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- Floodle, on 10/12/2007, -2/+29I don't know about everyone being able to do it, I struggle to have lucid thoughts when I'm awake.
- Heiliger, on 10/12/2007, -4/+26Once I had a dream that I ate a giant marshmallow.
When I woke up, my pillow was gone. - aggieandrew, on 10/12/2007, -3/+22 I used to do it all the time just by using some logic.
If you are awake, then you know without a doubt that you are awake.
If you are dreaming, sometimes you question if you are awake or dreaming.
So, if you ever aren't sure if you are awake or not, then you must be dreaming. If you were awake, you wouldn't question it.
In short, if I ever think that I might be dreaming, then I assume I am, and of course try to fly and use the Force. - mongrel, on 10/12/2007, -5/+22My problem is, as soon as I realize it's a dream I ALWAYS wake up.
Which also happens to be when the girls get the most naked. It's really masochistic :( - magister, on 10/12/2007, -1/+14Please, if you are going to use the word, use it correctly. It's Eleventy Billion. I know, some of you might say "That's not even a real word." and to that, I have but one reply. "Not yet."
- alecks, on 10/12/2007, -3/+12The problem is, for me at least, that in my dreams I never even think to question my state.
I think that's what some of the lucid dreaming techniques try to teach you.... during your waking state, train yourself to do a reality check every hour, so it becomes almost instictive... then when you dream, you're more likely to perform this check and therefore become lucid... - norbiu, on 10/12/2007, -7/+14I'm having a hard time not falling asleep while reading this thing
- DoctorShim, on 10/12/2007, -2/+9Opposite with me. When I dream I'm convinced I'm really awake, even if I'm shooting rainbow coloured butterflies out of my arse (happened once). Depends how much I had to eat or what was on my mind before I go to sleep. x)
- alecks, on 10/12/2007, -2/+8@seumas: Obviously most comments in this thread are from people who are interested in this topic. Why do you feel the need to show us all how pointless this is?? Is it really worth your time to reply to every comment and show us how we're wasting our time or we're wrong about whatever?
Do you do this in other forums where people discuss things your not interested in or disagree with?
*40 yrs ago I'd've called you a square - joemacd, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7I too have been lucid dreaming all my life, at least as long as I can remember, although I didn't know there was a term for it.
I always assumed it was because I am a fairly light sleeper, therefore I wasn't really completely sound asleep while I was doing it. Maybe I am wrong, I don't know or particularly care. I just thought I'd share my experience.
Indeed, whenever I am dreaming and something in the dream goes awry - like I am getting mugged or something disturbing - I can usually say to myself, "This is a dream, just make him drop his weapon". In the worst cases, I'll say, "This is just a dream... wake up." and I do.
Strangely enough however, in contrast to the article's rule that you have to have "dream recall" to lucid dream, I very rarely remember my dreams other than for about 10 seconds after waking up. Long enough to know that I have been controlling my dream, but not long enough to remember what I was controlling.
Also, in supporting my "light sleeper" theory, in the last few years I have gained a bit of weight and started snoring. As a result, I have become a much more sound sleeper than I was when I was thinner. As it happens, I find I don't have as much control over my dreams as I used to, and more and more often I have to force myself to wake up instead of just changing the situation."
I am currently attempting to lose some weight. If I get down to my old weight and stop snoring, we'll see if I become a more lucid dreamer again. - Heiliger, on 10/12/2007, -6/+11You are clearly exaggerating.. it is merely the 8 billionth time.
- sixspeed, on 10/12/2007, -2/+7To test whether I'm awake or not, I always attempt to levitate myself. If I can, I know I'm dreaming. The first couple of times I tried this test, I startled myself awake. Now, I'm just excited to realize I am lucid dreaming. The next step usually involved some gorgeous woman appearing and asking what she could do for me. After waking up and finding myself humping my pillow like a big dog - I had to give up the lucid sex dreams. Thank god my wife didn't see me. I never would have heard the end of it.
- Snarfy, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Writing your dreams down is the secret!
