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- NikoKun, on 05/14/2008, -8/+77You always hear the Anti-pot people spouting off harms and risks, and linking Cannabis with unrelated conditions or occurrences... It's so blown out of proportion... Cause if you compare any of the real factors belonging to Cannabis, to those of legal drugs like Alcohol or Tobacco... Cannabis is still the safer drug, and thus should be legal.
All fear mongering aside, That is the truth. - fnxy, on 05/14/2008, -8/+54Look at countries that have actually invested in proper research into Marijuana and its properties (Netherlands and most of Europe for example), its either legal or decriminalized at the very least. The scientific research is there, I still don't see how countries like the USA can still blatantly ignore this. Having said that, its not surprising, the American government seems to ignore 99% of what it hears if its not to there liking or benefit.
- a6n28f, on 05/14/2008, -4/+37I've been thinking about the whole legalization effort. I object to the authoritarian language that has so subtly invaded our collective vocabulary and mindset. Let's not tacitly grant the feds power they don't actually have. The US government does not have the power to "legalize" anything. This is not a system of government that tells its citizens what they are allowed to do. Anything not explicitly criminalized is allowed. We want cannabis "decriminalized." We want them to correct their mistake.
If we give them power over words, we allow a measure of control over our minds. - crazyjake, on 05/14/2008, -9/+44One of the reasons i think (my opinion) the government put a ban on Marijuana is because it is damn near impossible to control and tax it once it is legalized! unlike tobacco, Marijuana can be grown damn near anywhere. And if the government can't capitalize on it, why should they let it be legal? i say, reduce government control on Marijuana, and let us have some actual freedoms in the Land of the Free!
If i can DIE for my country, at least let me get HIGH in my country. - a6n28f, on 05/14/2008, -1/+28You mean like a vaporizer?
- inactive, on 05/14/2008, -11/+44As a conservative Christian, I think that marijuana is a horrible thing to put into your body. But, I also believe that each person should be free to put whatever they want into their bodies. It's YOUR body, not mine. It's between you and God.
By the way, alcohol abuse results in FAR more damage and hurt than marijuana ever did. So, let's not be hypocritical. If you're going to ban marijuana, then you'd have to ban the more dangerous alcohol too...if you're not a hypocritical politician.
Finally, let's not make the mistake of assuming that only left-leaning political types want to legalize drugs. - vexingmodstwo, on 05/14/2008, -1/+26Can any of those people show up drunk to work?
- 0260, on 05/14/2008, -2/+29true. as a libertarian i want marijuana to be legal so i can make money selling it legally.
- izackcarson, on 05/14/2008, -1/+23Exactly. Our rights are not given to us by the government, they simply are. We give up rights in order to create government. If you don't want to give up a right, don't. This is not as naive as it sounds. It's the only true way to retain your rights.
- BobScratchit, on 05/14/2008, -2/+23Just between you and me, I'd thank God for putting such a plant on this planet for us to enjoy. And just between God and me, he'd say "No problem, see you soon"
- slothlovechunk, on 05/14/2008, -2/+21You can grow tobacco anywhere too.
People aren't going to grow it anymore when they can buy it at the corner store. It's not like it takes 0 work. - a6n28f, on 05/14/2008, -3/+18Exactly. One of the 3 criteria that must be met for classification as a schedule 1 drug is that it have no known medical application. Clearly, this criteria does not apply. Don't get me started on the "high potential for abuse" criteria. Cannabis doesn't even come close to meeting the governments own standards for scheduling.
- whahaa, on 05/14/2008, -3/+17probably the only pro-God comment i'll digg up all month.
- slothlovechunk, on 05/14/2008, -4/+22What the hell does being a Christian have to do with marijuana? Seriously?
- ANT1138, on 05/14/2008, -0/+14 I don't care if any of those people smoke weed as long as they do it on their own time and not while doing their jobs. The laws for marijuana should be similar to those for cigarettes and alcohol. And guess what, the sort that's dumb enough to go to work high is going to smoke it whether it's legal or not.
- aguynamedjoe36, on 05/14/2008, -3/+18It's really good to see a fellow Christian thinking clearly about this issue. So many times people associate there personal morals directly with what should and shouldn't be legal. The law is no place for specific personal moral convictions.
- ExitMoose, on 05/14/2008, -0/+13It's not his responsibility. It's those who support drug laws as they exist that use "harm caused" as the standard by which they judged whether a drug should or should not be legal. NikoKun is merely pointing out that the illegality of marijuana while more "harmful" drugs like alcohol are legal is not consistent with the claims of the pro-illegal crowd.
