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- notque, on 08/07/2008, -0/+10Head on, apply wax directly to your forehead. Pay 6 dollars for it.
- halfdirt, on 08/08/2008, -0/+7Nothing in the video about modern medicine being the only way to treat ailments. What is in the video is a mathematical argument that the homeopathic solutions (diluted to 1/10^30 or 1/10^1500) do not even contain a single molecule of active ingredient. They are effectively placebos. I'm not sure what kind of argument you could make that the medicines DO work, if the math is even remotely accurate.
- arjie, on 08/08/2008, -0/+6PS: I don't get the Scurvy message either. All you need is a proper diet with enough Vitamin C.
- notque, on 08/07/2008, -0/+4Refuse to buy their products based on that, instead of the fact it's nothing but 6 dollar wax?
- arjie, on 08/08/2008, -1/+5That's all very well, Minarchian, but then you're arguing to nobody. If applying wax to your forehead showed statistically significant results in a double blind experiment then modern medicine will accept that. You just have to show reproducible results, that's all. However, too much of it is junk science.
Of course, if you're talking about drugs as 'medicine' then that's another point, of course. My dad, as an orthopaedic surgeon, frequently advises people to exercise instead of asking for steroid injections for certain joint pains (or something, I don't know the particulars). Yes, drugs aren't the answer to everything.
Homeopathy however is actively dangerous because practitioners keep decrying modern medicine in an attempt to drive more people to their own (so far, clinically unproven, and largely ineffectual) practice. That is morally indefensible. It must also be made clear that homeopathy is junk medicine. Some people who would recover, won't simply because they chose homeopathy over the advice of the local doctor. For some medication, the adverse effects (rifampicin for tuberculosis causes quite a few) may drive people to think that homeopathy is a better option (especially when this belief is fuelled by active recruiting by homeopathy practitioners claiming they have a better cure) causing them to discontinue treatment. This may cause drug resistance. In case of infectious diseases, these people are now more dangerous for having given up treatment. Homeopathy sometimes makes the world a worse place.
Also of note, because you mentioned that "medicine" is not the only way to cure diseases: I mentioned that my dad is an orthopaedic surgeon. Here in India, people often go to bone setters when they get a fracture. After the bone-setter does his stuff and the limb heals, it usually turns out horrendously misaligned and though you can correct the problem if it's early enough, quite a few patients lose proper mobility because of the re-setting done at the bone-setter.
Alternative medicine may sometimes work, some herbs and mixtures have been proven to have an effect and the pharmaceutical companies usually take advantage of this, but because of its largely unregulated nature and usually improperly analysed processes, alternative medicine can actually cause damage. - jub0r, on 08/09/2008, -0/+3I think he's saying that you don't need medicine to cure scurvy. The fact that vitamin C boost immunity and fights off scurvy doesn't have anything to do with homeopathy, however. If you dilute lemon juice down 30,000X and it still cures scurvy then we'd be talking about homeopathy.
- TheCatsPants, on 08/13/2008, -0/+3Actually, shouldn't we all be super-fit if homeopathy were true and water was full of the memories of poisons etc. ?
- jub0r, on 08/09/2008, -0/+2That would be creepy if homeopathy was true. Just think of all the ***** that has been in the water we drink every day. Most water is recycled, whether it is through the sewage treatment plant or through the clouds. If water somehow memorized what substances it had diluted in the past, we'd all be pretty sick.
- joka86, on 08/07/2008, -0/+1I hate that Head On commercial and refuse to buy their products based on that.
- joka86, on 08/08/2008, -0/+1That only adds to the fact.
- arjie, on 08/09/2008, -0/+1Ah, Minarchian, this arises from a misunderstanding. For most people when you say 'medicine', you're talking about the science of healing. This is why you need to be specific.
I'd be on the same side as you about not believing that medication is necessary for all illnesses. In fact, I mentioned as much above. No need to get all violent. - inactive, on 08/07/2008, -1/+1there are a lot of quacks out there...one of my clients is a Chiropractor who recommends natural supplements instead of pharmaceutical drugs, and he is the best!..i did a lot of commercial tile work before i became a network admin and i messed up my back pretty good...i was laid up up for a year and a half, and i was told that the only fix was to put a titanium cage in my lower back...i said no way!...after 6 months with this guy i was back on my feet again, and have been pretty much pain free ever since...if i do something i shouldn't, and hurt my back, he can put me back in shape with a couple of treatments and herbal supplements...
- Minarchian, on 08/09/2008, -2/+1Every one of you people are ***** clueless.
I am saying that Homeopathy is not really science. On that, I am agreeing with you nimrods.
I am also saying that your precious love affair with pharma is mostly ***** too.
But go ahead with your petty dogmas. Just don't expect everyone to buy into it. - Minarchian, on 08/08/2008, -6/+2Yes only medicine can cure disease.
Like Scurvy.
To say that only medicine can treat ailments is just as ignorant as saying homeopathy can cure stupidity.
Buried as inaccurate. - Minarchian, on 08/08/2008, -5/+1I'm not arguing the fact that homeopathic "medicine" is fraudulent.
I'm only making the case that "medicine" is not the only way to cure disease and treat ailments.
Scurvy was just the easiest example I could come up with.
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