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Ignorance is indeed bliss. but it also shows a fair amount of stupidity
how can some of you even talk of this subject, deny the subject, when you are simply clueless about it
move on, for the last time, just move on, enjoy your reality tunnel, as narrow as it might be - Kitsune818, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5How do you tell the difference between a real lucid dream and a dream about having a lucid dream??
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+83 Steps.
1. Write down your dreams upon awakening.
2. Ask youself during the day 'Is this a dream'? (eventually the answer will be yes)
3. Sleep.
In 30 days you will start to have lucid dreams. 100% Guranteed. But you must write down your dreams so you will learn to remember your dreams, lucid or otherwise. - twinklyJesus, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4I once dreamed that I was enjoying the worlds largest margarita. When I woke up there was salt all over the toilet bowl rim.
- Crossmenjeff, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6Lucid dreaming actually does work, i worked on it for about a week and it happened. For me what worked was incorporating the "am i awake?" question into my daily routine, and by using logic to answer if i was or not it was easy to spot the errors in my dream and gain control. Also, right before i would sleep i would just focus on breathing in and out, not letting my mind wander as it will do regularly. Once you figure out you are dreaming, you start manipulating it how you want, and thats when your dreams become way better than real life.
- Jonhat, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5When I submitted this I was aware that Lucid Dreaming had already been posted -- but not this article, and I *thought* it was pretty much unknown. I didn't know it existed until this morning, so I would hardly have put in "Lucid Dream" into the search box.
- habenneas, on 10/12/2007, -3/+7Sheesh, Seumas, for someone who's not interested, you sure are spending a lot of time here. Just move along already.
Lucid dreaming in one form or another will completely change our world within 5 years. - you can quote me on that. - aeoo, on 10/12/2007, -4/+8Nice article. I've had many lucid dreams and other experiences (like astral projection, false awakening, and other stuff).
Here's the kicker, as I practiced my dreams became vivider and vivider and they started to feel so real that I was failing all kinds of dream checks left and right. It actually kinda disturbed me in the past, because I couldn't tell anymore what was real and what was a dream, because there was no guarantee the "reality"-check would ever work -- dreams could feel real and "reality" (or waking) could feel dreamy (yes, like go through the wall, etc.).
So I stopped all that for many years due to my fears, but I'm back now. :) I'm not afraid anymore, but it took me a long time contemplating the point of my life, what I want out of life, why I am alive (like, am I alive just to survive from paycheck to paycheck and accumulate savings, or is there anything more worthy?), and I've answered all these questions for myself and largely without relying on any organized religions, but I did learn a lot from Buddhism and Taoism, and many others too. The thing that helped me most is contemplating over and over all the things I had feared the most and coming to accept them. I am a very different person now because of this.
To me, lucid dreaming has always been a study of what is real and not really a way to have "fairy-land" dreams as some people have put it. It's not a toy, but a very powerful investigative technique. Sure, it was fun to do some strange things in my dreams, but after a while, that's not the point anymore for me.
Just wanted to share some of my experience. :) Nothing more, nothing less. - brotheralien, on 10/12/2007, -2/+6learnt (lûrnt) v. A past tense and a past participle of learn.
so there. - redwards, on 10/12/2007, -0/+4Did I just see someone call astral projection science?
- cuby, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5i spent my adolescence obsessed with this phenomenon, read all the dopey books that were available, and can offer a few tips for anyone who is interested in optimizing the experience.
the process of getting it to happen regularly is varied -- generally, incorporating some form of meditation into your lifestyle helps, but it's just as helpful to wake up either to a soft light from a nearby window, or even better, set your computer or cd player to wake you up with very low, soft speech or music (mst3k works surprisingly well).
you basically just want to let some stimulus from the real world filter gently into your sleep, not enough to wake you, but enough to factor in a familiar element.
but once it happens, the biggest challenge is to maintain the state. most people can only hold it for a moment or two before waking up. exacerbating this is the phenomenon that the more strenuous or complicated the activity you attempt during this state, the more likely it is that you will wake up fully.