- ModernChem, on 05/14/2008, -6/+21I always thought that it was due to institutionalized racism against hispanics in the early 20th century
- Timmaay, on 05/14/2008, -4/+16I live in Massachusetts and they're trying to get enough signatures so if you're carrying up to one ounce of marijuana and get caught the only consequence is a fine. I would love for cannabis to be legalized, but this would be just fine.
- solidcube, on 05/14/2008, -0/+11No it wouldn't be fine, though it would certainly be better than incarcerating people for laughing at the carpet. What right is it of the federal government to invade people's lives in this way? You should be able to grow it, sell it, breed it, smoke it, have bales of it if you want. Who the hell do the politicians think they are?
- vexingmodstwo, on 05/14/2008, -5/+16One time I smoked all day and then ate some shrooms and I would have sworn I saw Jesus.... does that count?
- ZxEfR, on 05/14/2008, -1/+11I just love to read your insightful comments (right or wrong).....more please more!!!! Woooo Whoooo.....let's give it up for UltramegaOK....yay.....UltramegaOK. You go girl!
- Czin644, on 05/14/2008, -0/+9It certainly shouldn't be illegal for any of them. Are you kidding me? Just because they might enjoy it doesn't mean take it 24 hours a day -- let alone while they're working. You don't see 911 dispatchers taking swigs of whiskey in between calls?
Giving you the benefit of the doubt; How are people who are "goofy and lazy" somehow now jailed with criminals? - plagiats, on 05/14/2008, -1/+10please just stop whining
- flashback99, on 05/14/2008, -1/+10The argument is simple and can be summed up as follows.
1. Alcohol CAN and DOES kill people.
2. Nobody has EVER died from Cannabis in the entire known history of the earth.
Put that in your ***** NIDA advert. - mfc5200, on 05/14/2008, -5/+14Some drugs are very harmful and dangerous. That can't be denied. Marijuana is not one of them.
http://www.drugwarfacts.org/comparecht.gif - RSS14, on 05/14/2008, -6/+16Smoke Weed Everyday!
- LordStandley, on 05/14/2008, -0/+9As much as I would like to agree with you I think people are lazy and most would prefer to buy it at a local store rather than grow it.
People can grow their own food too, but hardly any do. It's just easier to let someone else do it and buy it at a given store. The Government can still a ***** ton off of it.
Legalize it please! - mikexcore, on 05/14/2008, -2/+11what makes you so sure those dentists or 9-1-1 dispatchers aren't already smoking? every week there's a new scandal with some teacher molesting a kid.. you're going to tell me marijuana is worse? come on man, don't feed into the propaganda
- TritonX, on 05/14/2008, -0/+8LOl, I'm pretty sure you can find marijuana smokers amongst all professions, even judges, lawyers, policeman, etc... The truth is, there is probably few users around you which you will never know they consume pot.
- Shaman760, on 05/14/2008, -1/+9Marijuana is not physically addictive. Someone may have a compulsive personality and think they're addicted, but I've never seen anyone suffering DT's from lack of marijuana. Alcohol on the other hand can kill you if you are a hardcore alcoholic and you stop drinking.
- fluffythekitten, on 05/14/2008, -0/+7clearly, you're not getting it.
- BertEatsDirt, on 05/14/2008, -0/+7I think people say "legalise" rather than "decriminalise" because "decriminalise" has it's own distinct meaning. To legalise marijuana would make it like any other commodity that can be bought and sold on the open market. To decriminalise marijuana would mean you're still going to get your weed confiscated and a slap on the hand but no *criminal* record, hence "decriminalise". That's my understanding of it anyway
- solidcube, on 05/14/2008, -0/+7How about this: you're a brainwashed authoritarian puppet.
- IRoaChI, on 05/14/2008, -2/+9its all about profits. It if is legal, we will be able to buy ***** loads of high quality for a few bucks. Having it illegal increase the price, bigger profits and the rest is to give people jobs (police, lawyers, feds, politicians... all the wankers really)
- WoollyMittens, on 05/14/2008, -0/+7And ignorance makes you arrogant.
- solidcube, on 05/14/2008, -1/+9This is an extremely important issue. It's an example of fascist policy on the part of the US government. Many millions of americans are incarcerated for marijuana-related offenses. Many more are forced to pay exorbitant fines. Marijuana laws make billions for the state in terms of asset forfeiture and are being used to fuel an ever-increasing police state. The US government would rather glaucoma patients GO BLIND rather than have a substance that stops the disease in its tracks.
