More likely we realized our faces get the ***** kicked out of them when we tried to bite our enemies, so we decided long sticks with pointy bits were optimal.
- EpicSelekta, on 03/27/2008, -0/+2Not sure if you got the memo, but humans generally learn things by observation. Like that time we learned how to make spears, because we realized that sharp things like teeth help kill prey.
- LLLSecretChimp, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1We didn't learn well, though. I've never seen a chimp split on a pair of tens, but humans do that sometimes.
- Cerebron, on 03/27/2008, -0/+0I've never seen a chimp bottom deal either.
- GeorgeStone2, on 03/27/2008, -1/+1Damn it, Digg.
- brainflakes, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1Of course humans DIDN'T EVOLVE FROM CHIMPS. This is a common mistake, humans and chimps evolved from a /common ancestor/ which may have been quite different from how chimps are now.
- EpicSelekta, on 03/27/2008, -1/+2Read the article, please. It clearly states that humans and chimps coexisted together in early stages in both of our evolutions and during that period, it is possible that we picked up the risk-taking habit that eventually became gambling from chimpanzees. The fact that we evolved from a common ancestor isn't really relevant. Also, most diggers know that.
- Cerebron, on 03/27/2008, -0/+0But what did the chimps learn from us, if anything? We built friggin' casinos and they sit in the dirt and eat poop?
- EpicSelekta, on 03/27/2008, -1/+2Read the article, please. It clearly states that humans and chimps coexisted together in early stages in both of our evolutions and during that period, it is possible that we picked up the risk-taking habit that eventually became gambling from chimpanzees. The fact that we evolved from a common ancestor isn't really relevant. Also, most diggers know that.
- SuperJimmyJimbo, on 03/27/2008, -2/+1chimpanzee that! Monkey NEWS, ya *****' asdfadsfa aaaaah!
- EpicSelekta, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1Please don't drink and digg.
- EpicSelekta, on 03/27/2008, -0/+2What the article doesn't take into account is the difference of social hierarchy between bonobos and humans/chimps. Where humans and chimps are almost always patriarchal (that is, led by males), bonobos are matriarchal and relatively peaceful. That, combined with the fact that men are usually bigger risk-takers*, suggests that we didn't learn risk-taking from the chimps, but rather that we're all predisposed to it.
*Sorry women, but it's true if you think about it. Just watch Cops and compare the number of guys running from the police to the number of women running from police. Point proven. - MasterPain, on 03/27/2008, -0/+0so thats where texas hold em came from
- Neil22, on 03/27/2008, -4/+0"Learnt" is not a word. Dumbass. Go back to being a monkey.
- noumuon, on 03/27/2008, -0/+2yes it is. it's common usage in british english. learned is typical of american english. considering the source, it's rather obvious. the more you know... the less you look like an ass.
- Xel565, on 03/27/2008, -0/+0you fail
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/learnt
- cnorris1, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1True but I usually beat chimps three out of five games at hold-em
- fodder0, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1uuddlrlrba enter
- surKaz, on 03/27/2008, -0/+1Gambling chimps?.. Those Hooligons!... I say, they have to be taught a lesson for that.