the best trick, once you realize you are lucid, is to remain perfectly calm, and sort of stabilize yourself. with some practice, you will be able to sense where the threshold is, and also develop your own methods for staving off waking. for example, if you feel yourself waking up, then stop whatever you're doing, and stop whatever thoughts you may be thinking. this is why meditation helps -- people with busy brains who instantly SNAP to attention when they wake up will have a hard time with this.
once you are able to tread that line where you maintain lucidity without falling back into deep sleep or waking up, then you will better understand what your limitations are. sadly, removing another person's clothing -- or your own -- is often too complicated a task to perform without waking up. so you learn to forget about that sort of thing, and just accomplish what you can. that's why flying is such a great activity -- doesn't involve belt buckles ;) - xutopia, on 10/12/2007, -1/+5Lucid dreams are fun and all but I can also understand a bunch of people thinking there is meaning to it all. A dream is just a dream.
- mfouchi, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Good lord. I stopped reading slashdot and came over to digg to get away from all of that flaming/bashing/cursing/i'm_better_than_you/stop_posting_good_material_even_though_the_last_time_it_was_posted_was_like_eleventy_billion_days_ago crap
Looks like Digg comments are about to jump the shark - jup619, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4I cant believe nobody has mentioned Waking Life yet. It is a good movie, a little akward but it covers lucid dreaming pretty well, as well as techniques to practice. One of them suggests that you cannot change light levels, so when in doubt try to turn the lights on or off.
- RazielX, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5I used to experiment with lucid dreaming...but instead of waking up immediately after realizing that I was having a dream, I would instead wake up, but be totally paralyzed. I would stay paralyzed for a little while, then finally go back to sleep and wake up normal. After a few episodes like that, I stopped messing with lucid dreaming.
+Digg :) - ramd3z, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Carmen Elecktra here i come
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3What you describe is sleep paralysis. It is commonly experienced by many people, at least once in their lives, and often feels like it could be a paranormal experience, such as a demonic presence trying to drag you to hell or alien abduction. The phenomenon has been recognized throughout the ages by many cultures. Succubi for instance, it feels like something is having sex with you, and/or sitting on your chest, has been called the Old Hag. Some very interesting/freaky experiences are associated with sleep paralysis, such as astral projection and out of body experiences. Regardless of whether or not there are actually demons, slutty witches, or other planes one can travel, I myself personally have no conviction on whether or not they are real, I lean towards the belief they are hallucinations, considering that the descriptions of what presences are extant during a sleep paraysis event vary depending on one's culture and era, what people used to think of as demons are now thought of as aliens. But sleep paralysis in and of itself is definitely a real phenomenon.
- Gottschalk, on 10/12/2007, -9/+12And it's the 11th billionth time it has been interesting.
Lucid dreaming is not like ghost sightings, UFOs or other BS. It falls entirely in the realm of reality and I believe most people desire to lucid dream. - devilish, on 10/12/2007, -2/+5But one of the main themes of this site is hacking, whether a technology or your own body.
OBE and talking to the dead are not hacks
--not yet at least....I'm still translating the Necronomicon ;0) - shadowmoses, on 10/12/2007, -1/+4this is a good article, Dugg
- nesdude, on 10/12/2007, -0/+3Yeah, if you flip a light switch and nothing happens, or something totally unexpected happens, then it's usually a sure fire sign of a lucid dream. Not always, though. This is just one of many reality checks you can do, including looking at a clock and a mirror.
-nesdude - alecks, on 10/12/2007, -6/+9"Wow. Why are you on digg? Shouldn't you be off checking your horroscope and getting your aura read over a cup of chamomille tea?"
That's right, Digg is for those who are interested ONLY in technology and have no other interestes, passions or hobbies.
Idiot. - cybortrip, on 10/12/2007, -4/+7you haters need to realize there is a lot more out there than what we see in the physical world. some of these concepts may not be tangible or realistic from your point of view. you are obviously either close-minded or simply uninformed which if that is the case, you need to stay away from the comments area and leave it to those who are interested in and would like to discuss the subject matter. even though lucids have been discussed before on digg it apparently is getting enough attention if its making to the front page and therefore validates its being here.
