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- Hetman, on 11/12/2008, -7/+40It cost 1blue 1black and 2 generic mana to cast. It is considered a sorcery. You are able to look at your oppenents hand and chose one none land card to discard. Then surch your opponents library and graveyard and remove those cards with the same name. The opponent then must reshuffle his/her library. If I remember correctly that is a lobotomy works.
- DrumDog2112, on 11/13/2008, -0/+20I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy. (nyuk-nyuk)
- sinisterouge, on 11/13/2008, -1/+201. Remove Brain Chunk
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3. PROFIT!!! - mstump, on 11/13/2008, -0/+15Um, what.
- Zervaman, on 11/13/2008, -2/+17Ahhhh lobotomies...
Hey, lets scramble this crazy guy's frontal lobe, that'll, uhh, fix his craziness. - amauldin71, on 11/13/2008, -0/+12It stuns me that anyone would think shoving what is essentially an icepick up into someone's brain through their eyesocket and just kinda twirling it around is somehow a good idea. I five-year old could tell that's ***** up.
- Zervaman, on 11/13/2008, -1/+11Seeing as how your username is "palin2012" I can only assume that you have already had a lobotomy.
- vertigo32, on 11/13/2008, -0/+9I'm epileptic. My first seizure caused me to total my first car. Other seizures have caused me to destroy my shoulder and smash my head into a curb. Everything is fully treated now - as long as I take my five pills on time every day.
If my medication wasn't available or didn't work, I wouldn't be able to function. I couldn't drive or operate any sort of machinery, I would have trouble doing my job, I wouldn't be able to mow my lawn or climb a ladder...hell, it wouldn't be safe for me to take a bath. Other then the risk of a seizure at any time, I would be perfectly capable, intelligent, and fine as long as the falls or seizures didn't cause more brain damage.
I can understand why people would be so desperate for a cure - any cure. If I lived in that era, even without the pressure of the social stigma of these disorders, I would probably seek some kind of treatment like this or the shock therapies. I can also understand why a doctor would be so enthusiastic about performing the procedure, thinking he is helping people. - SreyaNotfilc, on 11/13/2008, -0/+8"As you'll read in this article, it wasn't always much of a cure. Let's start by looking at exactly what goes into performing a lobotomy.
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That threw me off for a second, I admit. - TheDreadDiggerD, on 11/13/2008, -0/+8Yeah, but if you complained they just gave you another one.
- zip000, on 11/13/2008, -0/+7That is the worst spelling of the word "search" I've ever seen.
- bradleyjx, on 11/13/2008, -0/+7um... even if most of us didn't think this was an insane procedure, I would bet that most all these that are still done are done through taxpayer money via asylum funding.
Maybe it should become law that making an incredibly irrelevant political message in an article that has little to nothing to do with politics should have one of thses... - inactive, on 11/13/2008, -0/+6If you read the article they speak of shocking the patient out of their illness with electro-shock therapy, hot and cold baths, insulin and finally destroying part of the skull and removing part of the brain.
It smacks of frustration on the part of the professionals involved, because in all of these cases they appear to be using brute force to cure people of their illnesses or personality defects.
They might as well have kicked seven shades of ***** out of their patients to shock them out of their illness or defects, or perhaps beaten their heads in with a baseball bat.
And this was less than a century ago.
How barbaric. - Lewie, on 11/13/2008, -1/+6Dugg for being a geek.
- Regulator980, on 11/13/2008, -1/+5Here's a related article that made Digg's Front Page almost a year ago titled "He was bad, so they put an ice pick in his brain..."
http://digg.com/health/He_was_bad_so_they_put_an_i ... - passedoutghost, on 11/13/2008, -1/+5read the ***** manual? What manual?
- roddack, on 11/13/2008, -0/+4taps 2 blue.....Counter spell Bitch! :P
- GiJoeBob, on 11/13/2008, -0/+4Man, that's horrible.
- Detritus, on 11/13/2008, -0/+3Thanks for posting that! I actually knew Dully growing up, and it is wild to see him being talked about in a British Rag's website. We lost touch about 8 or 9 years ago and now I've got to track him down again!
It is true, he really doesn't seem that off, certainly not anything like you'd expect from a lobotomy patient. He might come off as a little extraordinarily jovial, but nothing bad really. It is neat to read this and see that the joviality is his coping mechanism; he relishes the joy in life to make the horror easier to live past. He has really learned value in stopping to smell the roses. - Lycestra, on 11/13/2008, -0/+3I saw the linked PBS Documentary on Lobotomies. Recommended for anyone who really wants more nightmares.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/amex/lobotomist/program/
It still freaks me out how this procedure was fully legitimate medicine, and so routine for some inappropriate uses. - iamdak, on 11/13/2008, -0/+3Anyone ever see Session 9?
Frontal lobotomies scare the ***** outta me. - mstump, on 11/13/2008, -0/+3I spent an hour yesterday morning reading about this procedure. Did everyone else get the same Wired.com link in their gmail newsfeed? And did anyone else find the classic, "I'd rather have a bottle in front of me, than a frontal lobotomy" in the process?
- romeen, on 11/13/2008, -0/+3Dorothy Parker
http://thinkexist.com/quotes/dorothy_parker/ - BotchaMcCoola, on 11/13/2008, -0/+3The point is that it makes patients easier to handle. It appears to work from that cold and inhumane angle.
- ClevelandBrown, on 11/13/2008, -0/+3Tom Cruise does not approve.
- vertigo32, on 11/13/2008, -0/+2It seems barbaric, but at the time they didn't have the same standards and the same alternative treatments they have today. In some cases, those treatments worked or at the very least seemed to work.
