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- Xanin, on 01/15/2008, -6/+73People don't seem to realise that a clone is just the same as a twin. You wouldn't mind eating two burgers from two twin cows would you?
- execute85, on 01/15/2008, -2/+50Why stop at labels for cloning. Why not put labels about fertilizer. What effect does fertilizer have on our food?!?
Cloned food will taste better because the best tasting animals are cloned. - inactive, on 01/15/2008, -2/+32You've probably eaten cloned fruits and vegetables and didn't even know it, particularly if you've eaten any seedless fruit. Also, if you smoke good pot, that's often cloned too.
- dafragsta, on 01/15/2008, -0/+20This prime rib is excellent, where did you clone it?
- inactive, on 01/15/2008, -2/+21It's genetically the exact same ***** animal!!! There are no additives other than what is in normal meat. No scary chemicals or radiation. Fearmongers!
- Tainek, on 01/15/2008, -3/+21People do not seem to realise the real risk, the milk and meat will be perfectly fine, the big danger is the risk of "designer" animals becoming the norm, and creating a monoculture. one single virus could wipe out most if not all of a population.
people need to think longer term, genetic diversity is a must - inactive, on 01/15/2008, -0/+17Now this is a totally valid point! There needs to be laws against patenting this sort of thing. (Of course someone will patent the techniques used for the cloning, but no one is selling techniques)
- iticu, on 01/15/2008, -4/+21***** no, as soon as we let clones of animals be farmed, we'll end up with another patent industry like there is with seeds.
- desirecomplex, on 01/15/2008, -0/+16My only fear is that during the cloning process we accidentally create zombies and destroy the city of Santa Cabeza. A cover up will in sue and someone will get pissed and try to blow up a mall in Colorado.
- loup, on 01/15/2008, -0/+15for now, they would clone good breeders who would then produce mated offspring. More good breeders=more good offspring=more good food I guess.
- inactive, on 01/15/2008, -0/+15More compelling than cloned animals is cultured meat. Why even have an animal? Why not just culture the muscle cells of a cow and make sheets of beef? It's already possible, and is far more interesting.
- Karmavs, on 01/15/2008, -2/+17Uncloned food is only healthy according to facts available *now* too.
- elnerdo, on 01/15/2008, -8/+22I think the problem is that if every cow is a twin, there can be big problems with diseases.
- dafragsta, on 01/15/2008, -2/+16Cloning DOES have one logical safety issue which could probably be avoided by limiting the number of clones that can be generated from one set of genetic information. There is this little thing called evolution, and like mentioned above, it means evolving past potential microbiological threats as much as anything else. Ideally, cloning would just provide more breeding pairs and only a set number. This way you can make it a combination of cloning and culling to achieve the highest quality meat.
- brufleth, on 01/15/2008, -0/+12Did you get your information from comic books?
- inactive, on 01/15/2008, -2/+14Genetic diversity?? Yeah, our domestication of cattle and selective breeding really encouraged genetic diversity.
- jacbo, on 01/15/2008, -0/+11They won't clone an animal for the direct purpose of eating it, they will clone the best cattle for breeding stock whose offspring are raised the normal way.
The idea is to get the bulls and cows that breed the best calves to be able to breed forever. - brufleth, on 01/15/2008, -0/+10Nobody is suggesting herds of genetically identical cows. Pretty much any cow farmer would tell you that's a bad idea. They would clone good breading cows. Genetic lines in cows are watched carefully by cow farmers and this would just mean improved availability of good breading stock.
- sonoran, on 01/15/2008, -1/+11That's true if certain archtype gene sets are used then diversity will go way down. That doesn't mean people will have any bad effect from eating the meat. Just that the cattle wouldn't be as able to adapt to different challenges, like a new disease.
- whyufail, on 01/15/2008, -1/+11Bottom line. In regards to the meat itself and the products, there is nothing wrong with cloned meat. Theres no mysterious clone toxin that might get into your food. You're not going to have abnormal levels of vitamin clone in your blood. It's the same *****. However, the issue that arises and why further study must be done is that it is unknown what effect cloning will have virally. We do not want a virus to crop up as a result that wipes out the entire food stock because of little to no genetic diversity, nor do we want a deficiency caused by overcloning to result in a virus that would not normally be fatal or mutated to become either which could have both adverse effects on animal stock but also people. Other than that however, there is no reason to ***** bricks because "oh no, but it was CLONED! Such a scary futuristic word must be bad!"
- SpikeyFreak, on 01/15/2008, -2/+11It's hard to take someone who is discussing a scientific topic seriously when they write "a clone is a contains" and "means that there genome."
