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- wageslaven, on 10/11/2007, -6/+74Shouldnt this be in the Apple section?
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+28"We lie to ourselves more than to anyone else" --unknown
- Lazerbeak, on 10/11/2007, -2/+27the same way fox does
- drake77, on 10/11/2007, -3/+21that was cold...
- Philluminati, on 10/11/2007, -4/+19very clever :=D
- br0ck, on 10/11/2007, -1/+15From the article.. "They throw good money after bad in the market, grab for straws in a dying relationship or send yet more troops to fight a misbegotten war."
Those are three general consequences of this type of justification that have been true throughout history. Since Bush is the most recent leader to be accused of the third, you just assumed it was a 'jab'. - nullcodes, on 10/11/2007, -0/+13Maybe people should be OK with being proven wrong at least once in a while. I noticed that the people who are most fault finding of others are always the quickest to justify their own behavior or mistakes, They can get very defensive about it too. And nearly allways they themselves have equivalent character flaws that they're completely blind to. If challenged on it they become angry instead of analyzing whether there is any truth to it. Personally I try (hopefully with some success) to be more interested in knowing the truth of a situation than trying to avoid the embarrasment or whatever of being wrong.
- cantoral, on 10/11/2007, -1/+14Nassim Nicholas Taleb recently wrote a book, "The Black Swan".
http://www.fooledbyrandomness.com/
He argues about our inability to accept very important rare events; he calls them black swans. Part of the reason is this cognitive dissonance. - DS513, on 10/11/2007, -2/+14You want a quote? Here's a real quote:
"So convenient a thing it is to be a reasonable creature, since it enables one to find or make a reason for every thing one has a mind to do."
-Benjamin Franklin "The Autobiography of Benjamin Franklin" p. 27 - M3RCINIAN, on 10/11/2007, -1/+13I r teh best.
This post was well justified. :) - TheAkolyte, on 10/11/2007, -0/+11A heeping helping of moonshine.
- webcure, on 10/11/2007, -2/+13Open wide, this won't hurt at all.
Well, maybe a little... - IneffibleMind, on 10/11/2007, -0/+8This explains Jack Thompson and his behavior
- ithasfourtoes, on 10/11/2007, -3/+11I couldn't help but notice the underhanded slight at bush and the iraq war at the very end of the article. It seemed strange that even msnbc would slip that into such a purely scientific article. I'm not saying i support or don't support bush, just saying it was very strange,
- webcrumb, on 10/11/2007, -0/+7I think the moral compass had been overpowered by a big chunk of ore of patriotite.
- aspec, on 10/11/2007, -4/+10@purpledrink
I'm not sure your quote exists.
"Your quote doesn't exist."
-me - trer, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6One of my majors in college was Communication and for some reason Cognitive Dissonance is the only concept I've retained from my college career.
"Don't worry, you can always fall back on your degree in...oh my lord...Communication?!"
"I know I know, Is phony major!" - flashback99, on 10/11/2007, -0/+6I felt emotional discomfort reading this. I waited a while, then I agreed, because digg is never wrong.
- knulpm, on 10/11/2007, -0/+5Enough. With. Circumcision.
If I never see this topic on Digg again, it'll be too soon. - MikeonTV, on 10/11/2007, -3/+7So how can you justify hillbillies?
- sekhui, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4It's true. People without teeth really are more attractive.
Signed,
Hockey Players - Sottilde, on 10/11/2007, -6/+9This explains George W. Bush and his behavior.
"God told me to strike at al Qaida and I struck them, and then he instructed me to strike at Saddam, which I did, and now I am determined to solve the problem in the Middle East. If you help me I will act, and if not, the elections will come and I will have to focus on them."
-- George W Bush, according to Palestinian Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas, from minutes acquired by Haaretz from cease-fire negotiations between Abbas and faction leaders from the Hamas, Islamic Jihad and the Popular and Democratic Fronts (circa, June, 2003), quoted from Arnon Regular, "'Road map is a life saver for us,' PM Abbas tells Hamas" (Haaretz.com: June 27, 2003), quoted from EvilOz (The Iterative Record) - webcrumb, on 10/11/2007, -0/+3"But everyone else is doing it!"
- SammyJr, on 10/11/2007, -1/+4I look at male circumcision as being the same kind of thing as the crazy dentistry mentioned in the article. Its primitive, painful, and downright disturbing - I mean, you're removing part of a baby's genitals. Its a perfect example of cognitive dissonance. Parents inflict a painful surgery on their newborn and justify it by claiming that it looks better, by inventing a psychological issue (look like daddy), or by overexagerating a health/disease issue that could be prevented or cured by less invasive means such as antibiotics or safe sex.
- fuzzmeister, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3I'll bite my tounge on that one and just say: ouch.