And if people want to get high, what the hell business is it of the federal government? - vexingmodstwo, on 05/14/2008, -1/+8Dude... seriously, don't go throwing stuff on the White House lawn. You're libel to get shot.
- NikoKun, on 05/14/2008, -0/+6I love it when anti-pot people use such an argument... Because it's so easy to prove them wrong... And it shows their own stupidity.
Do we let any of those people drink on the job? So why would we let them smoke pot on the job? They'd still be fired, either way.
If they smoke a little pot in the evenings to relax, it has no barring or effect on their work productivity/accuracy. The effects from smoking pot only last 4 hours max.
But besides that, quite frankly, I'd rather have a high doctor, than a drunk one. - solidcube, on 05/14/2008, -1/+7This, friends, is the infinite wisdom of the christian right. This man's logic is like a steel trap.
- inactive, on 05/14/2008, -1/+7liable. but definitely a good point.
- pygmy, on 05/14/2008, -4/+10Vaporize it NOW!
- cygnus2112, on 05/14/2008, -1/+7Yeah, go figure. People being smart or educated enough to know that the plant isn't the national or global danger that it's made out to be. Perish the thought of adults knowing how to moderate or knowing that some global pothead crime epidemic won't begin by legalization. You know, Woody Harrelson and Montel Williams are more dangerous than gangs and cartels.
- NeutrixX, on 05/14/2008, -2/+7It has everything with interpreting the Bible (as it is the main source of text from which we swear to tell the truth upon within our court system). A Christian (in the modern sense - one of free will whom chooses to believe in the teachings of Christ as an adult) is someone who has accepted Jesus as his saviour. Now this comes from trying to establish a day to day relationship with Jesus and trying to understand and interpreting what he brought to mankind. I for one as a Christian understand that Jesus taught us that every individual has the freedom to choose to walk with God or not. Has the freedom to do whatever he or she will do, albeit should be bound by God's teachings (brought to us by the disciples in the Bible). That is a fundamental principle in the way I interpret Christianity, as well do many of my friends. Now, you would probably describe me as a Libertarian Christian (I would just say Christian), for I believe it was Jesus and his forgiveness of mankind's sins that allowed us the ability to make mistakes and not walk with damnation in spite of ourselves. I also believe as a Christian the seed they describe in the Bible as giving of life was the hemp seed - "And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat (Genesis 1:29). Jesus taught us that all things on the planet was ours for the taking, however that we should be wise upon the use of such things. I for one, as well as those at thc-ministry.net believe it is immoral (and against the Christian values that Canada and the U.S. were made upon) to place someone in jail for wanting to use the so called illicit substance.
- inactive, on 05/14/2008, -1/+7i am not into drugs but pot is not as harmful as alcohol and / or tobacco if it is harmful at all - police spending man hours and the courts jails and prisons processing criminals guilty of nothing other than cannabis is a huge waste of time and energy and unfair to those criminalized by the system - there are way more important issues
- vexingmodstwo, on 05/14/2008, -4/+11You're high right now, aren't you? Don't get me wrong, I agree with you 100%... but you're stoned off your gourd right now, right?
- WTFppl, on 05/14/2008, -0/+5Peoples personal motivation, based off self-esteem and personal interest, will dictate a persons drive! Goofy, is just a perspective.
Get real! - GanjaGirl, on 05/14/2008, -0/+5My biggest beef with the whole "anti-pot" crowd is the gateway-drug argument. True, because pot is illegal, a lot of times you have to come into contact with people who deal in other drugs to get it. If it were legalized, taxed, and regulated, however, one would not need to put themselves in a situation involving harder drugs just to get their smoke on.
- cygnus2112, on 05/14/2008, -0/+5"Marijuana was once used as a folk remedy in many primitive cultures, and even in the 19th century was frequently used by some American doctors, much as alcohol, cocaine, and heroin were once used by doctors."
I found this quote particularly interesting from Mark Souder's War on Drugs comment. Once used? Alcohol? Cocaine? Heroin? Perhaps he would like to visit a pharmacy or hospital at some point in his life. All three are still used and used quite frequently in today's medicines and prescriptions. - WoollyMittens, on 05/14/2008, -4/+11Only a society of hypocrites would outlaw cannabis, but promote alcohol. Maybe cannabis interfered with the government's methods for mind-controlling people.
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