- vlsi0n, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I can tottaly relate. I was dreaming for a few days in a row and every night I would think about something I wanted to dream about and I figured out that when I wake up in the mourning I'm semi-awake (like I hit the alarm and drift into a light sleep) and then I can understand whats going on in my dream and I was controlling what I wanted to do; it was great but my dreams never seem to last very long. oh well cool +dugg
- twinklyJesus, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3You guys don't understand the concept of a forum. It is a group of opinions being shared. If two people agree on everything, one of them is not necessary. If you throw out all opinions that aren't like yours, then this becomes a new age fan-boy rally not a forum for sharing information and ideas. This is the same type thinking that kept Galileo down and hundreds of other scientists who flew in the face of popular opinion. Speaking of which, you are doing, not Seamus or anyone who said that this subject was less than factual.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -4/+6Non Science? Actually, the Brain is quite the un-explored territtory. Nobody is quite sure yet how to 'measure' it. But lucid dreams are real. They do happen and people can have them regularly with practice. That alone should indicate how little we know of the brain. Now, throw in quantum mechanics and I give a big FU to the lame ass doubters.
- unitedstatians, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2warning Hollywood secrets revealed:
They've learnt to write their dreams in a very detail form which gives them a lot of material when brainstorming movie scripts and it's a very good idea to start when your a young teenager
"Since their hit with The Matrix, studios are clamoring for whatever else they have ever worked on. Trimark has bought an unproduced script they wrote years ago, Carnivore, a creepy tale about a boarding house whose residents keep disappearing. The brothers will executive-produce it, while horror veteran George A. Romero (Dawn of the Dead) will likely direct"
we talking about millions millions dollars here - sproutworks, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4I haven't had a lucid dream but I have been able to increase my dream recall significantly by using a dream journal. The first time I tried this, within days I was remembering up to 5 dreams per night. Recalling dreams while I'm waiting to fall asleep is useful too. I just try to visualize a scene from a dream, and then move onto another dream. I find this process accelerates once I get going, and it's like its going on autopilot. They seem to be chained together based on some correlations in the scenery.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2Yeah, but people also claim that you dream only in black and white which is *****, too.
- dr4x0n, on 10/12/2007, -12/+14There is like 10 old stories about this already.....Check before you post....Some up to a year ago....They even covered one of these on an early diggnation podcast......
http://www.digg.com/links/Caution_on_Hacking_Your_Dream_-_Lucid_Dreaming
http://www.digg.com/technology/How_to_Make_your_Own_Lucid_Dream_Machine_
http://www.digg.com/science/Lucid_Dreaming_2
http://www.digg.com/links/How_to_have_Lucid_Dreams
http://www.digg.com/science/Lucid_Dreaming - Jonhat, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4http://www.dreamviews.com/
Another good site on Lucid Dreaming (found in the 'further reading' section of the Wikibook). - xeigen, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Lucid dreaming is not fake, if you read the thing you would know scientific study has proven it.
- inactive, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3Scientific Research from Stanford:
http://www.lucidity.com/NL53.ResearchPastFuture.html
(LeBarge has a great book on lucid dreaming and the studies conducted at Stanford, he really got me into this reality) - Mental64, on 10/12/2007, -2/+4Me too, don't have them anymore at all. I used to have such weird dreams, it was quite nice to be able to wake myself up.
Then again, I don't smoke weed anymore, I always wondered if that had some effect on my dreams. - AngelGirl0, on 10/12/2007, -1/+3I have been lucid dreaming ever since I was 10 years old.
Its good to have an off switch just in case you are having a stupid dream or a nightmarish dream that you don't want to continue dreaming about. - lostinhamilton, on 10/12/2007, -0/+2 Actually, I've read that you don't dream at all when you're snoring... That may be your problem.
- santiago1, on 10/12/2007, -3/+5"If you open your mind for me
You won't rely on open eyes to see
The walls you built within
Come tumbling down, and a new world will begin
Living twice at once you learn
You're safe from the pain in the dream domain
A soul set free to fly
A round trip journey in your head
Master of illusion, can you realize
Your dream's alive, you can be the guide but..."
Thought this to be quite apropos. -
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