- RaDeus, on 01/15/2008, -0/+9why would you need to tamper with the genes to clone something ? you just move the DNA from one cell to another...
- WakeUpToFreedom, on 01/15/2008, -0/+8exactly....hello monsanto terminator cows.
- KenOh, on 01/15/2008, -3/+11Fear of genetically engineered food is absolutely retarded. Cows, chickens, etc. have been genetically altered by humans for as long as humans have been around (i.e. way longer than 6000 years).
- Almadiel, on 01/15/2008, -3/+11Have you ever eaten an animal that had an identical twin? Same thing, only real difference is that twins are accidental and clones are intentional. Moot question as far as I am concerned.
- pero69, on 01/15/2008, -0/+8I always look for a good set of child bearing hips when i'm trolling the bar.
- inactive, on 01/15/2008, -0/+8The best plants are cloned, but not quite in the same way as the animals. Not that there is any more risk of anything either way.
- chingy1788, on 01/15/2008, -0/+8you have to nurse and care for her for 18 years before you are legally allowed to touch her
- lordmetroid, on 01/15/2008, -1/+9Give me all the cloned meat and vegetables you can provide with superior advantages!
- Azurensis, on 01/15/2008, -0/+8I can't wait until they can actually just clone the meat. I'm not talking about raising a full-grown cow, just growing the meat in a vat. No more cow killing, no more PETA. Just yummy meat, even human meat if you like. ;)
- celticchrys, on 01/15/2008, -1/+8Actually, BioDiversity is what allows a species to have some members survive when new diseases or environmental conditions arise. Those who ware resistant or who can in some manner adapt survive, while others do not. Therefore, the more biologically diverse a species, the more likely at least some of them are to survive a given threat.
- RoboDonut, on 01/15/2008, -0/+7Good.
- chingy1788, on 01/15/2008, -0/+7I'd like 10 sheets of your finest beef muscle tissue
- inactive, on 01/15/2008, -0/+7We don't selectively breed. That is a bold statement!! We are attracted to someone and we end up breeding with them. It's not like you go out to a bar and select the healthiest most desireable female or male to mate with. lol With animals, we force breed the strongest and best of the breed and we cull off undesirable offspring. To compare this with how humans breed is a folly.
- Azerael, on 01/15/2008, -0/+7Don't worry, if it happens, I'll handle it.
I've covered wars, you know. - pero69, on 01/15/2008, -0/+7also make sure you have an HDTV. otherwise you won't be able to read anything.
- ianzu, on 01/15/2008, -3/+9Wouldn't be the same. I need to be able to taste the soul.
- partrow, on 01/15/2008, -0/+6Yes I would, and why not? What is your point?
- george@CASE, on 01/15/2008, -0/+6they're not going to produce cloned cows then slaughter them. They're going to pick out their best breeding bulls and cows and clone those so that they can breed normally and produce consistently high quality offspring indefinitely.
- zydeco, on 01/15/2008, -0/+6Styrofoam isn't bad, it was the fluorocarbons used to puff it up. Those were phased out many years ago. I want my Big Mac box back!
- robotto, on 01/15/2008, -0/+5we should thank him for the comic relief.
- sonoran, on 01/15/2008, -0/+5I think the people doing this are very aware of this.
- m0nk, on 01/15/2008, -0/+5I don't see anywhere in the article where the title of this posting comes up.
- nordberg, on 01/15/2008, -0/+5Cloning will probably be used only for breeding stock. A few years ago they cloned a Holstein bull named Hanoverhill Starbuck because of the great offspring that he had produced. The idea was that they could make a copy of Starbuck (Starbuck II was born two years after his death), and they would still have access to his genetics for further breeding. It isn't very practical for widespread use.
- localzuk, on 01/15/2008, -0/+5Please do some research yourself. Evolution is the term used in biology to describe the change in inherited traits in a species over each generation. Part of that process is called natural selection.
- fritzek, on 01/15/2008, -0/+5Hmm... this burger is delicious. I'll save the DNA sample for later.
- cplusplus, on 01/15/2008, -3/+8Yes, its good to maintain some diversity for that reason.
- MWeather, on 01/15/2008, -0/+5Al Gore doesn't have a global warming story. AFAIK, he's never published a peer-revieewd article. I hear he did a movie about the findings of thousands of scientists who have published peer reviewed articles, though.
- fritzek, on 01/15/2008, -0/+5Really? Show me the study.
- DeadFox1, on 01/15/2008, -0/+5who are you *****? Xanin, who beat you by 4 minutes? or execute85, who beat you by 2?
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