Before those treatments, things like beating them senseless or locking them in a room to go even more insane was the only thing they had. Many of the people who got those treatments were too violent and dangerous to care for otherwise, and became docile enough to receive a decent standard of care after the treatments.
It's not a good thing, but those barbaric treatments were a definite improvement over the previous ones and they let more people receive some form of care. I'm very glad that we have moved past those brutal treatments...I'm epileptic myself, so I appreciate being able to take a few pills every day instead of having my brain scrambled, but I can understand why they felt they needed to do something. - Retsam06, on 11/14/2008, -0/+2Actually, I think that in this case, step three would be the same as step two.
And step four. And step five.
Probably step six as well. - passedoutghost, on 11/13/2008, -0/+2Wow, the stepmother was a total bitch.
- dr_benway, on 11/13/2008, -1/+3I have a more up-2-date description: (1) wake up in the morning (2) hygienate;groom;dress;commute to the office (3) attend mind-numbing mtgs with essentially useless corp drones (4) limp, er, commute back home (5) drink heavily to numb the pain (6) sleep [maybe] (7) goto step 1
- bigfootindy, on 11/13/2008, -0/+2It's not so bad... They go in through your nose and they let you keep the piece of brain they cut out. Look! Ooh! Hello! Hello there! Who's that big man there? Who's that?
- shig, on 11/13/2008, -0/+2Why? Read "Discipline and Punish: The Birth of the Prison" by Michel Foucault.
He traces the concept of the "docile body", "man as machine", and the larger "carceral system" being implemented all around us, back to 18th century reformists like Jeremy Bentham. The way in which society progressively disciplined and punished individuals with technology gave rise to procedures like lobotomies, but also the concept of prisons, electric chairs, lethal injections, so-on and so-forth, till now society will torture you with a taser gun, openly calling in "pain compliance", if you hesitate to answer a law enforcers question or comply with their immediate demands. - bigredgpk, on 11/13/2008, -2/+4did you rtfm? it sets up the entire article...
- 4321234, on 11/13/2008, -0/+2lobotomy bad
/stare - sdbyrd, on 11/13/2008, -0/+1scary.
- 55mph, on 11/13/2008, -0/+1my first thought.
- bluehexagonsun, on 11/14/2008, -0/+1It should be added that neurologist António Egas Moniz, inventor of the lobotomy, was awarded the NOBEL PRIZE in 1949 for devising this heinous procedure.
One moral to be drawn here: We should be skeptical, at the least, of the claimed objectivity and faultlessness of science; history offers many poignant reminders of the inherent and prodigious dangers of scientism (that is, a particularly uncritical acceptance of the "unjaundiced" postulates of science); in fact, it is oftentimes the case that science serves in the capacity of "ideology" to the extent that it can shape and even distort, for that matter, the better judgment of man.
It's important too, I would add -- in terms of the more specific correlation -- that despite appearances to the contrary, modern psychiatry is potentially, though in a decidedly more oblique way, capable of actualizing a legacy equal to the destructive potential of lobotomies and related procedures that today strike us as beyond the pale. - TheMandibleClaw, on 11/13/2008, -1/+2Tom Waits
- XeRoX2k2, on 11/13/2008, -0/+1so true..so true
- BlatheringIdiot, on 11/13/2008, -1/+2I'd rather have a bottle in front of me
than a frontal lobotomy.... - danlowlite, on 11/13/2008, -0/+1So, yeah. One of my relatives (by marriage) had really bad seizures back in "the good old days" and had this done. They're pretty old, but they act pretty normal except sometimes they just "drop out" of conversations and activities for a minute.
They have a job, children, and so on, and they're fine and act reasonably intelligently, if a little slow. Though that slowness may be a result of aging or their original personality; I didn't meet them until well after the fact.
I don't think they drive or operate heavy machinery, though.
I'm surely glad that such actions aren't really necessary (loaded word, I know) any more. - BotchaMcCoola, on 11/13/2008, -0/+1As I recall the movie, which was excellent by the way, it also made the procedure seem cruel. The mercy killing by the "Chief" was loving, poignant and believable.
- inactive, on 11/13/2008, -0/+1Yesterday, I was a little depressed. Today, I scheduled a lobotomy. Google Maps, take me to my Happy Place.
- ubergeek09, on 11/13/2008, -0/+1I just watched the entire thing.. That was really creepy.
- Dave0112, on 11/14/2008, -0/+1LOL!!
- CrimsonFlash, on 11/13/2008, -0/+1Dr. Freeman! What have you done?!?!
NOOOO!!!!! - inactive, on 11/13/2008, -0/+1Well I agree in part.
I used to have blackouts as a kid, then they gave me a drug and it hasn't happened since, I don't even remember any of it it was so long ago.
Now imagine if they had chosen to remove a bit of my brain through my eyeballs, dropped me in a scalding hot/ice cold bath for hours on end or electrocuted me?
The article even said they still do this stuff and are advocating ressurecting it in places.
Wankers - I hope sense prevails and their peers prevail in turn. - itstodd, on 11/13/2008, -1/+11st you elect them president....
- liminaldust, on 11/13/2008, -1/+1You never insert "misspellings" to insinuate that what you posted wasn't copy/pasted? :P
- Fustigations, on 11/14/2008, -0/+0Kind of like ritalin (spelling?) or many other drugs that are pushed on the populace today in my opinion... I know sometimes these things are necessary, but sometimes the "problem" really isn't a problem, it's just some jackass parent that thinks their kid should be seen and not heard, or might do better in school. At least the people taking the "diet pills" are doing it to themselves, even if they aren't fully informed... Barbaric is a good word to use.
- Fustigations, on 11/14/2008, -0/+0I'll have to agree with Tom on this one very rare instance.
That really hurt me to admit. -
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