- mb96net, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3Actually you're wrong. It is the thought/act of finding this new look attractive and regular people (with all their teeth) ugly that is a perfect example of cognitive dissonance. If you don't agree, you don't understand cognitive dissonance.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cognitive_dissonance - jsd8cc, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2"Humans can justify almost anything"
Just take a glace at these digg topics:
Political News
2008 U.S. Elections - AnotherBrian, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2"The test of a first-rate intelligence is the ability to hold two opposed ideas in the mind at the same time, and still retain the ability to function. One should, for example, be able to see that things are hopeless and yet be determined to make them otherwise." -- Francis Scott
Or as Bill Maher one put it: "OJ did it and the police are corrupt". - inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2The beauty of arguement is, once you argue properly you're always right:Thank You For Smoking.
- cftf, on 10/11/2007, -0/+2I call this the "Nazi Concentration Camp Guard Syndrome" (sorry for the unwieldy name). Those guards probably thought they were doing a good thing, rather than being evil.
"We lie to ourselves to ease the pain." Well, sometimes maybe. Other times the motivation is a lot less, well, justifiable - e.g. "we lie to ourselves to gain some temporary advantage", "we lie to ourselves to get out of having to think", "we lie to ourselves to avoid a duty", "we lie to ourselves because we are lazy". - SammyJr, on 10/11/2007, -1/+3@knulpm
I look forward to the day when newborn circumcision is just a footnote in a history book and I never have to hear about it again. But as long as some people think it is a good idea to cut babies, people are going to take issue. - goodoldharris, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Humans can justify anything.
Anything but simultaneously holding two beliefs that collide and cause cognitive dissonance. - xxx420xxx, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Thank you, Captain Obvious
- webcrumb, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Best film I've watched for a long while.
- tybris, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1Well duuuh.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1--totally unrelated but reading anything on MSN sucks. How the hell am I supposed to read that article with that ad animating up and down?
- VioletArrows, on 10/11/2007, -0/+1No, they should delete that word. If a person/group really wants something bad enough, they'll find a way to make it 'right', no matter how wrong it is.
- mattyxo, on 10/11/2007, -2/+3Tell this to the people who harassed that girl for stealing that guy's camcorder. Nobody on digg feels the need to own up to anything because of a diffusion of responsibility. I wish more people on digg cared to digg this article. Mob mentality is a sad sad thing - and people will justify he unfortunate situation based on stupidity because they actually believe they're not wrong.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1it does, i'm just not a know-it-all who remembers names of things ppl say, like yours for example.
- smitty22, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0This article should at least mention the term "neuro-plasticity", the brain's ability to re-wire itself.
That our beliefs are reflected in our neural structure is not all that surprising, and it also stands to reason that when one takes actions incongruent with our beliefs that it knocks the brain for a loop. Kinda like swimming up stream - it's possible, but the path works against you. - jason469, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2We lie to ourselves to east the pain. The pain might be physical or psychological. Guys how many times have you hurt yourself and just to seem manly said (in your head or out loud) "this doesn't hurt, I'm fine"? when you know damn well you are hurting bad lol.
- inactive, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2I agree. The best example would have been psychology itself.
- aikimann, on 10/11/2007, -2/+2Actually, cognitive dissonance can be considered an evolutionarily acquired trait.
We've evolved to become logical creatures. (if we were illogical, we probably wouldn't have lasted very long). So, we constantly try to make sense of our surroundings, and decide the correct course of action. But, what happens if two beliefs about the world are presented to us, and we have to make a decision?
With Cognitive Dissonance
-This contradiction bothers us so we seek to resolve it. Hopefully, this urge to resolve it leads to determining which is actually correct. And either way, the next time we're placed in a similar situation we've already determined how to act, so that we don't hesitate and get eaten by the animal with the big teeth.
No Cognitive Dissonance
-The contradictions don't bother us, so we either pick one at random, ignore the problem, or mentally freeze and not know what to do. The first one gives you a 50/50 shot at not being eaten, while the last 2 pretty much insure you'll soon be digested.
I think the option WITH cognitive dissonance provides us with much better odds of survival. - iChaz, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0they should emphasize on the "almost" part. :]
- kellyjenkins, on 10/11/2007, -0/+0What you don't understand you can make mean anything.
-Chuck Palahniuk from his book, Diary - simplejoe79, on 10/11/2007, -1/+1WOW WOW.....the article was really intreresting and informative......
- x00x, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2What ever happened to beauty is in the eye of the beholder? Despite the many health benefits associated with circumcision, for example
a much lower incidence of AIDS, other sexually transmitted diseases, lower cancer of cancer, some might look upon the procedure in the
same barbaric way we look at these Indian tribes. But then if psychologists didn't have things to pontificate about how would they rationalize
their vocation? H'm. I wonder if these guys suffer from any cognitive dissonance of their own? Humans can indeed justify just about anything
as the need to validate the customs of other cultures to ourselves show. - jason469, on 10/11/2007, -1/+0Didn't let me edit the my first comment, I messed up a word so here is it should have looked like:
We lie to ourselves to ease the pain. The pain might be physical or psychological. Guys how many times have you hurt yourself and just to seem manly said (in your head or out loud) "this doesn't hurt, I'm fine"? when you know damn well you are hurting bad lol. - Error601, on 10/11/2007, -3/+2Or, in the case on digg, click the digg down button and stick head in sand. Especially when you point out someone's beliefs are based purely on irrational stereotypes. Religion bashing dumbasses like to use that one a lot.
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